Cyborg16
Jul 24 2004, 03:28 PM
The main mwsource.com page isn't loading correctly in mozilla firefox (but it works fine in IE). I get three or four bars down the left (instead of a single menu sidebar), although only the menu on the left one. Clicking on a menu command just reloads the page without doing anything. The right-had side bar is doubled too, with the logon box in the middle (across a divider).
Don't know why it happened, I think I've loaded the page properly before in firefox... delete this if it's just my browser on this occasion.
EDIT: The forums work fine. No problems HERE.
Adras
Jul 25 2004, 04:20 PM
Thats because nto every web site is made for other internet browsers. Most, as might have been done with Morrowind Source, are made for Microsoft Internet Explorer *cough*Microsoftsucks*cough* so they wont load well or at all with any others. Sometimes its because you dont have Java, but I dont know exactly how to install it to a different browser. Anyways, if you download Opera (another internet browser) it gives you the choice to download Java into it or not. If you do, it works for any site that works for IE... But if you dont want to dload Opera, then just download Java.
Cyborg16
Jul 25 2004, 06:04 PM
Thanks for the advice, but I have Java.
Actually, I just re-enabled some javascript possibilities I disabled when I started using firefox, and I can now change between menu items, but I still get four left bars and two right bars. Surely the browser's designed to open web pages, rather than the web page designed for a particular browser (so why the difference with different browsers, unless they don't work properly?).
Dark0ne
Jul 25 2004, 09:16 PM
Really don't understand what the problem is with IE...I have a friend who won't use it just because its Microsoft. Sounds pathetic to me that software which is perfectly good at its job is shunned cause it's made by a money grabbing corporation....never mind.
Anyway, the site works on IE...its just that some browsers aren't completely compatible with code which works on IE...I don't know why and haven't enquired into why this is...just some browsers don't accept some forms of HTML and PHP code which they should.
Slaiv
Jul 25 2004, 09:36 PM
| QUOTE (Adras @ Jul 25 2004, 11:20 AM) |
| *cough*Microsoftsucks*cough* |
*Cough*Ihateyou*Cough*
Seriously, why does everyone hate them? Just because they're rich? They have a monopoly? Well guess what:
THERE'S A REASON WHY THEY HAVE A MONOPOLY AND SO MUCH MONEY.
InstInct
Jul 25 2004, 09:54 PM
For all of you who hate Microsoft, consider this:
What if there wasn't a monopoly, what if there were 17 much used operating systems, 25 types of browsers, 34 programs for text typing etc. Imagine what compatibility-issues that would have. Seriously, i think the monopoly has been a very good thing for the PC industry.
Adras
Jul 25 2004, 11:43 PM
Ok, let me put it this way: I just dont like Internet Explorer. The rest of the programs are pretty good. I dont use all of them, but Word is the main one I use. This is a good test site to see if your Internet Browser is working correctly.
http://rpgplanet.com/morrowind/thedailyvivec/ It works for IE and Opera, but I dont think it does for Mozilla (not sure about Firefox).
So turning the Javascript stuff on worked for the most part then?
*Edit*
The background on the page should have a nice texture to it. Its laid out as a news paper, and on the actual paper it the texturing. The outside of it it just white. Thats how it SHOULD look.
Marxist ßastard
Jul 26 2004, 01:33 AM
IE is incredibly insecure. That's all that needs to be said on that topic.
As for Microsoft's monopoly, I have no doubt that they have a monopoly because of their superior products -- not because of shady dealings.
As for a monopoly being good for the industry, I won't even merit that with sarcasm. Having enough people using browsers that yield similar enough results when given a variety of content is one thing, but having everyone use the exact same browser is different entirely, and the driving force between a very good amount of the malware out there.
Peregrine
Jul 26 2004, 01:33 AM
| QUOTE (Dark0ne @ Jul 25 2004, 05:16 PM) |
| Really don't understand what the problem is with IE...I have a friend who won't use it just because its Microsoft. Sounds pathetic to me that software which is perfectly good at its job is shunned cause it's made by a money grabbing corporation....never mind. |
Because it isn't good at its job at all. Even with careful downloading, IE is FAR more vulnerable to spyware and security problems. On my computer IE ended up so badly fried by it that it was completely unuseable. Switched to Mozilla and not a single problem. And honestly, the compatability issue isn't one. There aren't all that many sites that don't work well with non-IE browsers.
And then of course there's the features IE doesn't have.....
Adras, the site works fine for me, exactly as you said it should.
Slaiv
Jul 26 2004, 02:57 AM
I use IE6.x and Opera 7.xx. Just to let you all know.
UberBender
Jul 26 2004, 03:04 AM
| QUOTE (Adras @ Jul 25 2004, 07:43 PM) |
| This is a good test site to see if your Internet Browser is working correctly. http://rpgplanet.com/morrowind/thedailyvivec/ It works for IE and Opera, but I dont think it does for Mozilla (not sure about Firefox) |
I use Mozilla and that page works fine.
Dark0ne
Jul 26 2004, 09:17 AM
| QUOTE |
| Because it isn't good at its job at all. Even with careful downloading, IE is FAR more vulnerable to spyware and security problems. |
Maybe its the fact that I'm behind a proxy, or the fact I have two fire walls and 2 virus scanners...but I haven't been hit by spyware or adware for atleast 6 months now...its all about intelligent browsing, not intelligent browsers.
Adras
Jul 26 2004, 02:56 PM
Good to hear that it works.
And my IE worked fine, except for the pop-ups, which I didnt like. But I just downloaded I think the Dogpile Toolbar and it worked great. The fact is that I just dont like IE any more because other Internet Browsers have different and sometimes more options to offer. I always use Opera, unless it isnt working for some reason (did that once to me) the I tried Firefox, but I still like Opera above all others. One of the main reasons is that you can make it so pop-ups never come up, or they come up at your will (meaning, they will pop up if you click on them. In Yahoo! Games, you need this enabled), or you can have them come up whenever they feel like saying hello. But I use the second option. Also, instead of having several pages open and they are taking up room on your task bar, they open IN the browser. I know Firefox does this too.
Thats why I like Opera, but I really do think that they should make Internet Browsers compatible for every thing. Opera (if you have Java installed) works just fine. I've never gotton a web site I couldnt read. And of course, IE works for everything.
And UberBender, the only reason I said that is because my dad's wasnt working with it and he got pretty ticked off. But you must have a plugin or something enabled that he doesnt.
Dark0ne
Jul 26 2004, 04:00 PM
I couldn't get used to the tabs inside the browser...so used to alt+tabbing my IE windows that it took an extra 2 seconds to (1) navigate to the tab and (2) remove the tab when done. Thats 4 secs I just don't have
Adras
Jul 26 2004, 09:11 PM
Are you picking on me, Dark0ne?
Well I dunno. If the front page wont work with any of the suggestions said, just live with it =o)
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