Full Version: what is the best armor?
I like stahlrim armor because its pretty strong not to heavy but most of all its free.
I like to combine power with good looks so i use:
Adamantium Helm
Ebony Mail (that i've modded to look like dragonbone cuirass, the mail itself looks crappy)
Daedric pauldrons
Fists of randagulf
Her Hand's greaves
Adamantium boots
Eleidon's ward
The common blue skirt that many imperial guards wear.
And enchantments on everything, so that everything has that glowing look.
And when u've got medium and heavy armor skills at 100 this set gives you a cool armor rating of 333 (if everything is repaired of course)
Adamantium Helm
Ebony Mail (that i've modded to look like dragonbone cuirass, the mail itself looks crappy)
Daedric pauldrons
Fists of randagulf
Her Hand's greaves
Adamantium boots
Eleidon's ward
The common blue skirt that many imperial guards wear.
And enchantments on everything, so that everything has that glowing look.
And when u've got medium and heavy armor skills at 100 this set gives you a cool armor rating of 333 (if everything is repaired of course)
| QUOTE (InstInct @ Jul 22 2004, 07:55 AM) |
| I like to combine power with good looks so i use: Adamantium Helm Ebony Mail (that i've modded to look like dragonbone cuirass, the mail itself looks crappy) Daedric pauldrons Fists of randagulf Her Hand's greaves Adamantium boots Eleidon's ward The common blue skirt that many imperial guards wear. And enchantments on everything, so that everything has that glowing look. And when u've got medium and heavy armor skills at 100 this set gives you a cool armor rating of 333 (if everything is repaired of course) |
I personally like to use this setup:
Helm of Orion Bearclaw
Ebony mail
Deadric pauldrons
Deadric Greaves
Deadric Boots
Both fists of Rangulf
Eleidon's Ward
Belt of the horator
And some others but I dont think they are worth mentioning. All have enchantments. I forget the exact armor rateing that it gives but believe is as much as or more than 333.
The Best light armor setup i know of is constant effect bound armor.
I have absolutely no idea what meduim is other than the ebony mail.
Hope this helps.
P.S. InstInct, why her hand grieves?
Personally, I do not make very many fighters for the reason that, they can't jump very far/high. I know its alittle crazy to not make killing machines cause they are a tad bit slower but I really like being able to move easily and fast. So what usually works for me is light armour. Any kind will do. looking good is always important so I usually go with whatever looks good on the character. for example, when my kajiit file is in Solstiem(sp?) i wear snow bear armour and a helm i found that does CE detect creature 150 ft. Camoflauged(i really dont care for that word...) and i can still move.
Common cloth shirt and skirt. Who needs armor when you're a good theif/assassin?
Doesnt everybody need good armor. I have to say that im a fan of heavy armor. I dont know why i like heavy armor, but i do. People who worry about the weight dont seem to notice that they can always enchant things for feather and jump. I tend to wear whatever suits my characters when they get a high enough level, but in the early levels i just go with the best i can get. Isnt that what one should do?
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| Doesnt everybody need good armor. |
I'll ask again... why do you need armor when you never get hit?
"I'll ask again... why do you need armor when you never get hit?" - Peregrine, the post before this.
Amen. if i dont use light armour on my thief, I dont need armour! I can sneak in front of peoples faces anyway...
Amen. if i dont use light armour on my thief, I dont need armour! I can sneak in front of peoples faces anyway...
Rock on. You armored people can keep your wall of security and protection. Unarmored may not give you that insane AR, but if your character is an agile stealth-user, you don't need to worry much. (I swear if someone chimes in with that "it doesn't matter when you're level 100" crap, I'm gonna have an aneurism) Also not having armor allows much faster running, higher jumping, a longer-lasting fatigue bar, and in my opinion, a different and more interesting character. Everyone seems to love decking their character out in ebony, daedric, adamantium, daedric, and daedric. How about no armor?
My favourite armor would have to be light armor, easiest to wear, doesn't put a lot of weight on your shoulders Perfect (Glass Armor is the best)
im a thief and i have glass. glass all the way! woo! but anyways i have a mod that adds cloaks and capes o my guy has this big black cloak and cape thats glowing blue and up my security by like 20 sneak by 20 and agility by like 30 plus some other little nice things im also only a lvl 4 on day 31 or 32 cuz i couldnt pay my 2000$ fine and had to go to jail for 37 days 
There is a mod somewhere that gives a SANCTUARY bonus effect when according to how much armor you are wearing. The less armor you wear, the higher the effect, and the less often you get hit. I haven't tried it extensively, but it makes sense... if one is used to fighting without armor, he doesn't - as the game puts it - withstand damage better if he is unarmored than if he is wearing plate, but rather he is much more agile and therefore he doesn't get hit as easily 
With this plugin, I'd rather go unarmored than wear armor. More classy
With this plugin, I'd rather go unarmored than wear armor. More classy
my two favorate kinds of armor are the Royal Gaurd Armor because it looks cool and is strong but not really heavy and the dark brotherhood armor because it looks really cool on my dunmer char, it is ,I beleive, the lightest armor and it is strong but the thing is, it isn't very durable so you will find yourself frequently repairing it 
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| There is a mod somewhere that gives a SANCTUARY bonus effect when according to how much armor you are wearing. The less armor you wear, the higher the effect, and the less often you get hit. I haven't tried it extensively, but it makes sense... if one is used to fighting without armor, he doesn't - as the game puts it - withstand damage better if he is unarmored than if he is wearing plate, but rather he is much more agile and therefore he doesn't get hit as easily |
It's called the Dodging mod, by this guy named Horatio. Go to TheLys's mod page (right here). It's really awesome. The sanctuary effect is not only dependent on how much armor you wear, but also how high your unarmored skill is compared to other armor skills. According to Horatio: "Anyway, in order to improve this rather unbalanced situation, this mod adds a sanctuary ability to the character based on their unarmored skill. The maximum sanctuary you can get is 50 - at 100 unarmored. Unarmored must be at least twice as high as any of your other armor skills in order to work. So no running around in daedric while reaping the sanctuary bonus."
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| With this plugin, I'd rather go unarmored than wear armor. More classy |
You rock.
EDIT:
I've always been a firm believer in unarmored combat, as I have stated many times before. Think about it. A lot depends on your fatigue bar, right? With zero fatigue, your spell casting and weapon proficiency are greatly depleted. It's all about keeping it up. When not carrying armor, running, jumping, and swimming are now much more efficient. Not only do you run and swim faster and jump higher, your fatigue bar has a longer lifetime because it decreases much slower. Even if you have a nord whose favorite attribute is endurance, wearing heavy or medium armor will still really cut down into fatigue, even if there are big reserves of it. The only person to whom I would not recommend unarmored to is beginners, because what kind of experienced Morrowind player would want to make the game even easier? I bet most of the veteran players on this site had there first character decked out in the most extravagant items, armor, weapons, and carried around every single priceless and unique item they could get their hands on. The first instinct is to make your character a god. I don't know about you guys, but I'm past that phase. Plus, as Maquissar said, it's 'classy.' It's different. Unique. Anyways I'm done ranting this time. Promise.
i usually wear heavy armor coz i like em most and i mostly only make fighters, though i have a Breton Mage who wears light armor but i sometimes i also want to make cool looks with armor, about which armor stuff should fit to some, to look more cooler 
sorry to contradict all of you...but IMHO, the best armor is something I created
The Sneak Ring (Chameleon 100% for 20 sec, charge 400)
Edit: Exquisite Ring, Golden Saint Soul...Cost prolly about 35000, but I got too many Daedric and Ebony weapons anyway...sold them after to get my money back
The Sneak Ring (Chameleon 100% for 20 sec, charge 400)
Edit: Exquisite Ring, Golden Saint Soul...Cost prolly about 35000, but I got too many Daedric and Ebony weapons anyway...sold them after to get my money back
Hmmm... Well if you made it in game that's one thing, but if you made it in the construction set, I should reach through my ethernet line and slap you.
If you made it in-game, what item exactly did you enchant? How much did it cost?
And yes, it is the best armor . . . until the charge runs out. And it takes a while to recharge 400 points (without soulgems).
If you made it in-game, what item exactly did you enchant? How much did it cost?
And yes, it is the best armor . . . until the charge runs out. And it takes a while to recharge 400 points (without soulgems).
i like glass, indoril and ebony easy when you have maxed out your light/medium/heavy armor skills
I just remembered that for light armor you can use bound items... Summon a bound item, equip an item of the same general type by draging it to your portrait. This will unequip the bound item, now drop it and wait for the bound item spell effect to go away. You now have a permanent bound item at no cost! hope this helps for light armor people!
| QUOTE (Peregrine @ Jul 25 2004, 02:51 AM) | ||
I'll ask again... why do you need armor when you never get hit? |
peregrine do you REALLY know what you are talking about even if you have like 200 agility you are still going to get hit plenty of times.
Do I detect the first spark of a few flames here?
Peregrine always knows what he is talking about.
And he is quite right.
Other people may not want to play it that way but it is still perfectly valid!
Peregrine always knows what he is talking about.
And he is quite right.
Other people may not want to play it that way but it is still perfectly valid!
if your having like 800 hp or something and restore health 10 ft constant effect, then you kinda don't need much armor. i usually only can get serious hitted by al her hands attacking same time, or all the guards and that in the royal palace throne place.
I use... arkaines valor .
No... for users people like me who hate being bothered to fight (Thief, remember?), and generally weak people, you can CE effect an Exquisite Ring with Invisibillity. you just have to re-equip it after you kill something... After that, armor really doesnt matter. You can just where netch leather, for all I care.
.No... for users people like me who hate being bothered to fight (Thief, remember?), and generally weak people, you can CE effect an Exquisite Ring with Invisibillity. you just have to re-equip it after you kill something... After that, armor really doesnt matter. You can just where netch leather, for all I care.
i enchanted my clothes with levitate CE so if i get into a fight i just fly into the sky and bomb them with magic and if i need to rest or sleep i just take my clothes off
P.S. it's really fun to float in the air and summon tons of monsters then enjoy the show as the guards of whatever town try to take them on
P.S. it's really fun to float in the air and summon tons of monsters then enjoy the show as the guards of whatever town try to take them on
Well sadly fellas, this is about armor, not enchanted items. So, what armor type do you use and why? If any?
| QUOTE (the_ragnarok702 @ Jul 28 2004, 11:18 PM) |
| peregrine do you REALLY know what you are talking about even if you have like 200 agility you are still going to get hit plenty of times. |
1) Dodging attacks is easy, especially with a spear or ranged weapon. Learn to hit and run, and you'll live a lot longer.
2) High sneak skill + 1% CE chameleon = never get seen. If you can't be seen, even if the first critical hit doesn't kill them, all they can do is run blindly while you finish the job. Tap the sneak key and they suddenly lose sight of you.
Daedric or ebony aren't too bad...IF you have plenty of (weightless homemade) feather potions. Both are decently enchantable, too...got a Feather 12 CE on a 15 lb. daedric gauntlet , but that's the only piece I got so far
, but that's the only piece I got so far
| QUOTE (Peregrine @ Jul 30 2004, 06:21 AM) | ||
1) Dodging attacks is easy, especially with a spear or ranged weapon. Learn to hit and run, and you'll live a lot longer. 2) High sneak skill + 1% CE chameleon = never get seen. If you can't be seen, even if the first critical hit doesn't kill them, all they can do is run blindly while you finish the job. Tap the sneak key and they suddenly lose sight of you. |
so you are suggesting us to fight like some coward
| QUOTE (the_ragnarok702 @ Jul 30 2004, 03:57 PM) | ||||
so you are suggesting us to fight like some coward |
No, he's suggesting us to fight smarter, like a thief. This all works better if you have sanctuary, too.
| QUOTE (the_ragnarok702 @ Jul 30 2004, 05:57 PM) | ||||
so you are suggesting us to fight like some coward |
Exactly. Of course if you want to run straight into every fight and embrace the afterlife, that's your right....
i think it's more of a preference thing. some people like to play the tank and others the brain. i think if everyone walked around as an armorless mage or thief then we'd all have the same story. same thing goes for being a godlike warrior. and then there's your balanced types that want to be "usable" in all areas.
personally i'm a tank:
1.both fists of randagulf
2.daedric grieves
3.daedric boots
4.helm of orin bearclaw (sometimes i wear the mask of whoever, the one that ups your charm)
5.dragonbone cuirass
6.feather robe (to lighten my load)
not sure which pauldrons i use though
i don't use any plugins though. i don't want to taint the purity of my character
personally i'm a tank:
1.both fists of randagulf
2.daedric grieves
3.daedric boots
4.helm of orin bearclaw (sometimes i wear the mask of whoever, the one that ups your charm)
5.dragonbone cuirass
6.feather robe (to lighten my load)
not sure which pauldrons i use though
i don't use any plugins though. i don't want to taint the purity of my character
| QUOTE (Peregrine @ Jul 30 2004, 11:36 PM) | ||||||
Exactly. Of course if you want to run straight into every fight and embrace the afterlife, that's your right.... |
not a single npc in morrowind could beat me i dont need cowardly tactics (not meaning to brag)
| QUOTE (the_ragnarok702 @ Jul 30 2004, 08:00 PM) |
| not a single npc in morrowind could beat me i dont need cowardly tactics (not meaning to brag) |
what about a group of three/four fighters and three/four archers? (such as the kind found in the Bloodmoon expansion)
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| not a single npc in morrowind could beat me i dont need cowardly tactics (not meaning to brag) |
You just did I'm afraid. If it is assumed that Peregrine's stealth character and your fighting character are the same level, then not a single npc could beat Peregrine's character either.
Now let's say your character isn't the god you make him out to be. There are creatures that the theif could take out with one critical hit from chameleon sneaking, the fighter would still be hacking away, because the creature saw him coming and ran up to meet his attack. All in all, I'd still say they are pretty equal characters, but the tactics of a theif are more fun and much more interesting to play than just running up and attacking.
this is slightly off topic, but it seems somewhat aproprate here.
What does bound armor fall under, it is deadric so its heavy, but it weighs nothing so is it light, or because its nothing is it unarmored?
i was told it falls under all, depending on wich you use but it seems hard to beleive.
and no i'm not a n00b, just never worked with conjeration before.
What does bound armor fall under, it is deadric so its heavy, but it weighs nothing so is it light, or because its nothing is it unarmored?
i was told it falls under all, depending on wich you use but it seems hard to beleive.
and no i'm not a n00b, just never worked with conjeration before.
| QUOTE (the_ragnarok702 @ Jul 30 2004, 08:00 PM) | ||||||||
not a single npc in morrowind could beat me i dont need cowardly tactics (not meaning to brag) |
ragnarok, dont even get me started on hammering you again. (brag, lol) its not like ur the only one with a level 300 uber dude in here.
*refrains, for the moment, from lyrically owning tha rag*
anyway, bound armor doesnt fall under any categories because your ARE wearing armor, it IS weightless, and no matter what your hvy/med/lYt armor rating they always are worth 80 armor points (at least in my experiences anyway.)
back on topic, i always admired the light armor. all glass except for Cuirass of Saviors Hide and Boots of the Apostle. (there may be other light super-armors i missed.)
i just gotten some nice deadric armor i enchanted them with feather so i can still carry some heavy dwarven claymores 
but here is the problem
i cant find a helm does any one know to find a helm besides todd test ?
but here is the problemi cant find a helm does any one know to find a helm besides todd test ?
Oh man, look people. Anyone who is looking for daedric anything, why don't you either run a search on the forums, or, more effectively, run a search on google or some other search engine. There are several sites with info on how to find every piece of daedric/glass/ebony/anything in the game.
Hey people, how about everyone calming down! Agree to disagree, or something along those lines. Look at it this way, during the game you will find certain times when stealth and agility will attain a certain goal, or perhaps help you out of a tight spot. Likewise, occasionally brute force and blood shed will prove the most taciturn approach. Everyone has their own way of playing this game, or to some of us, living our lives through this game It isn't fair or at all sane to attack other players' grand designs for dominating the world... I mean freeing the world from the false gods, he he... Show respect for your fellow gamers' P.O.V's, just in case they prove you wrong! Thanks, and happy gaming to you all.
It isn't fair or at all sane to attack other players' grand designs for dominating the world... I mean freeing the world from the false gods, he he... Show respect for your fellow gamers' P.O.V's, just in case they prove you wrong! Thanks, and happy gaming to you all.
I quite agree Maximus. One of the pleasures of MW is the amount of choice it gives you. One way of playing is not BETTER than another, just different. And if you only ever play one way you miss out on much of the fun, especially at the beginning of the game when differences matter. Later on, all characters tend to become similar.
Nobody on this forum should care how another person plays.
Re Daedric Armour, only very recently did Switch post the link to UESP for just this purpose. Do a search. BTW the Daedric Helms all have names; Faces of Terror, Inspiration and War and the Masque of Clavicus Vile.
Nobody on this forum should care how another person plays.
Re Daedric Armour, only very recently did Switch post the link to UESP for just this purpose. Do a search. BTW the Daedric Helms all have names; Faces of Terror, Inspiration and War and the Masque of Clavicus Vile.
oh no no i would never conflict with anyone about the armor they wear. its just that pretty much every time ragnarok steps into a thread he contradicts anything anyone says because he spent months building a lvl 300 player and thinks hes on a different plane of rules and physics than everyone else. most people like to start many characters and have them represent different themes. so the average player, given three (eh...) different characters will probobly experiance all the armor types before they are done with the game. i know i have.
anyway, back on topic everyone...
anyway, back on topic everyone...
Okay then, back on topic. As for light armour, glass armour would have to be the best. aesthetically and functionally. Indoril armour is also quite good, except for the fact that the ordinators don't like you wearing it. Medium? Orcish armour is a nice, well balanced piece. Duke's guard and silver pieces are definitely the best imperial styles. Finally, heavy. Ebony and deadric, both very weighty and very expensive, but offer the best protection. Then there are the many rare and enchanted pieces which are all covered in the corprus dwarfe's nice book
My last setup was the helm of Oreyn Bearclaw, glass pauldrons, fists of Randagalf(sp), dragonbone cuirass, glass greaves, boots of the apostle. Nice armour value, low weight. Great for carrying off all that loot while still hacking apart blighted monstrosities
My last setup was the helm of Oreyn Bearclaw, glass pauldrons, fists of Randagalf(sp), dragonbone cuirass, glass greaves, boots of the apostle. Nice armour value, low weight. Great for carrying off all that loot while still hacking apart blighted monstrosities
Actually, for those of you that have bloodmoon, go for Nordic silver mail! It has the most massive AR rating of any medium armors (I'm pretty sure of this but I could be mistaken). Or royal guard armor. Do you get in trouble for wearing royal guard armor? Also adamantium.
Tribunal and Bloodmoon have done a good job with providing the medium armor wearer some much better options, which the original Morrowind really failed at. I was getting tired of everyone just going to heavy armor cause it eventually gave you a sky-rocketing AR with daedric and stuff.
Sometimes I wish that characters weren't allowed to max out all of their stats and become a jack-of-all-trades uber-character. Sometimes I think about how gameplay would be if being really really good at light armor would decrease how fast you can train and how good you can get in heavy armor. Or something. Or maybe it can be more attribute-oriented. A lot of strength means that you are limited in agility. Have you guys ever thought of that?
Tribunal and Bloodmoon have done a good job with providing the medium armor wearer some much better options, which the original Morrowind really failed at. I was getting tired of everyone just going to heavy armor cause it eventually gave you a sky-rocketing AR with daedric and stuff.
Sometimes I wish that characters weren't allowed to max out all of their stats and become a jack-of-all-trades uber-character. Sometimes I think about how gameplay would be if being really really good at light armor would decrease how fast you can train and how good you can get in heavy armor. Or something. Or maybe it can be more attribute-oriented. A lot of strength means that you are limited in agility. Have you guys ever thought of that?
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| Sometimes I think about how gameplay would be if being really really good at light armor would decrease how fast you can train and how good you can get in heavy armor |
it does tick me when i see someone post about wearing glass and ebony, or you know just severely mix matched armor types simultaneously. when really all you need is to be good at one type and leave your other maj/min slots for more useful things.
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| Or maybe it can be more attribute-oriented. A lot of strength means that you are limited in agility |
that especially struck me when i found out that bonemold is actually better than steel, given the skills are the same.
also, some of the weight/AR ratios are way off. if someone is good in light armor, say, they would automaticly out the gate go for Chitin, because it is the lightest and most powerful armor they can get so soon. somethings wrong when you still cant choose mobility over AR even within the same armor type. maybe they'll fix this in MEmod, but w/e...
Sorry, I forgot to mention. I was only alluding to morrowind. Not expansions 
NITPICK ALERT! Eiade...AR rating? AR == Armor Rating, right? sorry, had to say it.
anyhoo, the best armor would probably be whatever has the highest enchantability, not sure what that would be. I know that Daedric Greaves have 7, that's all I remember. I think that shields have a decent capacity, got Fortify Strength 10 CE.
oops...that would be an Imperial Shield
anyhoo, the best armor would probably be whatever has the highest enchantability, not sure what that would be. I know that Daedric Greaves have 7, that's all I remember. I think that shields have a decent capacity, got Fortify Strength 10 CE.
oops...that would be an Imperial Shield
I like a combonation of armor like fur boot so im more quite
| QUOTE (killer of the fallen @ Aug 13 2004, 02:28 PM) |
| I like a combonation of armor like fur boot so im more quite |
lol, boot (singular?). lol, again, quite (quiet?)
w/e welcome to the forums, and thanks for the quick laugh...
lol
| QUOTE (Untouchable1 @ Aug 13 2004, 02:49 PM) | ||
lol, boot (singular?). lol, again, quite (quiet?) |
he said he likes a combination, so..... one fur boot... and one daedric....
it could work
| QUOTE (eviljim @ Aug 13 2004, 05:25 PM) | ||||
he said he likes a combination, so..... one fur boot... and one daedric.... |
mmm. now that sounds like a good idea. balancing half and half armor for weight. but wait, if the fur boots are only worth like 10 AR then wouldnt it just be better to ditch it for the weight because its not like that 10 AR is gonna do anything to your overall defense rating. but w/e youre the trendsetter here. lol
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