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Illuvarin
I very much enjoyed the riddles in "The Hobbit" and so I think its a nice idea for a good ol' trivia.
So here's my riddle:

What has rivers but no water, what has forests but no trees, what has cities but no structures ?

Enjoy cracking your head
neithan
A map ? huh.gif

(sorry, just passing by shiftyph34r.gif )
Illuvarin
QUOTE (neithan @ Jun 22 2004, 02:22 AM)
A map ? huh.gif

(sorry, just passing by shiftyph34r.gif )

Is that your final answer...

CORRECT, it is indeed a map so now its your turn for a riddle.
Celad
He's only passing by, will he return?

(this isn't a riddle, by the way)
neithan
She has, and she knows no riddle. (Hence the "just passing by", I knew I would be asked to tell one, but I couldn't resist finding out if I had the right answer...)

But you seem quite eager for the game to go on, so I humbly ask you to take my turn and suggest a riddle, Celad. wink.gif
Celad
Very well, I will suggest a riddle.

What is:

First step to Failure,
Converse of Confidence,
Cessation of Serenity,
Curtain-Call of Composure?


I've been slightly loose with the definitions (but that's part of the fun, isn't it?)
Celad
Obviously I was a bit too loose with this one, the answer was supposed to be fear.

If anyone else has a riddle they better suggest it because that was the best I could do.
seregmegil
I'll try.

You have 9 balls.

8 of them have the same weight and the last one weights more.

If you ONLY have a balance,, tell me how do you know wich ball is the one that weights more than the others with the minimum uses of the balance.
Morgoth
Actually, I wonder what this thread is doing on the MEMod boards... *moves*
Alexander the Great
Ill take a wack at it.

How did a man end up in the middle of the desert, naked, with a straw in his hand.

Brighid
QUOTE (seregmegil @ Jul 20 2004, 02:52 AM)
I'll try.

You have 9 balls.

8 of them have the same weight and the last one weights more.

If you ONLY have a balance,, tell me how do you know wich ball is the one that weights more than the others with the minimum uses of the balance.

I'll take a stab.

Put 4 on each side of the balance.
Remove 2 from each side. Toss aside the 2 from the higher side.

If the balance is even, you know the heavier ball is one of the two you removed and retained. Toss aside the balls from the balance, and put one of the balls in your hand into each side of the balance. The lower side is the heavier ball.

If the balance is not even, toss aside the balls in your hand, and the balls on the higher side of the balance. Put one of the balls in the lower side of the balance into each side. The lower side is your heavier ball.

That's 3 moves. that's the best I could figure so far.
tyjet3
Here is my favorite riddle ever...

A man is in a room pacing. After about one hour he picks up the phone and dials a number. When the person answers, the man hangs up the phone and goes to sleep...

What happened and why?

Ask yes or no questions only...

I might start another thread cause this kind of like a twenty questions thing...

let me know if i should...
Alexander the Great
He is an insomniac and he called a hypnotist to put him to sleep. Genius.
seregmegil
PLEASE, can this topic follow the same system the trivials have?.

1 - There will we only one riddle to be answered at a time
2 - The one who asks is the one who sais who is correct and why.
3 - The one who aswers correctly (and it's when the point 2 is completed) the riddle asks the next one.

Many thanks ^^.


And it can be done in few movements, bridgid ^^.
Malchik
Maybe put three balls in each side of the balance. If they balance throw them away and keep the remaining three. If they don't simply keep the three from the lower side. Put one ball (of the three) in each side of he balance. Bingo!

Two weighings.
seregmegil
Very good malchik, now it's your turn to ask.
Malchik
I can't say I'm much good at riddles but try this.

A friend comes to you with a problem. He is very devout and wishes to make a pilgrimage from the shrine of dusk at the bottom of Mount Jagganth to the shrine of dawn on top of the mountain. The pilgrimage requires him to leave the shrine of dusk at dawn, spend that night praying at the top at the shrine of dawn and to leave at dawn next day to return to the shrine of dusk before midnight.

There is one narrow path and no other way up or down. To step off the path would pitch you down the mountain to certain death.

The pilgrimage would be no problem except it has one condition. The pilgrim MUST NOT be at the same place on the path at the same time on the way up and on the way down.

What would you advise the friend to do?
seregmegil
He have to wait in the top of the mountain until miday to go down and arrive at midnight.

Is this the correct answer?
Malchik
No, sorry. If you need a hint PM me.
tyjet3
QUOTE
The pilgrimage would be no problem except it has one condition. The pilgrim MUST NOT be at the same place on the path at the same time on the way up and on the way down.


could you clarify this? I don't quite get what you mean...
Malchik
If he is at point A at 11.20 am on the way up on day one, he must not be at point A at 11.20am on the way down on day two. Nor may he be at any point on the path at the same time on the two consecutive days.

Is that clearer?

I'm off now until tomorrow.

A pencil and paper may help.
seregmegil
I don't know, what is the answer?
Malchik
Your advice? It is impossible to complete the pilgrimage under those conditions, at some point on both days you have to be at the same place at the same time. If you need proof, PM me.

Here's a simpler and well known one.

A and B are friends. One always tells lies and the other always tells the truth but you do not know which is which. How can you phrase a question so that you will always be able to work out the truth?
Chunky_Moose
You ask them both why they always lie. The one that always tells the truth will say that they never lie while the one that always lies will tell you a false answer such as 'because the sky is blue'.
Malchik
The one who always lies will tell you he never lies. The one who always tells you the truth will tell you he never lies. With the correct question you only need to ask one of them and will always get the same answer.

Suppose, for the sake of argument ,you are afraid your food has been drugged but are very hungry. What question can you ask either of them that will give you enough information to tell if it is safe to eat the food or not?
Chunky_Moose
I think I've got it this time lol.

You ask them:

'Am I hungry?'

The one who tells the truth will truthfully say that he doesn't know. The one who lies doesn't know either but he has to lie so he'll say either yes or no.
Malchik
Good point you have there. What does a liar say when he does not know the truth? He cannot say you are or you are not hungry because he may accidentally tell the truth. A bonus point for that.

It is not the answer because I forgot to add all of the restrictions - my fault. (I did say I was not very good with riddles.) I should have added that you may ask only one question and of only one of them.

Sorry about that but keep trying, you will surely get there soon!



Maquissar
Ask A: "If I were to ask B who is the liar, what would he answer?"

Both the liar and the honest guy would say they tell the truth, if directly asked.
If A answers that B would answer that A is the liar, then A is the one who tells the truth.
If A answers that B would admit that he is a liar, then A is the one who lies.
Hogosha Ookami
ask them to point to themselves, the one who points to himself is the truth teller, the one who points to anyone else is the liar.
Malchik
I think you are there M, although your explanation is not quite clear. You are right in saying you have to ask one what the other would say. The answer is always a lie.

E.g. A lies, B tells the truth. Ask A what B would say: answer, a lie, 'B is the liar'.
Ask B what A would say: he would truthfully report A's lie 'B is a liar'. Thus you will know which one tells the truth. Because the statement is a lie, B tells the truth.

This riddle is commonly met in the room with two guards and two doors one leading to certain death and one leading to freedom. Ask either guard which the other would say goes to freedom and take the opposite route.

You have drugged food. If you ask the liar what the truthteller would say, you end up with a lie 'the food is fine'. If you ask the truthteller what the liar would say you get the lie 'the food is fine'. Whatever the answer, do the opposite.

Now it's your turn to set a riddle!
Maquissar
Oh my. I've always sucked at riddling. Oh well...

There is a closed door, that, of course, leads to a room. Just imagine your average room, your bedroom perhaps, it'll do. For some strange reason, I had a vision of a tiny cell with no furniture except a table and two wooden chairs and a metal door, but I have a sick mind smile.gif

However, there are three switches outside of this room. ONE of them turns the light on inside the room, the other two do nothing. You have to ascertain which of these switches is the one that turns the light on.

You can flick each switch only once.
When you are ready, you can enter the room, just know that once you are in you
can't come out again unless you have the solution.
No peeking through keyholes - from outside the room, there is no way to know if the light is turned on or off.
Alexander the Great
If only one switch works then you switch all three of them. The two that dont work wont do anything and therefor not matter, but the switch that works will be on. Simple really, or am i just not getting the question?
Maquissar
You don't need to turn the light on inside the room. You need to know exactly WHICH switch turns the light on inside the room.
tyjet3
Got it...

Turn on the first switch and wait about 2 mins,

Now turn off the first switch and turn on the second switch then walk in,

Find the light bulb and feel it...

-If it is on Switch 2 is the correct switch
-If it is off and cold Switch 3 is the correct switch
-If it is off and warm Swich 1 is the correct switch
Maquissar
Good answer. But you shouldn't be able to turn it back off, I think. However, it's the correct solution, technically... you just:
turn the first switch on, wait a few minutes,
turn the second switch on and enter.

If the light is off, it's the third switch.
If the light is on and warm, it's the first switch.
If the light is on and cold, it's the second switch.

Now it's your turn to ask a riddle smile.gif
tyjet3
Here is my favorite riddle ever...

It is 2:00am and a man is in a room pacing. After about half an hour he picks up the phone and dials a number. When a person answers, the man hangs up the phone and goes to sleep...

Explain everything that happened?

Ask yes or no questions only, I'm keep track of them each post...

If it gets hard I'll give hints.
Chunky_Moose
Is the man calling the emergency services?
tyjet3
It is 2:00am and a man is in a room pacing. After about half an hour he picks up the phone and dials a number. When a person answers, the man hangs up the phone and goes to sleep...

QUOTE
Is the man calling the emergency services?


no
Hir_Nesta
is he afraid of something?
seregmegil
He can't sleep, and he is a Hypnotizer.
Then he save in his autoPhoneAnswerer (make up your words XD) a message to make sleep.
Then, he phones himself to hear the message and he falls sleeping.

tongue.gif
tyjet3
It is 2:00am and a man is in a room pacing. After about half an hour he picks up the phone and dials a number. When a person answers, the man hangs up the phone and goes to sleep...

-Is the man calling the emergency services? no

-is he afraid of something? no

QUOTE
He can't sleep, and he is a Hypnotizer.
Then he save in his autoPhoneAnswerer (make up your words XD) a message to make sleep.
Then, he phones himself to hear the message and he falls sleeping.


no
Hir_Nesta
Did he knew the number he was calling?
Did he thought about something?
Did he thought about the number?
Did he thought about the person who answered the call?
tyjet3
QUOTE
Did he knew the number he was calling?
Did he thought about something?
Did he thought about the number?
Did he thought about the person who answered the call?


I take your english isn't very good so i will answer by what I thought the question was-

-Did he know the number? yes

-Did he think about something? yes

-Did he think about the number? yes (seems logical, he did dial the number)

-Did he think about the person who answered the call? yes

--Good questions, just try and watch the grammar.--

Ok here is a the riddle and an update on the answered questions all together for you all-

............................

It is 2:00am and a man is in a room pacing. After about half an hour he picks up the phone and dials a number. When a person answers, the man hangs up the phone and goes to sleep...

-Is the man calling the emergency services? no

-Is he afraid of something? no

-Did he know the number? yes

-Did he think about something? yes

-Did he think about the number? yes (seems logical, he did dial the number)

-Did he think about the person who answered the call? yes
Hir_Nesta
whow sorry 'bout the grammar thing...
actually i'm quite good in english...
i dunno what hit me when i wrote that questions.

So is it important to know what person he phoned?
Did the person say something to the man?

I think he had to call the person as soon as something happened.

maybe the men wanted to know if he could guess how long half an hour is ^^
jokin'
Malchik
Is the man worried about something he may or may not have done/forgotten to do?
tyjet3
It is 2:00am and a man is in a room pacing. After about half an hour he picks up the phone and dials a number. When a person answers, the man hangs up the phone and goes to sleep...

-Is the man calling the emergency services? no

-Is he afraid of something? no

-Did he know the number? yes

-Did he think about something? yes

-Did he think about the number? yes (seems logical, he did dial the number)

-Did he think about the person who answered the call? yes

-So is it important to know what person he phoned? yes

-Did the person say something to the man? yes (hint: the person on the phone simply said, "hello?"... The man said nothing, just hanged up...)

-I think he had to call the person as soon as something happened. close... (hint: he called the man because something was happening...)

-Is the man worried about something he may or may not have done/forgotten to do? no

-----
Questions to ask...

-Figure out where the man is...
-Figure out why he called this particular person...
-Figure out why he couldn't sleep before he called the person...
Hir_Nesta
The man....is he @ home?

Ist this person a relative? (mum, dad, son, etc...)

QUOTE
-I think he had to call the person as soon as something happened. close... (hint: he called the man because something was happening...)


Was something happening outside of the room (like weatherchange, starts show up, moon goes down)?
tyjet3
It is 2:00am and a man is in a room pacing. After about half an hour he picks up the phone and dials a number. When a person answers, the man hangs up the phone and goes to sleep...

-Is the man calling the emergency services? no

-Is he afraid of something? no

-Did he know the number? yes

-Did he think about something? yes

-Did he think about the number? yes (seems logical, he did dial the number)

-Did he think about the person who answered the call? yes

-So is it important to know what person he phoned? yes

-Did the person say something to the man? yes (hint: the person on the phone simply said, "hello?"... The man said nothing, just hanged up...)

-I think he had to call the person as soon as something happened. close... (hint: he called the man because something was happening...)

-Is the man worried about something he may or may not have done/forgotten to do? no

-The man....is he @ home? no

-Is this person a relative? (mum, dad, son, etc...) no

-Was something happening outside of the room ? yes (this is why he couldn't sleep...)
Hir_Nesta
Is he in a Official Building (school, hospital, police station)?

Is the man on the other line a good friend?

Outside: ist it raining heavily? (storm)

Has the event outside anything to do with the call? or was he just awake because of that?
tyjet3
Is he in a Official Building (school, hospital, police station)? no

Is the man on the other line a good friend? no

Outside: ist it raining heavily? (storm) no

Has the event outside (not really outside....) anything to do with the call? yes

was he just awake because of that (the event)? yes
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