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DasMagi
Can anyone help me? I have installed Oblivion with mods and I seem to have some problems that I have never encountered before. Problem 1) When I try to open a Chest, Box or anything that could be holding items, a hand print is shown on the item and I can not move. Problem 2) When I try to go through some gates the game crashes. Problem 3) When I exit the game I get an error saying that the game has stopped responding. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
bben46
Problems 2 & 2 sound like a mod is not compatible with some other mod. #3 is a common problem when you have a lot of mods. Most of us have learned to live with it. Post a mod load order along with if you are using OBMM, OBSE, Wrye Bash & whether you are using XP or Vista.
DasMagi
Ok, I do have a lot of mods yet I am using Vista, and to launch the game I am using Oblivion Character Manager. Here is the Mode load order.
bben46
There are some in your list that I am not familiar with. The only mod I know of the purposely leaves hand prints is Harvest containers and it is not on your list. Have you ever used it?

Have you added any mods since it worked properly? If so, do they need an updated version of OBSE or another mod to work?

Check your lock related mods to see if any of them do it. Try disabling them if you are not sure.

Does the Oblivion Character Manager launcher automatically launch OBSE? Its an old mod - last update Sept 2006. OBMM has a save manager built in that can be used to track your separate characters, and is up to date and it automatically launches OBSE when you launch from it. It will also tell you which mods were active on each save.
Shadowcran
Oblivion.esm
BathingMod_Base.esm
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm
HelmetFOV.esm
Knights.esp
HelmetFOV-KOTN.esp
DLCHorseArmor.esp
horse stay put 1.0.esp
Bald_Hairstyle.esp
callsteed1.5.esp
movablebodies.esp
Ring of the Assassin.esp
MoreArenaSpectators.esp
tag_NaturalWildlife.esp
GKs Max Merchant Gold.esp
Mana.esp
Betterleveledlists.esp
NirnrootPermPotions.esp
Unlimited Amulets 1.0.esp Wrye bash's Bashed Patch has this as a feature so you wouldn't need this mod
Landmarks.esp
DLCFrostcrag.esp
Arena_BattlesV1.1.esp
more books teach.esp The Student Mod is actually better than this one for the same thing.
town loot v1.0.esp
SaddleBag.esp
Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp
Maquissar_Seasonal_Plants.esp
DLCOrrery.esp
The Ring Of Invisibility.esp
Auto Potion.esp
MapMarkers.esp
More Realistic Sneaking 1.9 - Sneak Attack Modifiers.esp
More Realistic Sneaking 1.9 - Sneaking Changes.esp
More Realistic Sneaking 1.9 - Sleepkill Dagger.esp
RenDisguises.esp
300_Artifacts.esp
za_bankmod.esp
Days&Months.esp
BreakingWindext.esp
Regrowing Nirnroot - Dissappear Reappear.esp
SeasonalWeather.esp
Regional-Bounty-Decreasing-v1.2.esp
Furniture Prices.esp
NoMerchantBarterChatter.esp
Archery Shop.esp
VA_BetterGold.esp
Crowded Roads.esp
cyrodiil transportation network 1.2.esp
P1DkeyChain.esp
darkarrow.esp
Better Beggars.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
Gazerith's Spell Books V1.0.esp
Louder Ninroots.esp
Better Loot v1.0.esp
Dark Brotherhood merchant fix.esp
DLCSpellTomes.esp
Brivas Assassin Clothes.esp
ItemQuantityPromptRemover.esp
Shadow's Ceramic Value Fix.esp
Shadow's Tools Value Fix.esp
DUM's Disguises.esp
Armory Arcane.esp
PasFixEnc.esp
portable alchemical sorter.esp
Private Mobile Base.esp
Shadow's Book Value Fix.esp
BagofHolding.esp
Realistic Arrow Flight.esp
'Eagle Eye' Realistic Archery v1.0 Fixed.esp
Ambient Inns, 0.1.esp
Unlimited Rings 2.0 -auto.esp This too is covered in the Bashed Patch of Wrye bash. If you use WB you don't need this one
Clothingvalue.esp
Pegasus.esp
_FG_Merchant Inventory Realism_Normal_V1.4.esp
_FG_Merchant Inventory Realism_Pickable Locks_V1.4.esp
Real Lava v1.2.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Guard Names 1.0.esp
Unlimited Weapon Recharge.esp
JM's Bar Fights.esp
qazHorseCommand.esp
DarkBrotherhoodPoison.esp
TamrielTravellers.esp
ACF ADVLOCKPICK MOLD.esp
Cliff_CountyNames.esp
Money Box v0.1.esp
Daedra Reward Attributes v1.0.esp
Boots of Blinding Speed Add v1.0.esp
Cliff_RiskyInnBeds.esp
Talos Bridge.esp
IshMountedCombatSpellsOnSelf.esp
808-Better Water-TESSource.esp
1535-1-Night Eye Toggle-TESSource.esp
Rainbows.esp
Mounted_Trampling.esp
Mounted_Spellcasting.esp
Harvestable Clams.esp odd. I'm not familiar with this mod but like Bben said the "handprint" is caused by harvesting mods. Disable this one and see if it's the one doing it. Then you can decide on whether to put it back in.
qazHorseCommand -horsearmor.esp
moDem's City Life.esp
dwr.esp
qazSteerHorsesWithMouse.esp
P1DcandlesForKleptos.esp
RMShieldOnBack.esp
Bedrollsanyone.esp
Get Wet.esp
Horse_Dung.esp
AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp
AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp
AliveWaters.esp
Shadow equipment.esp
Decent Rewards v2.esp
arenaloot.esp
ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp
BetterLeveling.esp
Simsarmys Scholar Dialogue Patch.esp
DB_Disguise_100.esp
NPCsMoreGold.esp
OOO-Lockfix.esp
OOOHangoverRemedy.esp

TrainerFind.esp
moregems.esp
CampfireBehavior.esp
Ring of console.esp
BathingMod_Soap.esp
BathingMod_Placeable_Bathtubs.esp
BathingMod_Bathroom_Upgrades.esp
NPC Water-Sink.esp
Add_Arena_Robes-5411.esp
DB_Sanctuary_Key-5105.esp
CoverYourself_NoCharm.esp
A_Gender_Equalization-6311.esp
BanditMarauders_wear_Helmets-2914.esp
Chameleon-NoRefraction-2411.esp
Finger_of_the_Mountain_Fix-3152.esp
Gemfix-6955.esp
Get_Your_Arrows_Back-9403.esp
Horse_AI-2364.esp
Less_spell_cost-8808.esp
Nirnroot_Tweak-2033.esp
Torn_Pelts_Mod-2731.esp
upperclass_clothes_cost_fix-7790.esp
300ft_crime_detection-7319.esp
100_AnvilCottage V1.2.esp
AmbientTownSounds.esp
PinePeakLodge.esp
MerryBellInn.esp
SleepyCatInn.esp
SingingStablehandInn.esp
Mounted_ScriptIcon.esp
Living Economy.esp
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp
OOO-Magic_Script_Effect_Fix.esp
OOO-DLT_Remover.esp
OOO-Container_Trap_Instant_Effects.esp
OOO-Map_Markers_Stock.esp
OOO-No_Guild_Ownership.esp
OOO-Water_Weeds.esp

Shield on Back Plugin - OOO.esp
JQ-Bandages.esp
Hov's Hotkeys.esp
TheArena Fixed.esp
Update1-9881.esp
Better_Frostcrag_Spire_Lighting-6682.esp
KC-AdaptiveRing01.esp


First of all, the load order isn't right. You need a simple Download, http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=20516 . This will auto sort your mods into a correct load order in mere seconds. Make sure you install this mod correctly. It's very easy to use.


You might want to consider using Wrye Bash, another utility, that helps. Learn it slowly. You need to download Python and wxPython to use it but it's totally worth it.
http://wrye.ufrealms.net/Wrye%20Bash.html

Unless you're using the Oscuros Oblivion Overhaul Lite esp, you don't need the extra OOO files as they're included in the Oscuros FULL esp.

You're using a lot of tweak mods, which I find commendable(not many use these, but I'm one of them that tends to know more about what's availabe than most). With Wrye Bash you won't need a few of the mods and a lot of others will be "bashed patch mergeable" which means they'll merge into the patch and won't count towards your "255 mod limit" total. That's one great thing about tweaks.

Take my advice on the load order and Wrye Bash. Also, take a look at the mods in BOLD that I included messages about.

If you like the idea of harvesting, try the harvesting containers and Qarl's logs. Excellent small mods.

Hope I helped
DasMagi
Thanks for the help and information. I still just can not manage to understand Wrye Bash, especially on how to reorder the load of the mods. I can now open boxes and chests now with no problems though.
Shadowcran
The BOSS(better oblivion sorting Software) can auto sort your load order in seconds. It was formerly known as "FCOM helper" but I guess the confusion for new players with that and FCOM convergence is why Random007 renamed it.
drycat
Please don't take this post as certain way to solve your mod issues, but, I found that using Elminster's LODGen actually assisted me in identifying mod dependency problems as it loads all masters and plugins, and performs a review of them prior to preparing the LOD's. This short review helped me find two nagging dependency that were just a question of load order. ie.. this esp is dependent on this esp loading first; this esm must load before this esm, etc. However, not recommended as a first start laugh.gif
DasMagi
Thanks for all the info ppl. I am now having some problems where the program locks up while loading last saved game. I would just like some sort of profile manager that will work with everything.
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