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egga
Another problem I have. After I install 1stAlchemygirlcompanion mod and CTN, the elves eyes are gone. they have no eyes. then the redguards, argonians, orcs, and finally mine (imperial)
any ideas?
bben46
Usually when you have problems with eyes its caused by more than one cosmetic mod installed at a time. If your new mod changes anything about the eyes, or hair, It may be conflicting with another mod that changes the same thing. Such as Rens or another eye or beauty mod.
egga
What should I do?
Should I uninstall everything? and install it again?
I don't know what to do, I've been having problem with oblivion and windows for a few weeks. They make me confused. Maybe I should rest for a while.


"Sometimes I think we spend more time getting Oblivion to work than we do playing it"

You right about it!
bben46
When you install a new mod, test it before installing another one.

Here is my recommended reinstall procedure for Oblivion, But be sure your computer is working right first.




When you uninstall Oblivion it doesn't really uninstall everything. Then when you start adding mods before you have started the game, some things may not get initialized properly. Here is my recommended procedure for uninstalling and reinstalling.

It does not remove your mods, save games or Oblivion.ini or the entries that the original installation of Oblivion placed in your Windows registry. It also does not remove helper programs such as OBSE, OBMM, Wrye Bash, The construction set or any other programs you have installed in the \Oblivion folder or the save game folder. I recommend that you go ahead and delete them, then re download and install the latest version of them again later. After you have verified that the game works.

I would appreciate any feedback on this as it is something I expect to post often and I hate to give bogus or useless information.

Uninstalling Oblivion

My instructions assume you are using Windows XP and have installed Oblivion into the default location. If you are using Vista or Linux, the file locations may be different, however, the procedure will be thae same.

For a full reinstall, first you can try to preserve your mods and save games. I recommend that you save them in a new folder with a new name. Create the new folder in C:\Program files\Bethesda Softeworks. Name it Old Files. So it will be C:\Program Files\Bethesda softworks\Old files.

Then copy the data folder where your mods are to the new folder - do not erase them, copy them. And in the new folder, rename the \data folder to \olddata. Then copy and rename the folder that has your saved games and Oblivion.ini, C:\documents and settings\your user name\my documents\My Games\oblivion to something like \My games\Old Oblivion - this saves your saved games and the oblivion.ini file.

Then, using the original CD, NOT the Launcher on your Hard drive. Select uninstall.

After it completes the uninstall, reboot your computer - this is important as it allows Windows to remove some references to the original Oblivion.

This would be the time to erase all of the helper programs you have in the \Oblivion folder. Such as OBMM, OBSE and some others. The simplest way is to delete the folder completely. The new install will re create the folder for you along with a fresh oblivion.ini and when you start the game and make a save, a new save folder and new \data folder.

This would also be a good time to do a file clean up.

To remove the registry entries that were left behind. There are several good programs for removing left behind entries. The one I use is ccleaner. Be sure to reboot before using it, and again after. It is free and available here: http://majorgeeks.com/download4191.html

Now that everything is cleaned up, do a full defrag on your hard drive to leave a large uncluttered area to reinstall to. This prevents your game from installing in a fragmented way, with parts scattered all over the drive. It also will speed up the install a little.



Now to Reinstall.

Again using the original CD, install Oblivion.

NOTE: If you are using Vista, DO NOT install to the default directory. Instead make a new directory I recommend C:\Games. Install Oblivion there to avoid the hassle with Vista UAC blocking mods.

Before adding any mods, patches, helper programs, Shivering Isles or anything else, start the game and make a save. This initializes some stuff that needs to be initialized.

If you are using the Game of the Year version of Oblivion you should not need any patches, skip the patching part.

Now, If you DO NOT use Shivering Isles, patch the game using ONLY the latest Oblivion patch. All of the stuff from the earlier patches is included.

Be sure you use the proper language patch. If you use the wrong one it may work, but with a strange mixture of languages. (Germanglish?) Or it may crash.

NOTE: there are two English Patches UK & US and they are different. (Some people actually think we speak the same language) Use the one that matches your original disk.

If you use Shivering Isles, Install it now. DO NOT install the Oblivion patch. Install Shivering Isles, then ONLY the latest Shivering Isles patch. All of the updates for Oblivion are included. There is only one Shivering Isles patch for both US & UK English (Maybe sometimes we do speak the same language.)

Now, again start the game, make sure it looks right, move around a little to test it, and make a save. Test to be sure everything is working right (No purple objects or yellow blocks)

Before adding any mods, back up both your \data folder and the save game folder. Copy them, don't move or rename them, to a different folder - such as \Bethesda\Clean Oblivion\data and \Bethesda\clean Oblivion\saves. Note that this is a different folder than the one used for your old data and saves.

Note, Your Oblivion.ini file is in the same folder, but separate from, the save game folder.

Now, if you want to try to run with your old mods, first rename the original folders. The \data folder to \newdata and the \oldata back to \data. this restores all of your mods. You should now have 2 data folders \data, and \newdata in your \oblivion folder

To restore your original saves and ini file, rename the new My Games\Oblivion to something like \New Oblivion. and the \Old oblivion to \oblivion - this restores all of your saved games and your original Oblivion.ini file.

DO NOT erase the files you renamed. These are your backup files in case the original mods do not work or give you the same problem.

If you have the same problem, it is most likely caused by a mod. However, you now have a clean install to fall back on. You can rename the files back to what they were and be back to your clean install without having to reinstall again.

Sounds like lots of work, but you will have a clean install and a back up clean install when you are finished.

Post your comments here: http://s1.zetaboards.com/TheStormRavenLibrary/forum/236320/
egga
"Now, again start the game, make sure it looks right, move around a little to test it, and make a save. Test to be sure everything is working right (No purple objects or yellow blocks)"

Is this starting a new game or load from saved file?

The Zeta board need username and password. Should I register first?

Thank you very much for the recommendation. I will try it after my computer works fine.
egga
I will do as you say and tell you about the progress in a week or more since I must fix my computer first.

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bben46
That was starting a new game, then do it again if you put your old mods back in.

The registration is optional. It allows you to get into more of the board. The reason for the registration is to keep down the spam.
ollopa123
This happened to me when I had both Eye Candy and Fantasy Figures (I think) activated at the same time. I simply went to Data Files, and unmarked Fantasy Figures.
egga
I use beautiful people and unchecked the esp. but no change. I'll reinstall everything
egga
QUOTE(bben46 @ Dec 1 2008, 07:11 PM) *
That was starting a new game, then do it again if you put your old mods back in.

The registration is optional. It allows you to get into more of the board. The reason for the registration is to keep down the spam.


The forum at zetaboard doesn't exist

I have use antivirus to detect my computer. It seems there are a lot of virus at WINDOWS folder which makes I cannot run uninstall. So I decided to reformat the windows. Now I'm on the phase to install OBMM, I hope nothing wrong happen.

-Thank You-
egga
I use Oscuro Oblivion Overhaul at the old data. Is it ok just to rename it? or should I install the mod again? I fear another problem will come.
egga
QUOTE(ollopa123 @ Dec 1 2008, 09:02 PM) *
This happened to me when I had both Eye Candy and Fantasy Figures (I think) activated at the same time. I simply went to Data Files, and unmarked Fantasy Figures.


Well I think I finally found the problem, it's the male body replace mod that conflict with beautiful people. Thank you for sharing ollopa123
egga
QUOTE(bben46 @ Dec 1 2008, 05:51 PM) *
When you install a new mod, test it before installing another one.

Here is my recommended reinstall procedure for Oblivion, But be sure your computer is working right first.




When you uninstall Oblivion it doesn't really uninstall everything. Then when you start adding mods before you have started the game, some things may not get initialized properly. Here is my recommended procedure for uninstalling and reinstalling.

It does not remove your mods, save games or Oblivion.ini or the entries that the original installation of Oblivion placed in your Windows registry. It also does not remove helper programs such as OBSE, OBMM, Wrye Bash, The construction set or any other programs you have installed in the \Oblivion folder or the save game folder. I recommend that you go ahead and delete them, then re download and install the latest version of them again later. After you have verified that the game works.

I would appreciate any feedback on this as it is something I expect to post often and I hate to give bogus or useless information.

Uninstalling Oblivion

My instructions assume you are using Windows XP and have installed Oblivion into the default location. If you are using Vista or Linux, the file locations may be different, however, the procedure will be thae same.

For a full reinstall, first you can try to preserve your mods and save games. I recommend that you save them in a new folder with a new name. Create the new folder in C:\Program files\Bethesda Softeworks. Name it Old Files. So it will be C:\Program Files\Bethesda softworks\Old files.

Then copy the data folder where your mods are to the new folder - do not erase them, copy them. And in the new folder, rename the \data folder to \olddata. Then copy and rename the folder that has your saved games and Oblivion.ini, C:\documents and settings\your user name\my documents\My Games\oblivion to something like \My games\Old Oblivion - this saves your saved games and the oblivion.ini file.

Then, using the original CD, NOT the Launcher on your Hard drive. Select uninstall.

After it completes the uninstall, reboot your computer - this is important as it allows Windows to remove some references to the original Oblivion.

This would be the time to erase all of the helper programs you have in the \Oblivion folder. Such as OBMM, OBSE and some others. The simplest way is to delete the folder completely. The new install will re create the folder for you along with a fresh oblivion.ini and when you start the game and make a save, a new save folder and new \data folder.

This would also be a good time to do a file clean up.

To remove the registry entries that were left behind. There are several good programs for removing left behind entries. The one I use is ccleaner. Be sure to reboot before using it, and again after. It is free and available here: http://majorgeeks.com/download4191.html

Now that everything is cleaned up, do a full defrag on your hard drive to leave a large uncluttered area to reinstall to. This prevents your game from installing in a fragmented way, with parts scattered all over the drive. It also will speed up the install a little.



Now to Reinstall.

Again using the original CD, install Oblivion.

NOTE: If you are using Vista, DO NOT install to the default directory. Instead make a new directory I recommend C:\Games. Install Oblivion there to avoid the hassle with Vista UAC blocking mods.

Before adding any mods, patches, helper programs, Shivering Isles or anything else, start the game and make a save. This initializes some stuff that needs to be initialized.

If you are using the Game of the Year version of Oblivion you should not need any patches, skip the patching part.

Now, If you DO NOT use Shivering Isles, patch the game using ONLY the latest Oblivion patch. All of the stuff from the earlier patches is included.

Be sure you use the proper language patch. If you use the wrong one it may work, but with a strange mixture of languages. (Germanglish?) Or it may crash.

NOTE: there are two English Patches UK & US and they are different. (Some people actually think we speak the same language) Use the one that matches your original disk.

If you use Shivering Isles, Install it now. DO NOT install the Oblivion patch. Install Shivering Isles, then ONLY the latest Shivering Isles patch. All of the updates for Oblivion are included. There is only one Shivering Isles patch for both US & UK English (Maybe sometimes we do speak the same language.)

Now, again start the game, make sure it looks right, move around a little to test it, and make a save. Test to be sure everything is working right (No purple objects or yellow blocks)

Before adding any mods, back up both your \data folder and the save game folder. Copy them, don't move or rename them, to a different folder - such as \Bethesda\Clean Oblivion\data and \Bethesda\clean Oblivion\saves. Note that this is a different folder than the one used for your old data and saves.

Note, Your Oblivion.ini file is in the same folder, but separate from, the save game folder.

Now, if you want to try to run with your old mods, first rename the original folders. The \data folder to \newdata and the \oldata back to \data. this restores all of your mods. You should now have 2 data folders \data, and \newdata in your \oblivion folder

To restore your original saves and ini file, rename the new My Games\Oblivion to something like \New Oblivion. and the \Old oblivion to \oblivion - this restores all of your saved games and your original Oblivion.ini file.

DO NOT erase the files you renamed. These are your backup files in case the original mods do not work or give you the same problem.

If you have the same problem, it is most likely caused by a mod. However, you now have a clean install to fall back on. You can rename the files back to what they were and be back to your clean install without having to reinstall again.

Sounds like lots of work, but you will have a clean install and a back up clean install when you are finished.

Post your comments here: http://s1.zetaboards.com/TheStormRavenLibrary/forum/236320/



I have follow your recommendation. So far so good. Everything works fine. I think the one that makes my computer doesn't work well is the virus. after downloading the anti virus from the site you linked, I found a lot of viruses. The nifskope (the one I download from nexus if I'm not mistaken (I forgot)) too contain virus named tanatos or something. Anyway everything works fine now. I haven't test everything. Oh yeah, when I quit Oblivion, there was a message saying something about Oblivion occur problems and ask me to send this problem to microsoft or not. Is that mod problem or my computer start to screw again?

Thank you very much for your recommendation. Its mean a lot to me.
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bben46
The message asking you to send info to Microsoft is a standard Microsoft message for any abnormal exit from any program. Sending the info will get you a reply saying it isn't Microsoft's fault and not their problem. Totally useless.

Most of us get that and just ignore it. When you have a lot of mods, Oblivion seems to have a problem shutting down normally.

Good luck with your virus problem. I have been through it and finally reformatted my drive to get rid of one. I hope there is a special place in hell for those who put viruses on computers.
egga
Annoying virus, I agree with you.

Oh yeah,
My computer works fine now. Once again thank you very much for your help and advice on my computer's problem. I am very grateful.

thanks.gif
bben46
Great, glad to hear you are working again.

The site with my help files does exist. I was just on it a few minutes ago. It may have been down when you tried. if you need it here is the link again.

http://s1.zetaboards.com/TheStormRavenLibrary/forum/256092/

To go beyond the beginner part, or to post, you need to register. It's free and its just to keep the barbarians (spam) out.

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