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you said that to run a mod i need to have vista runing as a administrato but how do i do that i hask my dad and my uncle but they didnt know how to (im using a laptop)
QUOTE(incamaya @ Nov 23 2008, 04:14 AM) 
you said that to run a mod i need to have vista runing as a administrato but how do i do that i hask my dad and my uncle but they didnt know how to (im using a laptop)
You are limiting your chances to get an answer
Although there is no doubt bben46 is very qualified to help in this question he may not be present when the question comes (or even miss the post at all, if too many others push it too far away).Running as an administrator means using the "Administrator" account or an account with administrative privileges. (Edited the remaining text on this paragraph to remove irrelevant informations)
To create or change accounts Windows have an easy to use feature you may find in the Start menu or in the Control Panel. Just follow the directions there.
Edit (read this first): That "Administrator" user is aways present on every Windows machine.
BTW.. you already knows that password, is the same you must give on the omnipresent boxes asking for privileged access... I was thinking as a XP user
So maybe isn't even need to login with another account to create or change administratives accounts, just give that password when asked.But there is something else bben forgot to mention. Vista asks for entering administrator password in some things EVEN when the user is already logged with administrative privileges or 'even' the own administrator... I'll not 'even' try to understand why.
nosisab covered most of this. The administrator account is the top level account that is created by whoever sets up the computer.
The administrator sets up the other accounts (user accounts) and sets their privileges.
Users are usually limited accounts. The administrator can change a user account to give it administrator privileges , essentially unlimited access. However, a user account cannot change themselves to an administrator without the administrator privileges.
There is a password associated with each user. And the Administrator account password is required to sign on as administrator. And also to make some administrator level changes.
Oblivion was written before Vista was released and does not work as well with Vista as with XP.
You will have to find who has the administrator password and ask them to change your user account to give you administrator privileges. As this gives you access to every file on the computer and access to every other user's stuff, they may not want to do this.
Note, to keep this in the same thread, instead of making a new one each time, click on the new reply button at the bottom of the page. That will make it easier to follow.
The administrator sets up the other accounts (user accounts) and sets their privileges.
Users are usually limited accounts. The administrator can change a user account to give it administrator privileges , essentially unlimited access. However, a user account cannot change themselves to an administrator without the administrator privileges.
There is a password associated with each user. And the Administrator account password is required to sign on as administrator. And also to make some administrator level changes.
Oblivion was written before Vista was released and does not work as well with Vista as with XP.
You will have to find who has the administrator password and ask them to change your user account to give you administrator privileges. As this gives you access to every file on the computer and access to every other user's stuff, they may not want to do this.
Note, to keep this in the same thread, instead of making a new one each time, click on the new reply button at the bottom of the page. That will make it easier to follow.
Since you posted another thread about the same issue is to suppose you don't understood the answer yet.
Recall all those box on Vista asking for a password? Yes, that is the password for the administrator, so you or one of the computer users know it. If nothing changed in the final release Vista have one entry in the Control Panel called "User Accounts" that is where you can change the privileges of each account or even create a new one. Only than to do so you need be already under an administrative account, or (here is where I'm not sure) under a common user account Vista will prompt you to supply that famous password. That is it, isn't hard to do.
Recall all those box on Vista asking for a password? Yes, that is the password for the administrator, so you or one of the computer users know it. If nothing changed in the final release Vista have one entry in the Control Panel called "User Accounts" that is where you can change the privileges of each account or even create a new one. Only than to do so you need be already under an administrative account, or (here is where I'm not sure) under a common user account Vista will prompt you to supply that famous password. That is it, isn't hard to do.
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you said that to run a mod i need to have vista runing as a administrato but how do i do that i hask my dad and my uncle but they didnt know how to (im using a laptop)
Off topic, but why does your profile say you're 28 years old? And why isn't lying about that grounds for being banned? (Especially since there is adult content on this site.)
QUOTE(bben46 @ Nov 23 2008, 01:55 PM)
nosisab covered most of this. The administrator account is the top level account that is created by whoever sets up the computer.
The administrator sets up the other accounts (user accounts) and sets their privileges.
Users are usually limited accounts. The administrator can change a user account to give it administrator privileges , essentially unlimited access. However, a user account cannot change themselves to an administrator without the administrator privileges.
There is a password associated with each user. And the Administrator account password is required to sign on as administrator. And also to make some administrator level changes.
Oblivion was written before Vista was released and does not work as well with Vista as with XP.
You will have to find who has the administrator password and ask them to change your user account to give you administrator privileges. As this gives you access to every file on the computer and access to every other user's stuff, they may not want to do this.
HOW DO I FIND THE ADMINISTRATOR ACOUNT OR LOGG IN OR SOMETHING
Note, to keep this in the same thread, instead of making a new one each time, click on the new reply button at the bottom of the page. That will make it easier to follow.
The administrator sets up the other accounts (user accounts) and sets their privileges.
Users are usually limited accounts. The administrator can change a user account to give it administrator privileges , essentially unlimited access. However, a user account cannot change themselves to an administrator without the administrator privileges.
There is a password associated with each user. And the Administrator account password is required to sign on as administrator. And also to make some administrator level changes.
Oblivion was written before Vista was released and does not work as well with Vista as with XP.
You will have to find who has the administrator password and ask them to change your user account to give you administrator privileges. As this gives you access to every file on the computer and access to every other user's stuff, they may not want to do this.
HOW DO I FIND THE ADMINISTRATOR ACOUNT OR LOGG IN OR SOMETHING
Note, to keep this in the same thread, instead of making a new one each time, click on the new reply button at the bottom of the page. That will make it easier to follow.
QUOTE(incamaya @ Nov 23 2008, 03:43 PM)
QUOTE(bben46 @ Nov 23 2008, 01:55 PM)
nosisab covered most of this. The administrator account is the top level account that is created by whoever sets up the computer.
The administrator sets up the other accounts (user accounts) and sets their privileges.
Users are usually limited accounts. The administrator can change a user account to give it administrator privileges , essentially unlimited access. However, a user account cannot change themselves to an administrator without the administrator privileges.
There is a password associated with each user. And the Administrator account password is required to sign on as administrator. And also to make some administrator level changes.
Oblivion was written before Vista was released and does not work as well with Vista as with XP.
You will have to find who has the administrator password and ask them to change your user account to give you administrator privileges. As this gives you access to every file on the computer and access to every other user's stuff, they may not want to do this.
Note, to keep this in the same thread, instead of making a new one each time, click on the new reply button at the bottom of the page. That will make it easier to follow.
The administrator sets up the other accounts (user accounts) and sets their privileges.
Users are usually limited accounts. The administrator can change a user account to give it administrator privileges , essentially unlimited access. However, a user account cannot change themselves to an administrator without the administrator privileges.
There is a password associated with each user. And the Administrator account password is required to sign on as administrator. And also to make some administrator level changes.
Oblivion was written before Vista was released and does not work as well with Vista as with XP.
You will have to find who has the administrator password and ask them to change your user account to give you administrator privileges. As this gives you access to every file on the computer and access to every other user's stuff, they may not want to do this.
Note, to keep this in the same thread, instead of making a new one each time, click on the new reply button at the bottom of the page. That will make it easier to follow.
HOW CAN I LOGG IN IN THE ADMINISTRATOR OR USE IT OR SOMETHING
If it's not your laptop maybe they don't want you logging in with administrator privileges (your dad or your uncle?).
QUOTE(incamaya @ Nov 23 2008, 03:47 PM)
HOW CAN I LOGG IN IN THE ADMINISTRATOR OR USE IT OR SOMETHING
Why, just click on the Big Button on the task bar, so go in Log Off --> Switch User --- you will be presented with a box where you enter Administrator into the user field ... and type in the 'same password' you use in those ubiquitous boxes Vista presents the user every time and everywhere that asks for a password (it even says it need administrative privileges to do whatever you are trying to do, such as installing things)
And Myrmaad have a point there
Indeed, if you knows the administrator password all is ok, just go ahead with the instructions above.. else, no one in the forum can help.
QUOTE(myrmaad @ Nov 23 2008, 04:56 PM)
If it's not your laptop maybe they don't want you logging in with administrator privileges (your dad or your uncle?).
very good point...something is not adding up here!
Here is a link to how to get into the administrator account. just click on the highlighted text below to be taken to the site.
http://www.mydigitallife.info/2007/03/07/e...-windows-vista/
Hope this helps.
It looks like English might not be your native language. What is it? maybe we can find someone who can communicate better.
http://www.mydigitallife.info/2007/03/07/e...-windows-vista/
Hope this helps.
It looks like English might not be your native language. What is it? maybe we can find someone who can communicate better.
QUOTE(bben46 @ Nov 23 2008, 04:06 PM)
Here is a link to how to get into the administrator account. just click on the highlighted text below to be taken to the site.
http://www.mydigitallife.info/2007/03/07/e...-windows-vista/
Hope this helps.
It looks like English might not be your native language. What is it? maybe we can find someone who can communicate better.
http://www.mydigitallife.info/2007/03/07/e...-windows-vista/
Hope this helps.
It looks like English might not be your native language. What is it? maybe we can find someone who can communicate better.
Why bben, another "security enhancement" from vista, the administrator is disabled by default but can be activated by anyone that knows how to use a browser? hahahahaha
MS will never quit treating it's users as imbeciles until he proves smart enough to overcome their security measures, that most of times don't need any genius to do so...
Much better was having this account enabled since the beginning and "Forcing" the user to setup a password to it
Such a thing is completely awkward, indeed it hides from the user than he have a BIG, MONSTROUS, gargantual security bomb with a very short wick.
QUOTE(bben46 @ Nov 23 2008, 04:06 PM)
Here is a link to how to get into the administrator account. just click on the highlighted text below to be taken to the site.
http://www.mydigitallife.info/2007/03/07/e...-windows-vista/
Hope this helps.
It looks like English might not be your native language. What is it? maybe we can find someone who can communicate better.
http://www.mydigitallife.info/2007/03/07/e...-windows-vista/
Hope this helps.
It looks like English might not be your native language. What is it? maybe we can find someone who can communicate better.
my native language is spanish but i understannd english perfectly and how did you know and we i switch user there is no administrator user just my dads and he cant be hiden it from me cause he doesnt know what it is.. someone told me to switch user but the only user there is is my dad this is a real mess. sorry to bother every one
do i need to drag the mod file to the oblivion icon thats on the screen to install the mod or what ps i still cant find the administrator accont
QUOTE(incamaya @ Nov 23 2008, 04:30 PM)
QUOTE(bben46 @ Nov 23 2008, 04:06 PM)
Here is a link to how to get into the administrator account. just click on the highlighted text below to be taken to the site.
http://www.mydigitallife.info/2007/03/07/e...-windows-vista/
Hope this helps.
It looks like English might not be your native language. What is it? maybe we can find someone who can communicate better.
http://www.mydigitallife.info/2007/03/07/e...-windows-vista/
Hope this helps.
It looks like English might not be your native language. What is it? maybe we can find someone who can communicate better.
my native language is spanish but i understannd english perfectly and how did you know and we i switch user there is no administrator user just my dads and he cant be hiden it from me cause he doesnt know what it is.. someone told me to switch user but the only user there is is my dad this is a real mess. sorry to bother every one
nadie está hablando de personas reales, lo que estamos diciendo es "user" como el nombre de una cuenta para acceder a la computadora. La misma máquina puede tener varios "users". Usted mismo puede tener más de una cuenta (o sea, tener mas que uno "user"), una con acceso restringido y otra amplia con derechos administrativos, por ejemplo.
hope this turns things more clear.
QUOTE(nosisab @ Nov 23 2008, 04:46 PM)
QUOTE(incamaya @ Nov 23 2008, 04:30 PM)
QUOTE(bben46 @ Nov 23 2008, 04:06 PM)
Here is a link to how to get into the administrator account. just click on the highlighted text below to be taken to the site.
http://www.mydigitallife.info/2007/03/07/e...-windows-vista/
Hope this helps.
It looks like English might not be your native language. What is it? maybe we can find someone who can communicate better.
http://www.mydigitallife.info/2007/03/07/e...-windows-vista/
Hope this helps.
It looks like English might not be your native language. What is it? maybe we can find someone who can communicate better.
my native language is spanish but i understannd english perfectly and how did you know and we i switch user there is no administrator user just my dads and he cant be hiden it from me cause he doesnt know what it is.. someone told me to switch user but the only user there is is my dad this is a real mess. sorry to bother every one
nadie está hablando de personas reales, lo que estamos diciendo es "user" como el nombre de una cuenta para acceder a la computadora. La misma máquina puede tener varios "users". Usted mismo puede tener más de una cuenta (o sea, tener mas que uno "user"), una con acceso restringido y otra amplia con derechos administrativos, por ejemplo.
hope this turns things more clear.
no lo vasn a creer.. you wont belive what i just found thta the laptop was running as an administrator all this time or what ever it is but its on the administrator thing now how do i get the mod to run its the real masamune mod
Okay, now we are getting somewhere. This actually looks like a good mod to start with, not too complicated.
I have a set of help files for beginners on another site. Click on the highlighted text below to be taken there.
http://s1.zetaboards.com/TheStormRavenLibrary/forum/256092/
They include a small mod to learn on as well as instructions on getting the mod into the game. Start with #1 and go through them in order, it should take less than a half hour. The mod I use is as simple as I could make it. It doesn't need anything else to work and should work with any version of Oblivion. After you get it to work, you can throw it out as it has no effect on the game or any other mods. It's only purpose is to see if you did it right.
Let us know what happens.
More info on using Vista
Quoted from the Oblivion Mods FAQ WIKI
Using VISTA only: If you have downloaded and installed, and the mod is appearing in your Data Files List, but not in your game. Then you should reinstall Oblivion into a different directory instead of the default.
Installing mods on a Windows Vista system is bit trickier than it is on Windows XP due to Vista's increased security.
For best results, it is recommended to install Oblivion to a location other than the default C:\Program Files\ folder. Another location such as C:\Oblivion\ or D:\games\Oblivion\ will work better. This will avoid the file permission problems many users have experienced due to the increased security restrictions Vista places on the Program Files folder.
Wiki entry on installing Oblivion in Vista: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/Windows_Vista
If you can't, or just don't want to reinstall Oblivion try this.
Vista users may have to disable a security function known as UAC. If you have downloaded and installed, and the mod is appearing in your Data Files List, but not in your game check to see if UAC is turned on. If so. Look here for instructions on how to turn it off. http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vis...-windows-vista/
I have a set of help files for beginners on another site. Click on the highlighted text below to be taken there.
http://s1.zetaboards.com/TheStormRavenLibrary/forum/256092/
They include a small mod to learn on as well as instructions on getting the mod into the game. Start with #1 and go through them in order, it should take less than a half hour. The mod I use is as simple as I could make it. It doesn't need anything else to work and should work with any version of Oblivion. After you get it to work, you can throw it out as it has no effect on the game or any other mods. It's only purpose is to see if you did it right.
Let us know what happens.
More info on using Vista
Quoted from the Oblivion Mods FAQ WIKI
Using VISTA only: If you have downloaded and installed, and the mod is appearing in your Data Files List, but not in your game. Then you should reinstall Oblivion into a different directory instead of the default.
Installing mods on a Windows Vista system is bit trickier than it is on Windows XP due to Vista's increased security.
For best results, it is recommended to install Oblivion to a location other than the default C:\Program Files\ folder. Another location such as C:\Oblivion\ or D:\games\Oblivion\ will work better. This will avoid the file permission problems many users have experienced due to the increased security restrictions Vista places on the Program Files folder.
Wiki entry on installing Oblivion in Vista: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/Windows_Vista
If you can't, or just don't want to reinstall Oblivion try this.
Vista users may have to disable a security function known as UAC. If you have downloaded and installed, and the mod is appearing in your Data Files List, but not in your game check to see if UAC is turned on. If so. Look here for instructions on how to turn it off. http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vis...-windows-vista/
QUOTE(bben46 @ Nov 23 2008, 06:30 PM)
Okay, now we are getting somewhere. This actually looks like a good mod to start with, not too complicated.
I have a set of help files for beginners on another site. Click on the highlighted text below to be taken there.
http://s1.zetaboards.com/TheStormRavenLibrary/forum/256092/
They include a small mod to learn on as well as instructions on getting the mod into the game. Start with #1 and go through them in order, it should take less than a half hour. The mod I use is as simple as I could make it. It doesn't need anything else to work and should work with any version of Oblivion. After you get it to work, you can throw it out as it has no effect on the game or any other mods. It's only purpose is to see if you did it right.
Let us know what happens.
More info on using Vista
Quoted from the Oblivion Mods FAQ WIKI
Using VISTA only: If you have downloaded and installed, and the mod is appearing in your Data Files List, but not in your game. Then you should reinstall Oblivion into a different directory instead of the default.
Installing mods on a Windows Vista system is bit trickier than it is on Windows XP due to Vista's increased security.
For best results, it is recommended to install Oblivion to a location other than the default C:\Program Files\ folder. Another location such as C:\Oblivion\ or D:\games\Oblivion\ will work better. This will avoid the file permission problems many users have experienced due to the increased security restrictions Vista places on the Program Files folder.
Wiki entry on installing Oblivion in Vista: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/Windows_Vista
If you can't, or just don't want to reinstall Oblivion try this.
Vista users may have to disable a security function known as UAC. If you have downloaded and installed, and the mod is appearing in your Data Files List, but not in your game check to see if UAC is turned on. If so. Look here for instructions on how to turn it off. http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vis...-windows-vista/
I have a set of help files for beginners on another site. Click on the highlighted text below to be taken there.
http://s1.zetaboards.com/TheStormRavenLibrary/forum/256092/
They include a small mod to learn on as well as instructions on getting the mod into the game. Start with #1 and go through them in order, it should take less than a half hour. The mod I use is as simple as I could make it. It doesn't need anything else to work and should work with any version of Oblivion. After you get it to work, you can throw it out as it has no effect on the game or any other mods. It's only purpose is to see if you did it right.
Let us know what happens.
More info on using Vista
Quoted from the Oblivion Mods FAQ WIKI
Using VISTA only: If you have downloaded and installed, and the mod is appearing in your Data Files List, but not in your game. Then you should reinstall Oblivion into a different directory instead of the default.
Installing mods on a Windows Vista system is bit trickier than it is on Windows XP due to Vista's increased security.
For best results, it is recommended to install Oblivion to a location other than the default C:\Program Files\ folder. Another location such as C:\Oblivion\ or D:\games\Oblivion\ will work better. This will avoid the file permission problems many users have experienced due to the increased security restrictions Vista places on the Program Files folder.
Wiki entry on installing Oblivion in Vista: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/Windows_Vista
If you can't, or just don't want to reinstall Oblivion try this.
Vista users may have to disable a security function known as UAC. If you have downloaded and installed, and the mod is appearing in your Data Files List, but not in your game check to see if UAC is turned on. If so. Look here for instructions on how to turn it off. http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vis...-windows-vista/
If i uninstall the game and re install it again will i lose my saves (do i have to start from the beginning)
I have a reinstall procedure that shows how to save all of your saved games when you reinstall.
When you uninstall Oblivion it doesn't really uninstall everything. Then when you start adding mods before you have started the game, some things may not get initialized properly. Here is my recommended procedure for uninstalling and reinstalling.
It does not remove your mods, save games or Oblivion.ini or the entries that the original installation of Oblivion placed in your Windows registry. It also does not remove helper programs such as OBSE, OBMM, Wrye Bash, The construction set or any other programs you have installed in the \Oblivion folder or the save game folder. I recommend that you go ahead and delete them, then re download and install the latest version of them again later. After you have verified that the game works.
Note, If you have Wrye Bash, be sure to back it up as the wrye site has been down for the last several days.
I would appreciate any feedback on this as it is something I expect to post often and I hate to give bogus or useless information.
Uninstalling Oblivion
My instructions assume you are using Windows XP and have installed Oblivion into the default location. If you are using Vista or Linux, the file locations may be different, however, the procedure will be thae same.
For a full reinstall, first you can try to preserve your mods and save games. I recommend that you save them in a new folder with a new name. Create the new folder in C:\Program files\Bethesda Softeworks. Name it Old Files. So it will be C:\Program Files\Bethesda softworks\Old files.
Then copy the data folder where your mods are to the new folder - do not erase them, copy them. And in the new folder, rename the \data folder to \olddata. Then copy and rename the folder that has your saved games and Oblivion.ini, C:\documents and settings\your user name\my documents\My Games\oblivion to something like \My games\Old Oblivion - this saves your saved games and the oblivion.ini file.
Then, using the original CD, NOT the Launcher on your Hard drive. Select uninstall.
After it completes the uninstall, reboot your computer - this is important as it allows Windows to remove some references to the original Oblivion.
This would be the time to erase all of the helper programs you have in the \Oblivion folder. Such as OBMM, OBSE and some others. The simplest way is to delete the folder completely. The new install will re create the folder for you along with a fresh oblivion.ini and when you start the game and make a save, a new save folder and new \data folder.
This would also be a good time to do a file clean up.
To remove the registry entries that were left behind. There are several good programs for removing left behind entries. The one I use is ccleaner. Be sure to reboot before using it, and again after. It is free and available here: http://majorgeeks.com/download4191.html
Now that everything is cleaned up, do a full defrag on your hard drive to leave a large uncluttered area to reinstall to. This prevents your game from installing in a fragmented way, with parts scattered all over the drive. It also will speed up the install a little.
Now to Reinstall.
Again using the original CD, install Oblivion.
NOTE: If you are using Vista, DO NOT install to the default directory. Instead make a new directory I recommend C:\Games. Install Oblivion there to avoid the hassle with Vista UAC blocking mods.
Before adding any mods, patches, helper programs, Shivering Isles or anything else, start the game and make a save. This initializes some stuff that needs to be initialized.
If you are using the Game of the Year version of Oblivion you should not need any patches, skip the patching part.
Now, If you DO NOT use Shivering Isles, patch the game using ONLY the latest Oblivion patch. All of the stuff from the earlier patches is included.
Be sure you use the proper language patch. If you use the wrong one it may work, but with a strange mixture of languages. (Germanglish?) Or it may crash.
NOTE: there are two English Patches UK & US and they are different. (Some people actually think we speak the same language) Use the one that matches your original disk.
If you use Shivering Isles, Install it now. DO NOT install the Oblivion patch. Install Shivering Isles, then ONLY the latest Shivering Isles patch. All of the updates for Oblivion are included. There is only one Shivering Isles patch for both US & UK English (Maybe sometimes we do speak the same language.)
Now, again start the game, make sure it looks right, move around a little to test it, and make a save. Test to be sure everything is working right (No purple objects or yellow blocks)
Before adding any mods, back up both your \data folder and the save game folder. Copy them, don't move or rename them, to a different folder - such as \Bethesda\Clean Oblivion\data and \Bethesda\clean Oblivion\saves. Note that this is a different folder than the one used for your old data and saves.
Note, Your Oblivion.ini file is in the same folder, but separate from, the save game folder.
Now, if you want to try to run with your old mods, first rename the original folders. The \data folder to \newdata and the \oldata back to \data. this restores all of your mods. You should now have 2 data folders \data, and \newdata in your \oblivion folder
To restore your original saves and ini file, rename the new My Games\Oblivion to something like \New Oblivion. and the \Old oblivion to \oblivion - this restores all of your saved games and your original Oblivion.ini file.
DO NOT erase the files you renamed. These are your backup files in case the original mods do not work or give you the same problem.
If you have the same problem, it is most likely caused by a mod. However, you now have a clean install to fall back on. You can rename the files back to what they were and be back to your clean install without having to reinstall again.
Sounds like lots of work, but you will have a clean install and a back up clean install when you are finished.
Post your comments here: http://s1.zetaboards.com/TheStormRavenLibrary/forum/236320/
When you uninstall Oblivion it doesn't really uninstall everything. Then when you start adding mods before you have started the game, some things may not get initialized properly. Here is my recommended procedure for uninstalling and reinstalling.
It does not remove your mods, save games or Oblivion.ini or the entries that the original installation of Oblivion placed in your Windows registry. It also does not remove helper programs such as OBSE, OBMM, Wrye Bash, The construction set or any other programs you have installed in the \Oblivion folder or the save game folder. I recommend that you go ahead and delete them, then re download and install the latest version of them again later. After you have verified that the game works.
Note, If you have Wrye Bash, be sure to back it up as the wrye site has been down for the last several days.
I would appreciate any feedback on this as it is something I expect to post often and I hate to give bogus or useless information.
Uninstalling Oblivion
My instructions assume you are using Windows XP and have installed Oblivion into the default location. If you are using Vista or Linux, the file locations may be different, however, the procedure will be thae same.
For a full reinstall, first you can try to preserve your mods and save games. I recommend that you save them in a new folder with a new name. Create the new folder in C:\Program files\Bethesda Softeworks. Name it Old Files. So it will be C:\Program Files\Bethesda softworks\Old files.
Then copy the data folder where your mods are to the new folder - do not erase them, copy them. And in the new folder, rename the \data folder to \olddata. Then copy and rename the folder that has your saved games and Oblivion.ini, C:\documents and settings\your user name\my documents\My Games\oblivion to something like \My games\Old Oblivion - this saves your saved games and the oblivion.ini file.
Then, using the original CD, NOT the Launcher on your Hard drive. Select uninstall.
After it completes the uninstall, reboot your computer - this is important as it allows Windows to remove some references to the original Oblivion.
This would be the time to erase all of the helper programs you have in the \Oblivion folder. Such as OBMM, OBSE and some others. The simplest way is to delete the folder completely. The new install will re create the folder for you along with a fresh oblivion.ini and when you start the game and make a save, a new save folder and new \data folder.
This would also be a good time to do a file clean up.
To remove the registry entries that were left behind. There are several good programs for removing left behind entries. The one I use is ccleaner. Be sure to reboot before using it, and again after. It is free and available here: http://majorgeeks.com/download4191.html
Now that everything is cleaned up, do a full defrag on your hard drive to leave a large uncluttered area to reinstall to. This prevents your game from installing in a fragmented way, with parts scattered all over the drive. It also will speed up the install a little.
Now to Reinstall.
Again using the original CD, install Oblivion.
NOTE: If you are using Vista, DO NOT install to the default directory. Instead make a new directory I recommend C:\Games. Install Oblivion there to avoid the hassle with Vista UAC blocking mods.
Before adding any mods, patches, helper programs, Shivering Isles or anything else, start the game and make a save. This initializes some stuff that needs to be initialized.
If you are using the Game of the Year version of Oblivion you should not need any patches, skip the patching part.
Now, If you DO NOT use Shivering Isles, patch the game using ONLY the latest Oblivion patch. All of the stuff from the earlier patches is included.
Be sure you use the proper language patch. If you use the wrong one it may work, but with a strange mixture of languages. (Germanglish?) Or it may crash.
NOTE: there are two English Patches UK & US and they are different. (Some people actually think we speak the same language) Use the one that matches your original disk.
If you use Shivering Isles, Install it now. DO NOT install the Oblivion patch. Install Shivering Isles, then ONLY the latest Shivering Isles patch. All of the updates for Oblivion are included. There is only one Shivering Isles patch for both US & UK English (Maybe sometimes we do speak the same language.)
Now, again start the game, make sure it looks right, move around a little to test it, and make a save. Test to be sure everything is working right (No purple objects or yellow blocks)
Before adding any mods, back up both your \data folder and the save game folder. Copy them, don't move or rename them, to a different folder - such as \Bethesda\Clean Oblivion\data and \Bethesda\clean Oblivion\saves. Note that this is a different folder than the one used for your old data and saves.
Note, Your Oblivion.ini file is in the same folder, but separate from, the save game folder.
Now, if you want to try to run with your old mods, first rename the original folders. The \data folder to \newdata and the \oldata back to \data. this restores all of your mods. You should now have 2 data folders \data, and \newdata in your \oblivion folder
To restore your original saves and ini file, rename the new My Games\Oblivion to something like \New Oblivion. and the \Old oblivion to \oblivion - this restores all of your saved games and your original Oblivion.ini file.
DO NOT erase the files you renamed. These are your backup files in case the original mods do not work or give you the same problem.
If you have the same problem, it is most likely caused by a mod. However, you now have a clean install to fall back on. You can rename the files back to what they were and be back to your clean install without having to reinstall again.
Sounds like lots of work, but you will have a clean install and a back up clean install when you are finished.
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how can i find C:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data where do i need to clik and stuff the game was re install in the original place
C:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data Is computer shorthand giving the directions on where to look. what it means is:
Open my computer on your desktop.
click on C:\ - this is your hard drive
it will open a new window showing a list of folders on the C:\ drive.
Click on program Files
Click on Bethesda Softworks - any games made by Bethesda will be installed here
Click on Oblivion - this is the Oblivion Game folder
click on Data, this is the data folder where your mods will be installed.
The actual mods will have a .esp suffix, like modxyz.esp. would be the name of a mod called modxyz
There may be other files and folders in the data folder, but you don't need to worry about them until after you have gone through the help files I gave you.. The mod you want has a meshes folder that we will have to deal with then.
Open my computer on your desktop.
click on C:\ - this is your hard drive
it will open a new window showing a list of folders on the C:\ drive.
Click on program Files
Click on Bethesda Softworks - any games made by Bethesda will be installed here
Click on Oblivion - this is the Oblivion Game folder
click on Data, this is the data folder where your mods will be installed.
The actual mods will have a .esp suffix, like modxyz.esp. would be the name of a mod called modxyz
There may be other files and folders in the data folder, but you don't need to worry about them until after you have gone through the help files I gave you.. The mod you want has a meshes folder that we will have to deal with then.
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