Who else is playing it? Awesome game full of fun and cheap jump-frights. Great for the people who like the idea of going through 28 Days Later with 3 other friends

I played untill recently and am deleting it now. Yeah, it's great and really fun, but I'm not sure if I should buy it or not(played the demo). I think that after some matches(and I had severals), it becomes quite boring. I remember the last match I played, we were so bored that we went back to where you enter the subway and just killed as much zombies as possible(including a witch). Zombie Panic is offering a similar gameplay but is more interesting imo.

I'd say it's worth it even if you play each campaign only once. After that there's always versus mode where up to 4 others can play the roles of the super-zombies, which should easily give you more play time than most modern games. I enjoy Zombie Panic (Source) a lot too, and like how much it has changed since it was first released. Version 1.0 was a very different game to the Zombie Panic now, and it has changed for the better I think.

One of my AI survivors glitched playing through the first campaign- after calling the rescue chopper, he parked himself on top of a HVAC unit and refused to budge even after the chopper got there. I couldn't leave the chopper because it was being surrounded by Tanks, so I had to wait until a Smoker caused him to expire... by which time everyone but me was dead because only I had the presence of mind to stand on the opposite side of the chopper from all the bad nastiness. It was mildly annoying because I'd managed to get everyone through to that point unscathed- then lost all three of the others because one of them got stuck. Valve being Valve, I'm sure that sort of thing will be patched soon enough, and until then I can deal with it.

Other than that, I had a blast- but then again, I love pretty much any opportunity to commit zombicide. I also played and enjoyed Zombie Panic, but IMHO this captures the awesomeness of the zombie horde much, much better. I've already latched onto my two favorite weapons- the Hunting Rifle (modeled after the Ruger Mini-14, which I happen to own one of IRL) and the Pipe Bomb- but I'm fairly certain that the Pipe Bomb is destined to become one of almost everybody's favorite weapons; it's just too awesome not to.

One little detail I'm particularly fond of is reloading- it has bugged me for many, many years that reloading a partial magazine would cause the player character to chamber the weapon... not so here. Apparently somebody at Valve (possibly one of the people they absorbed from Turtle Rock) finally realized that, unless you've completely run dry, you still have a round in the chamber. The only time you'll see your character rack in a new round is when you actually empty the mag. That adds a nice touch of realism to the gunplay (despite the inherent unrealism of zombies, being able to take multiple bullets and not die, etc). Now if only they'd add in a ironsight-view for all of the non-scoped weapons, I'd be a very happy camper indeed.

A "Steam" game? Sorry, not interested.

Well, a zombie game sound interesting but as soon as I saw that it required a "Steam" account, the interest dropped off the charts.

EDIT: Yes, I know all about games delivered via the Steam system. I bought Half-Life 2 when it released. I did not appreciate that system whatsoever. I do NOT care to login to their server to let them watch me play a single-player game. Absurd.

LHammonds

lol, I got over it once a friend gave me the Orange Box as a present.

But I once read something about a game being developed called Zombie Island. It's the working title and afaik, the pc is a guy who crash landed on an island full of zombies. His wife was also in the plane and now he has to find her. Also, it's not by steam^^. But I didn't hear about it in ages...

...Ah, sorry, it's not Zombie Island, but Dead Island. Here a wiki

To be honest Steam is something that grows on you with use. With the advent of "always on" broadband, and its quite wide-spread adoption in most of the UK it's really a non-issue. If you're always on, it really doesn't matter if you need to be on the internet or not. Half-Life 2 was a 2004 game, a lot has changed on Steam in that time. It's a much better platform now and is great if you have a lot of gaming friends.

Do you still have to login to play single-player games? If so, that is still a DRM technology I won't support. It only takes one time for you to get burned by a company that employs this kind of DRM. There are several examples of companies shutting down their servers and letting their customers rot who purchased items that require those servers. It could be the best game in the entire world and I will have nothing to do with it if the company uses a DRM that requires "external" checks before it will work.

Sorry to put a damper on such a cool-looking game. I'll shut up and go away now. Just ignore this 'ol fart and fun.

Yes and no I'd say, you can save your login data, so you don't have to type your password over and over again. Also, steam game are also offline playable now. When logging in w/o internet connection, steam will ask you to retry or to stay offline.

I have no idea Lon because I just got used to Steam automatically logging in on system startup and not having to worry about it, although I'm pretty sure it is possible even without "hax". I know there's plenty of "hax" you can use to play single-player without Steam, that I have no problem endorsing when you've actually paid for the product.

Left 4 Dead is mostly a multiplayer game anyway (4-player co-op), so you'll need to be online as it is. I mean, there is single-player, but I tend to think it defeats the point of the game if you play it single-player, especially when they do a great job of matching you up with 3 random people if you can't find 3 friends to play with.

Similarly, this game is great even on laggy internet connections due to its mindless indulgence of "spray and pray" shooting. I was playing with a 200ms ping last night with very little change in playing style, something I appreciate. Although I predict when I try and play some Counter-Strike now my aim will be terrible!

You only have to to log in once, to activate the game, and from then on you can play in the "off-line mode" of Steam.

so is L4D worth a buy? i played the demo wasnt really pleased but maybe .. the further lvl are better then in the demo?

If you didn't like the demo, even in Versus mode, then don't buy the game. It's much of the same stuff really.

well im not a fan for multiplayer but the co op story modus with random ppl was quit funny
i just hoped the lvl and story becomes more interesting .. oh well i guess i w8 a bit

There isn't a story, the campaigns aren't even linked. I was very disappointed by that. While I understand jumping on the zombie movie cliche of there being very little background or developing story, not linking the campaigns seems like a complete waste to me. The only thing that helps to advanced the story is reading the walls in the safe rooms where people who have used the room before you have written little exerpts for you to read; I really like reading them; a bit like how the story the guy tells in 28 Days Later about being at a packed Heathrow full of people trying to leave the country when some zombies attacked. That was probably the most chilling part of the film, and wasn't even realised visually.

If you're playing the game for a story then don't bother. But if you have 4 or 8 friends then get them all on board, it's brilliant to play co-op in the campaigns or to play versus mode, which is a blast!

what no story? i read some where that valve create games who are like movies.. now thats a big disappoint for me
i allways loved half life for the story and how you play the game as an hero ( i dont care about freedom, be good or be bad guy etc)
if i want to play a zombie game i play a halflife mod =.=
guess i w8 till the game get cheaper =P anyway thanks for ur infos dark

Wired Review

Ugh, blog reviews. Nothing more useless to me than reviews written on user preference, invariably by people stuck in the past. That review is no exception; he wants old-school zombies from old-school zombie flicks and some how doesn't like the super infected. Similarly he wants a single-player game from a co-op game. Steer clear of judging the game based on that very biased personal perspective.

This one seems to have a lot less personal bias at Wired.

LHammonds have a point. Intrusive DRM practice is condemnable if not for another reason than getting over and over on the privacy, through total control of the hardware (and software) and eventually, ourselves.

I can't rely on the: "We can but will not do it" promises.

PS: Next time someone tell you about "Trustworthy Computing" ask him (and yourself): trustworthy for "Who"?

PS2. Just a touch of humor (about Windows XP WGA):
consumer to MS support guy - What is that advantage in WGA to me? I could find none...
support guy answer - Where is said it is advantage for the user?

Vista is yet worse with it's advanced Palladium project (TC) ... but this is ways off topic already.

I'm getting my copy on the 6th of December, maybe we can play together

Getting my copy after christmas when I can (hopefully) afford it. Nexus Forums standard users vs moderators match anyone?

to play offline you have to be able to play online.... which is completley stupid.

Official Left 4 dead reviews

In my opinion Left 4 dead is awesome every online match is intense and single player is different every time. I have it for the Xbox 360 and it's unbelievable, especially when your playing with people you know.
I'm not to sure about it for the PC. But I don't believe it's that different from the 360. I would suggest to anyone to buy this game.
Some of the moments I have had with my friends are hilarious and unforgettable, and the zombies are crazy.

On the PC with max settings, highest resolution, forced extras, and an HD LCD 40" Philips TV for a monitor, the graphics are so dated it's incredible this game released so far after the Source engine was invented. Valve strings everything out for the last penny.


After buying it and playing it night and day for two days... I've noticed that Versus is really the only mode receiving traffic. Coop, what the game was originally intended for, is almost useless unless you know the people you're playing with. There's no time to chat to each other, and no reason too. Very simplified design, either play the game, or gtf off Steam. No real communication, no real team based tactics, just run and blast everything like it was a speedrun game and leave your team mates to fight the swarms and tanks without you. It's kind of a shame really.

yeah im ordering man , legit copy cost me around 120.33$ gonna wait cuz my brother aint back from overseas so yeah if i had this game by the tomorow i play with you guys , well yeah im not sure the point of the game but ill have that game tomorrow if any of you want to play up with me im down with it pm me all the way be my friend im a great team member trust me im good spotting enemies etc my eyes can see miles away and im a good spotter even if i died at the team death match i still assist you guys with points im pretty resourceable teammates i wont let you down , by tomorrow i should have it cuz my brother just got back from china and he bought me some plenty of games i wanna play with plus the legit copy on china are cheaper

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I came across this game and absolutely loved it. Im a big resident evil fan, cause I basically grew up with the games and movies... But this just puts the nonstop action into the game which resident evil, silent hill, or any real zombie game hasn't. Saying this game is the best zombie game doesn't give it enough credit. Its awesome.

Sometimes, it even has the thrill that F.E.A.R. gave you when playing it... (Yes, when I was playing FEAR i actually jumped from some of the stuff... more than once!) I loved that game.

So far I haven't encountered anything that has scared me like those games in Fallout 3... but that only happens when you really get drawn into a game.

For those of you that haven't played FEAR (and not the multiplayer the actual singleplayer) YOU SHOULD!