I think the SAS. Their method is simple:

Knock everyone out with a stungrenade.

Shoot anyone with a gun.

(Complete entrance is usually completed within 4 seconds.)

*watches as terrorists nuke the obstacle course*

Terrorists win the tie.

Yeah, I vote for the terrorists. They're more likely to understand that it doesn't matter who runs the course fastest; it's more important who can take out the instructor so you can claim victory without anyone left alive to deny it.

That's right... Terrorist's anyday.

Seal teams are the bomb. Slit the other losers throats from behind...before those wimps ever knew what hit them.

Mmm.. sounds really honourable...

I say seals win

and what more honorable way to die than unexpectedly

Terrorists. Hands down.

On a cool factor, that might be different....




Oh, and wesaynothin, here's that icon:

Who would win?

Well, offhand I would say the terrorists. But the SEALs are killing machines, much more so than the terrorists. I think it would be a draw between the the SEALs and the Terrorists. Terrorists have unconventional methods of warfare and religious fanaticism on their side, whereas the SEALs have unconventional methods of warfare and sheer brutality (that is, they kill without scruples or second thought they are killing machines).

The terrorists dont necesarily need Religion on their side. mopney is important too.

What about the SAS? Is it just me!!??!!

p.s. Thanks Slaiv

Being from the states, I'd have to say the SEALs. They are experts in countless weapons, hand to hand combat included (their hands ARE weapons), as well as the training to fight in almost any terrain to name a few things. Motto= "The Only Easy Day Was Yesterday"

The SAS (special air service) are just fancy paratroopers in my opinion . Stick to your snipers britain. Motto="He Who Dares, Wins"

Terrorists are just fanatical ( <-- smokin somethin serious), which may make them seem fearless (though some may be). They aren't nearly as efficient as SEALs or SAS troopers. Maybe if there's a great number of them and they're all on speed they could take on a few SEALs or SAS. Motto= "AHHH JIHAD!"

SAS

SEALs
Uhh, that bus isn't in motion. They are just rappeling from a chinook. SWAT could do that, let alone SEALs. Here Notice the boat and helo are moving . Yes, SAS is better than most other elite forces, but they still don't compare to the SEALs IMHO. They're more versitile (SEa Air Land...) I have always thought of the SAS as a mix between a paratrooper and a SWAT trooper and thats all. Whereas SEALs are a mix of pretty much everything.

got news for ya, its all about the seals. Seals have access to alot more than you reralize and have more training than people realize. I, personaly am in the air force and knw a few seals, a very rare breed of insanity bravery and skill. One heck of a cross breed.

(and people who say terrorists are fooling themselves)

usualy by the time you are a full fledged eal you are around a 3rd or 4th degree black belt in savat, cant forget that little fact.

Well then, I've been misinformed. I apologize to any SAS troopers who may have been offended... Though I still hold my standing that the SEALs are better, my respect for the SAS went up a few notches.

And Acrid, I agree, those standards are screwed up. Immensely. 1.5 mile run in less than 11 1/2 minutes.... - I just looked at the site, and if i'm looking at the same thing you are those are the requirements to be considered for training if I'm right. Thats what it looks like but I'm not sure. Thats pretty sad either way...even wearing boots...

I remember in boot camp I tried out the seal test just to see what it was like, I wasn't actualy trying to become one. I ran and did crazy up and down body droping exercises, and then we went swimming. Keep in mind this was just for the basic requirments. Sure you might meet all those standards, but when you do them all over and over and over and nobody cares about the standards you don't stop until they tell you, then it's hard. I did fine until the swimming part, I guess I would be a Navy al. If they did eccept me I would of turned it down. I am a creative person, a seal life is not for me. But the standard navy req's are higher than that site really. Even though I never did seal training, navy boot camp will push you to your limits just the same, at least when I went, now it's all tennis shoes and walking between battle stations, wussies.
Oh BTW, anyone that want to join the military in search of becoming a spec op, make sure you are perfectly healthy, have no social life because a special warfare group becomes your new social life, make sure you are not the artistic type you will be in hell, you must be able to put your self in the state of mind that you are a living weapon, and not subject to the laws of human limits, in other words you must be a psychopath.
I hear SAS boot camp is so hard people often die in the training. Thats no biggy, sombody died when I in bootcamp, his mother died, and he got to take leave for the funral(sp?) then they made him come back, he hung himself.
We forgot the Russian Spetnaz, I hear thier tough.

Edit*I knew I spelled Psychopath wrong, and I call my self a American.

Well, if there was no MAD [Mutually Assured Destruction], then Terrorists would win.

Other than that, I would have to say Seals.

What about the Green Beret or Rangers?

The Discovery Channel recently (and repeatedly) ran a show about SEALs covering BUDs and all other aspects of their training. I know the SAS is really good, so I'm sure it would be a tie...but damn...BUD's is insane. Tying people up and throwing them in the water so that they can undo the bindings, swim down to the bottom of the pool, find goggles, pick something up and get up to the surface is retarded hard. Yeah, the SAS invented that head-first rapple from a chopper (very cool) but do they have to sit in freezing water for hours, lug rafts that weigh hundreds of pounds out of the water, back in again and then f---ing paddle out?

Yeah, the Spetznaz used to be badass too, don't know about now though. Man its cool to talk like I know something after watching some TV. Any SEAL or SAS trooper could rip off my head and show my dead body to my still living head before I even knew what happened. Glad they work for us.

to quote one former SBS member I know...


"when the US army needs something impossible done, they call in the special forces. When they want something something impossible done properly, they ask the UK to get the SAS and SBS to do it"

says it all the SAS leaves the Seals looking like a bunch of ballet dancers who can't do a thing. which is scary given compared to anyone else the Seals are elites.

Suz.

Oh, blatantly the SAS in my opinion. They've got quite a reputation for simply being the hardest people on the face of the planet. I think they've got around a hundred members, and when they perform an operation, its clean and 99% of the time they won't lose a single man.

White Wolf - Yeah, saw that documentary as well, it was a bit scary. I like the theory that people with absolutely no regard for their own life are most likely to survive in a firefight, based on that guy who got the Cross for single-handedly taking out 3 German bunkers with hand grenades. I think I'd probably curl up and cower in a corner as well!

Ember.

(Reluctantly heading back to dissertation duties...........)

Terrorists definetly win. They have more immagination and they use rather unique methods... like a plane and some knives to capture it. But the other two groups always use the same methods and are therefore predictably, but terrorists have to learn to be unpredictable and that is why they will win in the end. And I also think in reality they will get the upper hand. You can not lead a war against such an enemy. They can not be destroyed.

I voted SAS but i think that it would be close.

The terrorists are willing to die and don't care too much for anything but they lack training, technology and firepower----> they lose.

The SEALs are damned good but compared to the SAS? ---> all the gear, no idea

SAS maybe aren't as armed to the teeth as the SEALs but remember that they are all veterans of this and that and they are trained beyond belief.