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sembay
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hello. sorry my english.

I have few Idea for modders :

1. See you eating and drinking
2. See you bathing (for bath mod).
3. hear your voice while talking

thanks anybody

and Bethesda for Oblivion
AnonymousThirdParty
Oh well, his english is better than my japanese.

I do back one of his ideas, hearing your voice when you talk! Telepathy just isn't a good excuse for silence!
ihateregisteringeverywhere
Does the comunity even have voice actors good and patient enough to do all those lines for all those different races?

Does anyone even have enough webspace and bandwidth to host those 2-3 additional gigs of data?
myrmaad
If you must hear your PlayerCharacter's voice, you can create a duplicate of your "self" and have a conversation with the duplicate.

Then you can kill your 'self' because this is the most unnecessary mod I can think of.
WTF.
sembay
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Konnen sie deutch ? Oder Japanese, oder eine anderen Language. İch glaube nicht.

Die Welt ist nich ABD !!!!

UND JETZT

Pardon Me ? I AM NOT SORY MY ENLISH

Sooooo HEAR YOU????

And not his, her please !! I am a Woman.

I speak 6 Language.

Have You any 2. Language ????

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Thanks Talos


jaysus
whatever anata-wa parlez willst... ni shue shizophrenic ma?
sembay
Hello

Shizophrenic ?
Yes I am.

I am a Germany.

My Grand grand Father is Hittler

Please !! We talking about Oblivion. Not about English, or Japanese, or.............

If you must say 'Oh Well, his engish better my Japanise' ?

I am not a modder. I can't.

'Hear your Voice' is a bad Idea. OK.

Give you any information other Idea.

Or, please give you your new Idea.

A new topic 'Idea for Modders' is a bed Idea. ??

OK. Ignore
UK47
I think that make a mods Hear your Voice is a bad Idea but See you eating and drinking
See you bathing (for bath mod) and I add see you open door is nice idea

but I am not good in script angry.gif
myrmaad
QUOTE(UK47 @ Oct 22 2008, 01:03 PM) *
I think that make a mods Hear your Voice is a bad Idea but See you eating and drinking
See you bathing (for bath mod) and I add see you open door is nice idea

but I am not good in script angry.gif


Yes these others are nice, something like this one:
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16005
jaysus
hey dude ich empfehl dir mal ganz schleunigst nen neuen ton anzugewöhnen sonst ist deine forum präsenz bald zu ende... son kindischen mist wie ich bin der enkel vom addi braucht keiner... nix für ungut aber hier ham sich alle lieb und das soll auch so bleiben...


----------------translation for mods cause i know its the borderline next to a strike but i felt it was necessary to say...

hey dude i recommend that you change your attitude or your time here might come to an early end...
noone needs such a childish crap like im the grandson of adolf... no hard feelings but in here everybody is nice to each other and thats meant to stay that way
gandalftw
She is a woman not a dude and i can see how she might have felt ridiculed.Being related to Hitler is an accident of birth not a choice.She
may have used that reference to more accurately portray that she is German and not Japanese.
In the beginning she said that she was sorry for her English and just wanted to share some ideas.
She got them across quite well,in fact.Too bad that she couldn't have been treated a little kinder for taking the risk of trying to communicate with those of another language.

I would like to hear my character speak as well.Perhaps today it isn't doable but who knows what the future brings.


Schizophrenics happen to be good people with an unfortunate mental disorder not of their doing.

Peace sembay i like your ideas.
myrmaad
QUOTE(gandalftw @ Oct 22 2008, 02:30 PM) *
She is a woman not a dude and i can see how she might have felt ridiculed.Being related to Hitler is an accident of birth not a choice.She
may have used that reference to more accurately portray that she is German and not Japanese.
In the beginning she said that she was sorry for her English and just wanted to share some ideas.
She got them across quite well,in fact.Too bad that she couldn't have been treated a little kinder for taking the risk of trying to communicate with those of another language.

I would like to hear my character speak as well.Perhaps today it isn't doable but who knows what the future brings.


Schizophrenics happen to be good people with an unfortunate mental disorder not of their doing.

Peace sembay i like your ideas.


But you can hear your character speak. And it's quite interesting to do it, because you get to see how your character relates to other NPCs, by using the create duplicate method. I've done it. My character's main attribute is Personality, so I was delighted when I duplicated her and was able to experience interacting with her, hearing her voice. But other than that, this mod, in my opinion, would be labor intensive for very little payoff. It would be a momentary gimmick that would quickly lose it's luster.

I rarely interfere in some of these mod wish lists that I think are a waste of time, but this I hear over and over and really think it's beyond it's cost/benefit.
bben46
Lighten up people! Give her a break. This is supposed to be a friendly site about Tes mods, not about someone's language skills.

First, English is not her native language. Think how you might sound trying to communicate in German.

Second, I saw sarcasm in the post that was reported, That is a form of humor. Not an attack on anything or anyone.

Bben, Moderator.
gandalftw
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But you can hear your character speak. And it's quite interesting to do it, because you get to see how your character relates to other NPCs, by using the create duplicate method. I've done it. My character's main attribute is Personality, so I was delighted when I duplicated her and was able to experience interacting with her, hearing her voice. But other than that, this mod, in my opinion, would be labor intensive for very little payoff. It would be a momentary gimmick that would quickly lose it's luster.

I rarely interfere in some of these mod wish lists that I think are a waste of time, but this I hear over and over and really think it's beyond it's cost/benefit.


I'm going to have to try that,i talk to myself a lot anyway lol.Will try it tonight,i knew about the cheat but hadn't imagined that you could talk to yourself. I don't know, but it would seem that the file size alone would be rather large not to mention the processor power that would be needed.I did once think that it would be cool,that when an npc commented on a skill you could have a retort ready for them such as,you haven't seen anything yet or mind your own business when told that you look sneaky and what have you been up to.I smell death,well take a bath.lol
Yes i bet that the wish lists do sometimes seem naive and repetitive as well.I'm pretty naive about what is possible myself.
I just felt bad for her and i'm sure due to the language barrier she was confused by the intentions of what was being said.
One,probably,naive thought i've had is that it's too bad that some kind of translation program couldn't be used for those of other languages.Programs i've found,tho,are not very accurate.Especially if some words are misspelled.Ah well,accurate communication is even difficult when we speak the same language. laugh.gif

bben46
Re: Translation programs. I tried Bablefish and it garbled the meaning while giving a fairly literal translation of the words. It can handle some common idioms though. The translation programs will get better, but it will take some time to get nuances such as various types of humor to translate properly.

Babelfish German translation

Betr.: Übersetzungsprogramme. Ich versuchte Bablefish und es verstümmelte die Bedeutung beim Geben einer ziemlich wörtlichen Übersetzung der Wörter. Es kann einige allgemeine Idiome zwar behandeln. Die Übersetzungsprogramme verbessern sich, aber es dauert einige Zeit, Nuancen wie verschiedene Arten der Stimmung zu erhalten, richtig zu übersetzen.

Same phrase back to English through Babelfish

RH: Translation programs. I tried Bablefish and it garbled the meaning while giving A fairly literally translation OF the words. It CAN acts some common idioms though. The translation programs wants GET more better, but it wants take some time ton of GET of nuances searches as various type OF humor ton translate properly.

Close, but still not quite there yet.
gandalftw
Wieder: Übersetzungsprogramme. Ich versuchte Bablefish und es entstellte die Bedeutung, während es eine ganz wörtliche Übersetzung der Wörter gab. Es kann aber einige gewöhnliche Redewendungen handhaben. Die Übersetzungsprogramme werden besser werden, aber es wird etwas Zeit brauchen, Nuance zu bekommen


Again: Translation programs. I tried, the meaning disfigured Bablefish and it while there was a quite literal translation of the words. However, it can handle some usual figures of speech. The translation programs will become better

I usually use Lec but it appears Bablefish is much better or at least in this instance.Lec above.

If my comment about Schizophrenics was considered sarcastic,it wasn't my intention.I've worked with people with mental disabilities including Schizophrenia and it's really not a funny condition.What i said was my way of giving an accurate description of how i see those with Schizophrenia.
There very well could be people with that condition visiting this site.Joking about someones disability is the same,to me,as joking about someones race or nationality or sexual preference i just find it an unfortunate choice for humor.Believe me i understand that we are all different and that habits are hard to break but if kindness is truly the goal then sensitivity to others might be employed to more fully express that goal.Just my opinion.
UK47
QUOTE(myrmaad @ Oct 22 2008, 05:17 PM) *
QUOTE(UK47 @ Oct 22 2008, 01:03 PM) *
I think that make a mods Hear your Voice is a bad Idea but See you eating and drinking
See you bathing (for bath mod) and I add see you open door is nice idea

but I am not good in script angry.gif


Yes these others are nice, something like this one:
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16005

thank you but I use already this mod (very good BTW)
I have always want a See you open door and chest See you eating and drinking too but See you open door and chest much more smile.gif

for mods Hear your Voice is bad idea because
for example this mod is for argonien and I am Nord wacko.gif make a mods for all race is very very very very hard ( make 100000 sound for all race no.gif )
jaysus
wow babel really improved since i last read somin from it lol...

everyone is shizo... just depends on how deep you dive into the other personalities... (youre someone else if with friends, at work, with your mom, etc... freud goes even deeper into this but hes not free of critique thus i let it out)

was meant as a joke critique regarding the post in english and german (both crippled btw thus i doubt shes even german) where she attacked the former posters regarding their inability to speak more than english thus the 4 languages used... 5

her last post insulted me as a german to some extend as she made that remark about hitler (mind the single T), and talking about him here in the wrong context might even get you in jail (ya censorship rules i know)... joking bout him is common under friends but in public its kinda unwelcome as it makes everyone feel unpleasant for reasons to be looked for in the education system and each years cycle of the same annoying stories how nasty he was (do you repeat each year how custer decimated the indians? or carter the commies? or the cia the asians? the a-bomb and firebombs japan? i doubt it)....

as to spoken dialogue by the pc... this is absolutely irrelevant, first cause you just read what hes about to say and thus 90% would prolly just click on anyway if not totaly stoned, second because of the amount of spoken dialogue needed which of course would also never have the same quality as the vanilla lines due to the limited access to sufficent recording equipment and 3rd due to the incredible amount of data needed (ihate was right about a few gigabyte)

the other ideas were all realized yet
UK47
go mmmpld make See you open door and chest eating and drinking mod = Many kudos banana.gif
myrmaad
QUOTE(UK47 @ Oct 22 2008, 05:47 PM) *
QUOTE(myrmaad @ Oct 22 2008, 05:17 PM) *
QUOTE(UK47 @ Oct 22 2008, 01:03 PM) *
I think that make a mods Hear your Voice is a bad Idea but See you eating and drinking
See you bathing (for bath mod) and I add see you open door is nice idea

but I am not good in script angry.gif


Yes these others are nice, something like this one:
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16005

thank you but I use already this mod (very good BTW)
I have always want a See you open door and chest See you eating and drinking too but See you open door and chest much more smile.gif

for mods Hear your Voice is bad idea because
for example this mod is for argonien and I am Nord wacko.gif make a mods for all race is very very very very hard ( make 100000 sound for all race no.gif )


Why don't you stay in third person? That option is always open, and allows you to watch your character at all times. Have you tried other third person games? I used to play Tomb Raider for years and years and years. The last few years, the camera follows our Heroine in such a way that it's annoying as hell. I loved the old TR games from the late 90s best, a sentimental favorite I treasure. I have every TR game ever made for every platform ever made.
UK47
QUOTE(myrmaad @ Oct 22 2008, 09:53 PM) *
QUOTE(UK47 @ Oct 22 2008, 05:47 PM) *
QUOTE(myrmaad @ Oct 22 2008, 05:17 PM) *
QUOTE(UK47 @ Oct 22 2008, 01:03 PM) *
I think that make a mods Hear your Voice is a bad Idea but See you eating and drinking
See you bathing (for bath mod) and I add see you open door is nice idea

but I am not good in script angry.gif


Yes these others are nice, something like this one:
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16005

thank you but I use already this mod (very good BTW)
I have always want a See you open door and chest See you eating and drinking too but See you open door and chest much more smile.gif

for mods Hear your Voice is bad idea because
for example this mod is for argonien and I am Nord wacko.gif make a mods for all race is very very very very hard ( make 100000 sound for all race no.gif )


Why don't you stay in third person? That option is always open, and allows you to watch your character at all times. Have you tried other third person games? I used to play Tomb Raider for years and years and years. The last few years, the camera follows our Heroine in such a way that it's annoying as hell. I loved the old TR games from the late 90s best, a sentimental favorite I treasure. I have every TR game ever made for every platform ever made.


Yes I would like See you open door and chest mods for third person of course

I have play 5 TR games not bad but I like much more RPG
gandalftw
QUOTE(jaysus @ Oct 22 2008, 09:50 PM) *
wow babel really improved since i last read somin from it lol...

everyone is shizo... just depends on how deep you dive into the other personalities... (youre someone else if with friends, at work, with your mom, etc... freud goes even deeper into this but hes not free of critique thus i let it out)

was meant as a joke critique regarding the post in english and german (both crippled btw thus i doubt shes even german) where she attacked the former posters regarding their inability to speak more than english thus the 4 languages used... 5

her last post insulted me as a german to some extend as she made that remark about hitler (mind the single T), and talking about him here in the wrong context might even get you in jail (ya censorship rules i know)... joking bout him is common under friends but in public its kinda unwelcome as it makes everyone feel unpleasant for reasons to be looked for in the education system and each years cycle of the same annoying stories how nasty he was (do you repeat each year how custer decimated the indians? or carter the commies? or the cia the asians? the a-bomb and firebombs japan? i doubt it)....

as to spoken dialogue by the pc... this is absolutely irrelevant, first cause you just read what hes about to say and thus 90% would prolly just click on anyway if not totaly stoned, second because of the amount of spoken dialogue needed which of course would also never have the same quality as the vanilla lines due to the limited access to sufficent recording equipment and 3rd due to the incredible amount of data needed (ihate was right about a few gigabyte)

the other ideas were all realized yet

With all due respect you are confusing schizophrenia with dissociative identity disorder (DID).It's common for people to confuse the two.
People with schizophrenia experience hallucinations and delusions.They hear voices.They usually have extremely irrational belief systems.Their hallucinations can seem frighteningly real to them and can be quite debilitating.People with DID may hear voices but they attribute them to their other identities.They can function better in society because of these identities.However some with DID have a much harder time of it for the identities that they aren't aware of can interfere with their sense of time (periods of blackouts) and can make life frustrating.
Freud is known as the father of psychoanalysis but there are very few Freudian Psychologists or Psychiatrists today.Psychology has moved far beyond Freudian theory.I was more interested in Carl G.Jung's theories on dream symbols and dream interpretation.Synchronicity was another of Jungs where he attempts to explain meaningful coincidences by the postulation of a collective unconscious.
I can only imagine how the stories of Hitler frustrates the German people.I can only speak for myself but i don't associate Hitler with Germany,I associate him with humanities struggle for freedom from people like him and there have been plenty.
Regarding Custer and his ilk, there is plenty of criticism in America over the treatment of Native peoples.Plan to honor Tribes who defeated Custer.I for one am not proud of my countries behavior in this instance nor the others you mentioned.Japans sneak attack on Pearl Harbor tho did require an extreme reaction.Was it too extreme?To my mind it was,too many innocents killed but my knowledge is limited by the belief that all war is irrational.
I understand what you mean about a mod to allow spoken dialogue but GTA San Andreas comes to mind,of course it was part of the original game, where the pc could answer npcs comments either negatively or positively,not much to it but i enjoyed that feature.
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