QUOTE(Vagrant0 @ Aug 18 2008, 10:55 PM)

Honest comments ahead... Take with a grain of sugar if needed;
The song took too long to get started, too much ambiance and sound effects at the end, couldn't tell what style it was or anything for several seconds, longer than most would care to wait. It's one thing if releasing an album and having one track lead into the other, it's another thing if it's a standalone track. The first 15 seconds or so just sound like nothing. After that, you introduced a bit of a melody, but the sound seemed a bit too unrefined, the additional sound effects and scales in the background made it hard to focus on the melody, and as a result made it hard to enjoy the piece. The melody itself seemed a bit too repititious at times, relying on everything else around it to distract the listener. All in all, it just doesn't really work too great.
As a first piece, it's about average, there have certainly been worse attempts out there, but this should be seen more as a starting point for learning and improving than any sort of finished piece. Don't get too attached to what is said, take both the good and bad comments, and use them to get better.
I first off want to thank you for the criticism. It does mean a lot. I'll address each point that you made.
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The song took too long to get started, too much ambiance and sound effects at the end, couldn't tell what style it was or anything for several seconds, longer than most would care to wait. It's one thing if releasing an album and having one track lead into the other, it's another thing if it's a standalone track.
That's what I would do if I was releasing an album, however that doesn't really work on myspace. If you look at my influences on the page, you'll see that some of my favorite bands are Muse and Radiohead. They both (Radiohead moreso) do a lot of ambient noises in their music, and I guess it rubbed off on me.
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additional sound effects and scales in the background made it hard to focus on the melody, and as a result made it hard to enjoy the piece. The melody itself seemed a bit too repititious at times, relying on everything else around it to distract the listener. All in all, it just doesn't really work too great.
I don't know what you mean by "scales in the backround". I'm guessing you mean the part with the strumming guitar using phaser with the piano part. I wasn't able to get the volume equally mixed for those two parts (Going back to the whole "recording amateur thing), which is probably why. I have to disagree with that last statement in this quote. I don't use effects to distract people, I use them to add on to it. I would go as far to say that there isn't a singular "melody", but that's just my opinion.
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As a first piece, it's about average, there have certainly been worse attempts out there, but this should be seen more as a starting point for learning and improving than any sort of finished piece. Don't get too attached to what is said, take both the good and bad comments, and use them to get better.
This is far from my first song.
I guses I forgot to mention that this isn't "attention-grabbing" music. It's music to have on in the backround while you just veg. I again thank you for your crits, but it seems to me that it's the just the style of this music that you aren't too big on.