First off Hello all,

Main problem is this: while doing Dragonsong Tuts I found that allthough he says "In land edit (grid on) just click the desired point and raise or lower." my TES (with and without disk) won't let me grab the terrain. I have been moding on a few things like a new MASSIVE dungeon but I realized I want to go BIGGER and Land is the only way. may post for scripting help later for the quests and such if I ever get that far.... .

Talking Mucho Grande! any response is appreciated I can't help the feeling that I am just a complete Newb :lol: :angry:

Ok, your problem may be that you have the option Soften Vertices on. I'm not sure what you mean by "grid on" though. Oh, by the way, Dragonsong is a she not a he.

Well if it's some kind of island you try to make, it can be very difficult see what's actually happens. Try to practice a littel on Seyda Neen, or somewhere else above watherlevel. ( just don't save )
Else make sure you got flatten/soften verticels of, got the red circel where you want to raise/lower, then press LMB and hold it down, while moving the mouse.
That should do it.

Actually, it's not that hard to see what happens.