How common is it that 4-6 bandits will be together in one spot running into each other in a cave? The past 2 dungeons I've entered its happened at almost every set of bandits, they run into each other then talk amongst themselves say goodbye but continue to run into each other. This makes sneak attacks incredibly hard to get off, has this happened to anyone else? does it sound like its conflicting with another mod?

Fairly often since OOO is about hardening the play, not to easy the player's life. Although OOO is highly configurable this isn't something anyone can try without getting through tons of documentation and good understanding the way it works.

Other way, several mods were developed to help sneak characters, like eliminating the automatic spot all creatures get when one is attacked, even if they couldn't know it. They would eventually give up searching for the player if he/she manages to keep hidden from them, although suspicious for a longer timer after being attacked... and so on.

alright, yeah I knew it was to make the game harder and I love that I can walk into a dungeon and get eaten alive. I just hadn't seen the bandits all huddled up together like that since I started playing and the whole thing with them walking into one another I just wasn't sure if it was a glitch or not.

heh, if I wanted sneaking to be too easy I would just revert back to vanilla, it's a wee bit boring that way though

Thanks for the input

The vanilla sneaking system in Oblivion isn't that good, those mods adds a big deal of immersion without turning it "easy". The suggestion was actually a suggestion you search them if you are going to play a stealthy character

heh heh thanks, I started out as a stealthy/blade/destro/resto mixture the stealth part is fading away a little its working well though, the 6 at a time adds some strategy to the mix so I think I'll leave it how it is. I'll defiantly check out the mods though