I installed some armor mods and animation mods and the gorier blood mod and now oblivion will not start up on either OBSE loader or the game launcher it goes to black and comes back the desk top with out an error message or any thing.

I would appreciate it if someone could help me.

Sounds like it could be missing masters. Make sure you've installed all the ESM files that came with your mods, and double check they're turned on.

If you're using OBMM, you can sort by active, and double check really quickly.

That's a place to start anyway.

I did that and i tryed to start it on the obse loader but this time it actually got to the bethesda screen in the start up. Then it closed out just like before.

did it crash? if so have you made a file hiddin?

im just saying this because i had this but i find out i made Appucation data hiddin so half my games didnt start

Carth Onasi

Hidden?

I cant get it to start it always crashes but it does not even give me an error message

as in going into propties and and makeing a file hiddin or privite

Carth Onasi

I checked and the Data none of it is hidden

right sorry i cant think of anything else have My Docs? ( check if anything is hiddin?

Carth Onasi

First thing's first post your load order. Usually when you get insta crashes like this it's because an esp calling on data that doesn't exist, that is why Myrmaad said it sounded like missing masters. Just post your load order and we'll go from there.

the load order was

MehrunesDagonOutfit
Banes_Guilds_United
Ghogiels_Armor_1_5
FrostAtronachArmor
Holgars_Barbarian_Outfitter
Cryos_Ordinator_Lite_v1.2-11035
Deadly_Reflex_-_Breat...Sway_v1_11-15777
Akatosh_Mount_By_Saiden_Storm_R19-10819

(I just used the particals texture because i downloaded it before and forgot to put that in so the dragons had no texture in the fire, ice, electric, ... breath)

Mountainlion_animation-17795
MANLYSTRIDE101-17437
PersonalityIdles4-14280
dD_Gorier_Blood_11


I know i should have tested the game in between the mods but i kinda lost my self for a little bit and when i finaly did and it would not work i could not figure it out.

You don't say if you are using OBMM or not. If so, check for mod conflicts.

I would suspect a conflict between the animation mods, It's possible two use the same resources.

First, try disabling all of the new mods you put in. If that doesn't work, try disabling all mods.

the real load order of my game is

Oblivion.esm
HorseCombatMaster
Amamentarium.esm
boat.esp
CT-ArgonianHeastyles.esm
MOM-OpenCities.esp
BarbarianShop.esp
Oscuro,s_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp
KDDwemerSpectacles.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
M.O.E.-Levitation Magic
Nords With Beards.esp
Tharanthiel_Boar_Mount.esp
Tharanthiel_Deer_Mount.esp
Waves.esp
Deadly Reflex - Timed Block no other changes.esp
Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp
Cryos Ordinator Lite.esp
AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp
AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp
AliveWaters.esp
Mounted_Spellcasting Deadly Reflex Compatible.esp
Phys Taps Teaser Imperial Arena_Merchants Inn.esp
TFF FantasyFigures_Base.esp
MrSiikasBatsforOOO.esp
SkyCastle.esp
M.O.E.- Main Quest Delayer.esp
BWs Argonian Hair.esp
MrSiika's Foxes.esp
TFF_Race_Base.esp
MrSiika'sFarmAnimals.esp
TFF_Armor_Base.esp
TFF_Clothing_Base.esp
ArmamentariumTest.esp
ArmamentariumVendors.esp
DeadlyReflex - Combat Moves.esp
OBForcePush.esp
JJR'sWihskers and Eyebrows.esp
TFF & ROBERT & Slof's Better Beasts.esp
MidasSpells.esp
mr_Siikas_MerchantShip.esp
Deadly Reflex - Breathing Motion & Head Bobbing.esp
Deadly Reflex Bow Sway.esp
Hel Borne's Chitin Armor Weapons.esp
mrSiikas_rocks_test.esp
Ghogiels Armor.esp
mrSiikas_Dwemer Technology_DwemerSubway.esp
MannimarcoRevisited.esp
Banes Guilds United.esp
ArgonianFeets.esp
mrSiikas_PrehistoricAnimals.esp
tk HairPack01.esp
seph dule wield.esp

your right it is probably the breathing animation or bow sway thanks

the only thing in your load order that really pops out at me is this:

AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp
AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp
AliveWaters.esp

the addons rely on the main esp and loading them before it would cause an insta crash. Other than that, unless I overlooked something, everything seems to be in order (no pun intended).

Worm, I noticed he doesn't have any of the Unofficial Patches. Based upon your experience with mods, do you think that what he has loaded-in could be aggravating a known bug that has been fixed by the Unofficials?

Also, given what he's running, would you recommend using FCOM Helper to load-order? I'm thinking that would be a good idea. I use it extensively.