Now, don't get me wrong: in its time, I quite enjoyed seeing Spambane get swung. When moderators get itchy trigger-fingers, that just makes it all the more fun. In fact, the brief glimmer of hope that old-school MWSource--style public bannings would make a comeback had me excited about this site for the first time since September 2007. However, even I think that the current state of affairs is just ridiculous.
To the unaware, I'm referring to the new "one and done" policy. This policy allows and instructs moderators to ban any member that gives an Oblivion mod a rating of 1, whether intentional or accidental. People are getting banned left and right because of it. Furthermore, the reason for the ban is always given as "trolling" (which doesn't insult the bannee so much as it does me).
Now, why does the option to give a mod a rating of 1 exist if exercising it results in an instant ban? It would be more reasonable to eliminate 1 from the rating system altogether and make 2 the lowest possible rating one could give to a mod. Better yet, you could make it such that the only possible ratings are 7, 8, 9, and 10. That would surely appease modders while keeping member bannings to a minimum.
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at one point i thought pes only allowed you to rate 5 and up.. i didn't realize you had to scroll the drop window, was all. why worry about it? i don't see you voting someone's work a 1 anytime soon. most of all your reference about the moderators mistake is quite rude, it was taken care of as it was a simple misunderstanding..
imo, if you're going to vote 1 on someone's file, knowing it is the worste rating, you are kind of disrespectful, wouldn't you agree?
imo, if you're going to vote 1 on someone's file, knowing it is the worste rating, you are kind of disrespectful, wouldn't you agree?
Well it is good to see you MB.
Perhaps, this will enlighten you, as it pertains only to the main site:
However, all bans are reviewed by Dark0ne.
There also have been several reinstated as well, it is not so much that they are banned but how they respond to the ban. Of the many that have been banned, few have questioned it, those that reacted in a positive manner were immediately reinstated. As can be evidenced by this Topic today:
http://thenexusforums.com/index.php?showto...69509&view=
The others I will not mention by name, suffice it to say you only have half of the story.
Buddah
Perhaps, this will enlighten you, as it pertains only to the main site:
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This site has extremely dedicated moderating staff who have full authority to edit and delete posts as well as ban accounts instantly and without warning. However the moderating staff cannot possibly read and keep up-to-date with every single comment and rating posted on the site. It is up to you, the users of this site, to help keep this site clear of the people who just want to ruin it for everybody by reporting violations of these conditions to the moderators, either through the provided reporting features on the site or via forum PM to the moderating staff.
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The commenting and rating system is available on this site to provide users with:
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the ability to offer constructive criticism on aspects of the file that could be improved
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the ability to ask for help in troubleshooting problems with the file in question
If your comment does not fit in to the above criteria then do not post. If you disagree with the content of a file on the site then do not post. Simply ignore the file or report the file for moderator viewing and move on.
If your comment contains text that is likely to personally offend other users of the site either in the language you use or the message of your text then do not post. We take personal attacks very seriously.
If you believe that someone else’s post does not fit into these criteria then you are encouraged to report the comment in question for moderator review. Above all do not post in reply to the offending comment however good intentioned your post might be, even if you are the author of the file in question. This is known as “feeding the trolls” and “forum vigilantism” and is frowned upon by the moderator staff. You may well end up with a suspension from the site if you partake in this activity.
This site has extremely dedicated moderating staff who have full authority to edit and delete posts as well as ban accounts instantly and without warning. However the moderating staff cannot possibly read and keep up-to-date with every single comment and rating posted on the site. It is up to you, the users of this site, to help keep this site clear of the people who just want to ruin it for everybody by reporting violations of these conditions to the moderators, either through the provided reporting features on the site or via forum PM to the moderating staff.
I understand these terms and conditions for commenting, and that breaking them will result in my account being banned on this site
However, all bans are reviewed by Dark0ne.
There also have been several reinstated as well, it is not so much that they are banned but how they respond to the ban. Of the many that have been banned, few have questioned it, those that reacted in a positive manner were immediately reinstated. As can be evidenced by this Topic today:
http://thenexusforums.com/index.php?showto...69509&view=
The others I will not mention by name, suffice it to say you only have half of the story.
Buddah
QUOTE(Marxist ßastard @ Aug 3 2008, 07:20 PM) 
Now, don't get me wrong: in its time, I quite enjoyed seeing Spambane get swung. When moderators get itchy trigger-fingers, that just makes it all the more fun. In fact, the brief glimmer of hope that old-school MWSource--style public bannings would make a comeback had me excited about this site for the first time since September 2007. However, even I think that the current state of affairs is just ridiculous.
To the unaware, I'm referring to the new "one and done" policy. This policy allows and instructs moderators to ban any member that gives an Oblivion mod a rating of 1, whether intentional or accidental. People are getting banned left and right because of it. Furthermore, the reason for the ban is always given as "trolling" (which doesn't insult the bannee so much as it does me).
Now, why does the option to give a mod a rating of 1 exist if exercising it results in an instant ban? It would be more reasonable to eliminate 1 from the rating system altogether and make 2 the lowest possible rating one could give to a mod. Better yet, you could make it such that the only possible ratings are 7, 8, 9, and 10. That would surely appease modders while keeping member bannings to a minimum.
To the unaware, I'm referring to the new "one and done" policy. This policy allows and instructs moderators to ban any member that gives an Oblivion mod a rating of 1, whether intentional or accidental. People are getting banned left and right because of it. Furthermore, the reason for the ban is always given as "trolling" (which doesn't insult the bannee so much as it does me).
Now, why does the option to give a mod a rating of 1 exist if exercising it results in an instant ban? It would be more reasonable to eliminate 1 from the rating system altogether and make 2 the lowest possible rating one could give to a mod. Better yet, you could make it such that the only possible ratings are 7, 8, 9, and 10. That would surely appease modders while keeping member bannings to a minimum.
I have to agree with MarxistBastard here. People ARE getting banned A LOT more often now that the new rules are in effect. But hey, I've never even heard of most of the people on that list, so it doesn't really matter to me. The accounts could have possibly been made for that exact purpose. Do you IP ban them, or just Account Ban them?
We are not necessarily banning more, but the bannings are now made public with a link to the post the resulted in the banning. If we tell you what will get you banned, you know exactly what is unacceptable.
Buddah
Buddah
QUOTE(Marxist ßastard @ Aug 3 2008, 07:20 PM)
This policy allows and instructs moderators to ban any member that gives an Oblivion mod a rating of 1, whether intentional or accidental.
Wrong. Rating a mod a 1 does not get you banned. You have NO CLUE how many 1-votes I've removed without following it up with a ban even after the new ToC was put into effect.The whole point of the new ToC is that the forum "3-strikes your out" system simply does not apply to the files section. Why? Because people frequenting the forums generally try to "fit" in with the community and will amend their ways if it is pointed out that their behavior is inappropriate. Not so for those making vicious attacks via the comment / rating system on TESNexus. Many of the offenders banned are those with new accounts who signed up just to make an offensive post. It has also been our experience that if somebody goes so far as to personally attack other members, they won't stop if given a chance and will use those "extra" chances to cause even more problems.
I've also seen members that go on a rampage creating offensive post after post and the only way to handle it is to ban the user to avoid having to clean up a ton of posts made by him/her.
I can go on and on with many more examples but some offenses simply do not get 2nd chances anymore...specifically personal attacks.
The community as a whole is one of the nicest I've seen online and it only takes a handful of spiteful people to change that and I am all for putting a stop to the few that think being polite is not necessary on the Internet...specifically TESNexus. This new ToC helps allows the sheriffs to carry around .45 caliber 6-guns rather than straws and spit wads.
Oh, and yes, we are trying to create a public post for each member banned. We were not doing that on a regular basis but we figure it is best that it be known and visible that action is being taken.
LHammonds (Moderator)
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In fact, the brief glimmer of hope that old-school MWSource--style public bannings would make a comeback had me excited about this site for the first time since September 2007.
You had me spitting out my morning tea with that comment. You really crack me up sometimes.
As for the topic; the recent changes have been put in place to ensure people who are just coming on the site to crap all over people's work are shown the door quickly. It removes all the bureaucracy of the three-strikes and you're out system before they can do more damage and give the moderating team more clean-up work. The terms are very clear and everyone has to agree to them before they can comment on TESNexus.
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