Chesto
Jul 24 2008, 02:50 PM
I've just started role playing in an online game. I have found it both liberating, and quite daunting, emotionally, at the same time. In this particular game, Age of Conan, there are may different servers, most of which are devoted to PVP play, with just a few open to RP-PVP, and even less - like, one- for RP-PVE, which is where i find myself.
While I'm the type of person who likes to amble along smelling the flowers, as it were, most of the people that I come across, even on the RP-PVE server, tend to keep their heads down and concentrate on levelling up, gaining experience points. I've seen plenty of debate about it on the Conan forums, with the usual argument being that people just want to get through the early tutorial stage and then they might start really roleplaying.
Seems to me that there is a flaw in that sort of logic. Why choose to inhabit a world - a very attractive world in the case of Conan - and then choose to ignore the wonderful ambience one finds oneself in? And miss out on the opportunity to get stuck in meeting, and interacting with, other human beings from the git go. At any one time while i'm playing, i'm the only one who knows that there is an elephant in the local pub, just as a for instance. Just what magical transformation do people think is going to take place that will make them suddenly good at RP'ing when they are 'out ' in the greater game world?
I was just curious as to how other folks who play these kinds of games go about it.
Aerin Morth
Jul 24 2008, 03:23 PM
My answer probably won't matter much, since I only play online games when I go to my friend's house, but I like to concentrate on leveling up first, and once I'm not in danger of being killed by a stray rat, I slow down and start adventuring more.
For most of the tutorial I just run around completing quests, and maybe gathering a party of fellow adventurers. Once I'm out of the tutorial, however, I like to just explore, even though it's dangerous with all the annoying creatures wandering around.
Really, I tend to use roleplaying in games like Oblivion, and sometimes when playing a co-op with my brother on Warcraft III or a game like that.
Chesto
Jul 24 2008, 04:07 PM
sorry, Aerin, for being vague..but are you playing conan? Or are we talking about online rp games in general? And never think that your answer doesnt matter much. The post count to this thread just went up 100% because of you! Hah.
Aerin Morth
Jul 24 2008, 04:26 PM
No, I don't play Conan. I play Lord Of The Rings Online at my friends house. My parents refuse to pay for a monthly subscription game like that, so I can't play online games at my own house.
Chesto
Jul 24 2008, 07:46 PM
QUOTE(Aerin Morth @ Jul 24 2008, 05:26 PM)

No, I don't play Conan. I play Lord Of The Rings Online at my friends house. My parents refuse to pay for a monthly subscription game like that, so I can't play online games at my own house.
Aerin... here's a little roleplay for ya: behave in such a way that your parents will insist on you spending more time at home, and will be willing to bribe you with the price of a monthly sub to online game of your choice. Oh...wait a minute...you already do. Are your parents just not paying attention , or what? <laughing out loud gif >.
Aerin Morth
Jul 24 2008, 08:25 PM
QUOTE(Chesto @ Jul 24 2008, 07:46 PM)

Aerin... here's a little roleplay for ya: behave in such a way that your parents will insist on you spending more time at home, and will be willing to bribe you with the price of a monthly sub to online game of your choice. Oh...wait a minute...you already do. Are your parents just not paying attention , or what? <laughing out loud gif >.
I already tried bribing them. They won't do it. So that's why I play it at my friend's house.
Chesto
Jul 25 2008, 04:53 AM
Aerin...your being ostensibly under your parents thumb would suggest to me that you might not be old enough to play Conan anyway. Though that doesnt seem to have stopped a lot of people ive come across already. Pity that you cant. The RP server needs in yer face anarchic people like you! At least here in the UK.
Mostly i seem to come across little boys who are playing as skinny big chested girls, and who have no idea of how to roleplay, other than to try to stab me with what ever weapon they're wielding at that moment. Which is doubly pathetic because it's a PVE server in which you cant harm other pc players. At least i have the consolation of not being stabbed by 'male' toons.
I think that most people get onto a RP site, and then sort of freeze. They just cannot seem to make the leap required of them to get with the character they have created.
I can understand that in the context of being asked to do something in public, in life. I myself suffer terribly from 'stage fright'. But, as i indicated in my original post, this whole RP, as an annonymous person, online, is quite liberating, if people would only give it a chance.
BTW, Aerin... am enjoying this semi-private chat room we have set up here. How many posts can we do before someone breaks in, do you think? ( did someone just throw down a challenge? )
Aerin Morth
Jul 25 2008, 03:52 PM
Guessing my age now, are you? Well, you're a hell of a lot closer than other people have been.
Even if I was allowed to play Conan, I wouldn't, because it's a sexual and violent game, and I much prefer running around with little Hobbit boys.
I've been roleplaying for a long time, but online games just aren't my thing. LOTRO is probably the only online game I'd like to play.
You suffer from stage fright? I don't. Never have. I've been in several plays, and I've only frozen up a few times. I agree with you, though. Talking to people online instead of face-to-face is easier than it is in real life. You can say what you want to say without worrying about what other people might think.
The gauntlet has been thrown down. Cheesiest line ever. If someone intrudes, we can kick them out with our awesomeness.
Chesto
Jul 25 2008, 04:07 PM
Well Aerin...when you get as jaded as i am, hobbits just dont cut it anymore. Hah. And something tells me that we arent actually supposed to discourage people from posting to threads. Would be a novel thread starter's technique, though, i'll give you that.
Even tho, as you say, Conan has its blood and sexual content ( btw, doesnt Oblivion? ) the sex thing can be entirely ignored, as it is just suggestive plot lines...well, so far. Many people are really into the lore of the stories behind Conan, just as some are about Tamriel lore. Mutli level stuff going on.
I, being rather dim, and lazy, am pretty well into the sex and violence. So far...i'm doing just fine at the violence.
Cheesiest line ever? Sounds like you got an idea for your own thread, there, Aerin.
Aerin Morth
Jul 25 2008, 04:36 PM
But when hobbits give you presents so you can buy a big house, then it's nice. Silly hobbits. Elf girls would never date little men like that.
Oblivion has blood, but it can be moderated to a degree. The sexual content in Oblivion is pretty much integrated through mods, unless you find running around in cardboard underwear sexually appealing.
I don't make threads, I kill them before they even have a chance to start. Poor, poor me. The best topic I ever had was when I created an 'I hate you' game topic on a different site. That one was relatively popular. Me and some friends bashed on the newbies hard.
Good times.
Chesto
Jul 25 2008, 07:58 PM
oh, ha ha, an 'I hate you' thread, and...you bashed the newbies...hard...ha ha...ha ha ha...<whispers: is there any body else there... anybody at all...?>
Aerin, you would be surprised how many tall, languid women go for little men with hairy toes. Being neither, i dont get it myself. But i think that money is very attractive on little men. And as to Oblivion's cardboard underwear, you just have to wait for the rains. Then that stuff just disintegrates. And that can be sexy.
I am now officially 3/4s asleep. If you're still there ,Aerin, i leave this thread in your capable hands until sometime tommorrow. Oh yeah... just work the words ' role' and 'play' into a sentence now and then. Just for form's sake,of course. Ciao.
Aerin Morth
Jul 25 2008, 08:32 PM
Yep, those poor newbies didn't know what hit them. I was in a group of older members who despised the large amount of new and inexperienced members joining the site. I used to hang out in the restricted age forums since my account was so old, and I used to go in the spam forums a lot. I wasn't anywhere near the caliber of the gang who ruled the place, but I was among the cooler members. I quit that site, though, it bored me to tears towards the end.
I would never go for a short guy with hairy toes. I'm fairly tall, and I don't want to bend over to kiss a guy. Oh yes, disintegrating underwear sounds very sexy. Almost as sexy as the clipping issues I was having yesterday that causing my character's butt to stick through her clothing.
I'm always 3/4s asleep. I call it zombie mode, it happens a lot in the summer with nothing to do.
I like roleplaying. There, now this post is on topic.
Chesto
Jul 25 2008, 08:52 PM
...got chatting to somebody...and completely forgot to log out. You're doing well holding down the fort. Dont bite anybody. This thread is not insured against bites. Now am 9/10s asleep..and going. Ciao,again. Role and Play. there.
dezdimona
Jul 25 2008, 10:29 PM
wow,this is the first time I think I've ever seen someone de-rail their own topic...cool!
Chesto
Jul 26 2008, 04:50 AM
QUOTE(dezdimona @ Jul 25 2008, 11:29 PM)

wow,this is the first time I think I've ever seen someone de-rail their own topic...cool!
How dare you, dezi! How could you possibly suggest such a thing. Aerin and i have been scrupulous in our adherence to the rules of ...ah... thingy.
This thread, for the more subtly minded ( and really d, i thot you were one

) has been nothing but role play! Two people of vastly disparate ages, and probably outlooks on life, and probably genders, stuck in a room. One of them begging for help...quietly. The other one happily raconteuring about the mayhem she causes almost everywhere she goes. And having such a charmingly innocent delight in her work. How could it not be about roleplay, dez!?
Aerin, i have often wondered that modders dont make more of the clipping thingy. Or maybe they do, and im too stoopid to know this. Currently, in conan, my char is a rather large bottomed female, and she has no end of clipping issues. Even the most ...uh...cannot think of the word: the direct opposite of sexy and suggestive - garment ends up flashing. As to never going for short guys with hairy toes...never say never. When they're rich short etc, all of a sudden they might get very attractive.
Aerin Morth
Jul 26 2008, 06:13 AM
Yes, we're following the rules, aren't we? Role play. Completely on topic.
Chesto, are you suggesting that I'm a walking hurricane? How rude, and entirely true.
I would probably never go for a guy just because he's rich or famous or has a really nice car or some such thing. That doesn't matter to me, personality matters so much more.
I hate, hate, hate clipping issues. Especially with hair, because you can see it in any screenshots most of the time. Grr. Stupid clipping.
Chesto
Jul 26 2008, 06:29 AM
If, as your profile would seem to suggest, Aerin, you are in the usa...dont you ever sleep? And i wasnt suggesting that you were a hurricane. I think i was pretty well stating the fact loudly and clearly. Hah. And there you go with the 'never' again. Im at that point in life when the odds are that 'never' is probably going to catch up with me sooner, rather than later. You, on the other hand, would seem to have an awful lot of 'never' stretching ahead you.
As to clipping: clipping is a wonderful device for stimulating roleplay ( see how casually i worked the magic words in there? ) in an online game. People tend to shout at your character, 'Hey , your butt is showing!'... or some other pertinent part of the anatomy. Then the conversation can begin, usually with ' Your Mutha!' So... dont be too hard on the potentials for roleplay , re clipping.
evilkoal
Jul 26 2008, 10:00 AM
ahh roleplaying...
i prefer not to roleplay on online games, mostly because i would rather pretend to be an elf with some friends than pretend to be an elf all alone in my bedroom hahahaha.
when i do roleplay though, i just tend to screw around most of the time, and level at a sloooooow pace.
Aerin Morth
Jul 26 2008, 05:28 PM
As a matter of fact, Chesto, I do sleep occasionally. It's the years of gaming that have messed up my sleeping cycle. I go to bed late and get up late.
So you're stating that I'm a hurricane? It's still true. I'm clumsy, and I like spinning in circles. Not until I throw up, though, because I did that once and it wasn't fun.
I said 'probably never' which isn't just 'never' because there's a 'probably' in front of it. So there.
Okay, so what does 'your mother' even mean? Is it supposed to be an insult? Or is it just something people say to sound stupid?
@ Evilkoal: I actually agree with you there. I find it hard to roleplay in online games, because the point is basically to just get a group together and complete quests. I roleplay mostly in single player games like Oblivion.
Chesto
Jul 26 2008, 08:26 PM
I think that its the bit that comes before ' your mutha', that is relevent to the abuse, tho i couldnt say for sure as its not a term in my everyday use. I was trying to get down with the homeys...and have been caught out. No middle class 60 year old white man should ever try to get down with the homeys. This would feature as an entry in the RolePlay Book of Donts. ...uh..what are homeys, btw.?
Sorry i missed the 'probably' there, Aerin. Was very early this am. I cant work out how anyone roleplays in a single player game. In their head?
Chesto
Jul 26 2008, 08:32 PM
So evil...you've given up on Conan, then? Pity. Cause Chesto may be rolling in the US of A, soon. Not that id tell you my game name. Now...that WOULD be in the RolePlay Book of Donts!
evilkoal
Jul 26 2008, 08:48 PM
only for the meantime... i dont have my computer (i have been using my brother's laptop) or any $$ as of right now to pay for the game, so i cant play it. when my little brother comes here, he said he will buy me a month thing so i can play with him...
if you do go to the american servers, go to bluesteel

my char will not be easy to pick out of a crowd, i will tell you that lol
Blacksnake89
Jul 27 2008, 02:16 AM
QUOTE(dezdimona @ Jul 25 2008, 02:29 PM)

wow,this is the first time I think I've ever seen someone de-rail their own topic...cool!
You've obviously never seen my topics on the WoW forums then. I make threads just to derail them, troll, flame, troll, derail, and uhm...troll.
As for the topic at hand (serious hat time) : I roleplay in World Of Warcraft often. My character is Aeil a blood elf paladin tormented by a failure in his past. Aeil was once a leader of a small group of paladins. They were ambushed and cut down leaving Aeil as the only surviver. He feels a strong connection with his clansmen and will defend them with his dying breath. I'm part of an RP heavy guild called <Tsukikage Fang> It means Moon Shadow fang, it is a mixture of my guild name and someone else’s. Our guild story is we are a group of mercinaries based out of Shadow Moon valley. Our old base was Shadowfang keep until Aurugal siezed control of it from us. We mainly RP the guild as a tight knit group of mercs that value our comrades as family. I am one of the founding members and second in command. Me, Masane, Grock, Thock, Myanmara, and Flowerhoof are the founding members that still remain along with Vykar who is the guild leader.
Our actual guild activities include group Demon hunting, World PvP with a "rival" guild, running instances, PvE raiding, and making pilgrimages to areas we've declared as sacred to our guild. We have our own guild religion as well. I convinced the founding members to make the name of one of our gods Nocturnal

(lawsuit not included). Over the last year our guild has made many decisions on were to go with our guild story as we've grown. One of our more recent story changes is the addition of divisions within the clan.
My division are the Judges. The Judges are made up of paladins and the discipline/holy priests of the guild. I hold the rank of Judge Superior. There are 3 Judge Magisters below me and the rest are labeled different kinds of Judge based on their skills. The Judges are bound by a code of honor and have sworn to protect their clansmen and those too weak to defend themselves. They follow the teachings of The Moon. Next are The
Inquisitors, lead by Grand Inquisitor
Shisou (Shadows of Death) they are our fearsome stealth force consisting of Rogues mainly assassination or subtlety, Feral Druids, and Marksman Hunters. The inquisitors are ruthless killers and superb scouts, they excell at information gathering and assassination. They follow teachings of the Shadow. Next are the
Ravagers, they are our heavy combat specialists. Consisting of Warriors, Survivalist Hunters, Beast Master Hunters, Combat Rogues, Enhancement Shamans, and Retribution Paladins who don't feel they fit in with the honor bound code of the Judges. These fearsome commandoes are lead by the mighty brothers Grock and Thock. The Ravagers are powerful warriors concerned with gaining glory through combat. They are fearless, merciless, and ruthless preferring brute force to take down their opponents. They follow the teachings of the Twilight. Next are the
Twilight's Hand Lead by the members of the
Black Hand Vykar, Masane, and Nornalman. Twilight's Hand reach out with a destructive force. Consisting of Warlocks, Subtlety rogues, Shadow Priests, and Mages of any kind (mostly frost some fire 1 arcane). Twilight's Hand are vicious, twisted and truly worthy of the title insane, members of Twilight's Hand are sadistic to their enemies and delight in bringing pain. They follow the teachings of Shadow. Lastly there are the
Children of Llolith lead by Flowerhoof. The children of Llolith are made up of any healing class that wish to be known as healers. They are the most "good" of the clan. They follow the teachings of the moon.
Another of our other recent changes is relationships within the guild. Friendly, brotherly (non family), loving, romantic, protector/protected, friendly rival, rival etc. This was something that for the most part was already implemented but it is now assigned based on previous interaction, guild standing, clan, division, and character temperaments. IE we wouldn't have a member of the Children of Lloth being the protector of a member of the Judges or Ravagers. Currently Aeil is protector of Shalari a member of the Inquisitors and a fairly new recruit. Under the decision of Masane herself Aeil has a protector/romantic relationship with Masane. Aeil is also a close comrade of Shisou and as such the Judges have a close kinship with the Inquisitors, a friendly rivalry with the Ravagers and a disliking for the methods employed by Twilight's Hand (rivalry). Vykar has a brotherly relationship with Thock and the two divisions work together closely. Flowerhoof has a fondness for Aeil so the Children of Llolith work closely with the Judges to accomplish their common goals. She also has a close friendly relationship with Grommock one of the mid ranking officers of the Ravagers and the two divisions work together to complete their goals. The Children of Llolith however dislike the teaching of the Shadow and try not to work with Inquisitors or Twilight's Hand if they don't have to. There are several other relationships between the other members but I decided to only cover the main members. Our guild is very concerned about our reputation so we have regulations on our role playing. Mainly we try to make sure members don’t confuse reality with fiction. We make sure that people realize relationships within the guild are strictly in character and we try to discourage people from developing out of character relationships but it is allowed. We do not however allow cyber of any kind it’s just not good for our reputation and is irritating to those that don’t want to hear it. Attempts to cyber are met with immediate guild suspension and depending on how long you’ve been with us or previous interactions the leaders may discuss exile (ban). 2 attempts to cyber through the guild channels are met with an immediate and non negotiable ban.
Our guild has ranks but we also have an inner hierarchy. Vykar may be the guild master but he is not our guilds king. We have another division of the guild the royal family. the Judges act as the royal families personal guards. The members of the royal family are King Rivon, Queen Myanmara, Princess Hyako, Prince Shafan, Duke Ungolo, and a special ambassador Princess Shalari. Shalari is a blood elf character in the guild but we’ve allowed her and only her to say she’s actually a night elf. Her story is she’s an ambassador from an alliance guild called <The Rose Crusade> lead by Scarletrose. Shalari is the second in command of The Rose Crusade which is the Alliance version of our guild, the two of us are the largest role play guilds on our server. I wont go into TSC’s story. Thanks to the awesome game moderators on our server Shalari was granted her level and her gear on her horde version of her character so it’s like she really is an ambassador from the Alliance. Currently TKF are at Tempest Keep in raid progression. We have synchronized raids once a week on the Tempest Keep dungeons
The Eye, Arcatraz, Botanica, and Mechonar. We enjoy doing things as a guild and it’s a lot of fun acting like a family of mercs. You get a lot of great stories and interactions from people.
Edit: I think I got all the typoes but there could be one or two lurking here
Chesto
Jul 27 2008, 06:24 AM
evil...i presume that that is a pvp server. No, No, No. I tried pvp on Conan and was immediately ganked by creeps about 9 levels higher than me. Started a thread on the Conan forums using the main creeps name...and all the mouth breathers, and knuckle draggers came out of hibernation just to gank me there, too. No, pvp?... no thanks.
Blacksnake...! I've just realized that i havent been roleplaying at all, compared to what you've been up to. Just being myself, in another char's body. Just a slut online, basically. Hmmm...shall have to give this far more thought, i see. You wouldnt be a functionary of the Lore Police, would you?
Blacksnake89
Jul 27 2008, 11:37 PM
QUOTE(Chesto @ Jul 26 2008, 10:24 PM)

Blacksnake...! I've just realized that i havent been roleplaying at all, compared to what you've been up to. Just being myself, in another char's body. Just a slut online, basically. Hmmm...shall have to give this far more thought, i see. You wouldnt be a functionary of the Lore Police, would you?
Nope more like lore Nazi’s. Nah I kid our guild can be lenient on what your stories are for example the troll tribe you play as in WoW is the darkspear tribe. We have 5 members that say they're from the Zul'Gurub tribe and 1 that says she's an ex follower of Atta'Mai from the Zujin tribe. The blood elf paladins are all supposed to be members of the blood knights but anyone who joins the Judges must shed the ways of the blood knights because they aren't honorable. I guess you could say we're lore Nazi’s when it comes to our lore but we're not so concerned about the actual lore of warcraft. We honor the lore of warcraft to a certain extent, for instance we wont let someone join if they say their a super elite ninja from the naruto universe who ripped a whole through the dimensions and traveled to Azeroth. I had to deny someone entrance to the guild yesterday because they had that exact story. We also have an age limit to the guild. If you're under the age of 15 we keep a closer eye on you during your initiation than normal and if you're under 13 we deny you entirely. We have member age's ranging from 14-35 on average and our oldest member Atlam is 72. Atlam is the guild wise man and head of our elder counsel.
Chesto
Jul 28 2008, 07:01 AM
Black... either you have a brain the size of a planet, or you have tiny nuclear explosions going off in there. How on earth do keep track of all this stuff? I can barely remember what class i am, at any given moment.
BTW: anyone wondering whether or not a girl toon is really a boy...this stuff of Blacksnakes's is the dead give away. Though, i expect that there may be obsessive real girls, too. Oh... and discussions involving lots of number/letters.
Chesto
Jul 29 2008, 07:03 AM
Something that im starting to notice in a lot of people's RP, is that, however much they may be up on the whole lore thingy, and however much they may strive for accuracy in adhering to the lore thingy, they tend to forget how to behave in a basically 'human' way. So many times people just steamroller over the basic human reponses in their quest for lore accuracy. I put it down to 'not smelling the flowers' syndrome. Such a delight when someone responds humanely, while at the same time remaining in their chosen 'character'.
evilkoal
Jul 29 2008, 09:29 AM
QUOTE(Chesto @ Jul 27 2008, 06:24 AM)

evil...i presume that that is a pvp server. No, No, No. I tried pvp on Conan and was immediately ganked by creeps about 9 levels higher than me. Started a thread on the Conan forums using the main creeps name...and all the mouth breathers, and knuckle draggers came out of hibernation just to gank me there, too. No, pvp?... no thanks.
Blacksnake...! I've just realized that i havent been roleplaying at all, compared to what you've been up to. Just being myself, in another char's body. Just a slut online, basically. Hmmm...shall have to give this far more thought, i see. You wouldnt be a functionary of the Lore Police, would you?
yep

i love to just be able to run through a town and massacre every single person in it. (at least i only do it in my games right? haha)
people tend to get angry when you qq on pvp servers :/ but i just ignore them. i think there is a hit list somewhere on the conan forums for each server haha

ahh, the scent of blood. the feel of flesh singing and tearing beneath your fingertips. nothing can beat it.
what class are you anyways chesto?
i chose to be a herald. kinda sucks because every quest i do, i dont get anything i can use half the time hahaha
Chesto
Jul 29 2008, 05:11 PM
I seem to gravitate towards the healing profession, evil... Dont know why. Something in my nature , i spose. Though did try out Conqueror, Herald of Xotli, and Assassin... the latter two because the female armor is so much more...um...uno. Liked them, but kept going back to the Shaman and Priest ones.
So...you would have been one of the evil little b******s who ganked me, then. Fie on you and your ilk! Just you try calling for a medic next time you need one! I hate players like you, even tho im such a loving and caring person, normally.

Though, now am safe from your lot on my cumfy pve server. Hah. Just smellin the flowers, and singin a song.
Blacksnake89
Aug 1 2008, 05:27 AM
QUOTE(Chesto @ Jul 29 2008, 09:11 AM)

I seem to gravitate towards the healing profession, evil... Dont know why. Something in my nature , i spose. Though did try out Conqueror, Herald of Xotli, and Assassin... the latter two because the female armor is so much more...um...uno. Liked them, but kept going back to the Shaman and Priest ones.
So...you would have been one of the evil little b******s who ganked me, then. Fie on you and your ilk! Just you try calling for a medic next time you need one! I hate players like you, even tho im such a loving and caring person, normally.

Though, now am safe from your lot on my cumfy pve server. Hah. Just smellin the flowers, and singin a song.

I find myself most inline with stealth or tanking classes. on WoW I have 5 70's on frostwolf (PvP) and 2 on Kirin'Tor (RP).
My first character ever was a Warrior and I leveled from 1-60 protection. Next was my rogue 1-60 assassination. Next was the hunter 1-50 marksman 51-60 beast master. Then I leveled my mage 1-60 frost. Finally was my druid 1-70 feral combat.
On Kirin Tor I have Aeil my paladin 1-70 protection then I leveled my shaman 1-70 enhancment then I switched to restoration. All that time playing WoW and I only have 3 tanks and only 1 healer. My 3 most used characters are in order of most to least used Paladin, Warrior, Shaman. My warrior and paladin are both in the best PvE gear released as of now (Sunwell gear). Yes I've sunk a lot of time into this game in the last 4 years.
Edit: Oh the people labled 1-60 are ones I leveled before burning crusade expansion and all characters leveled in BC were done in the same spec they were when I re loaded them.
delphinus
Aug 1 2008, 02:02 PM
Chesto, i was deadly bored by online rpgs (or supposed to be) because i had your freaking same experience! People talking about levelling, xp, spec, best weapon ingame, made me definitely understand that i can never play a mmorpg.
I once played WoW for a couple of months, i had some fun, but i was soon soo tired of the things above that i got back to my TES games, where my character can sit in front of the fire drinking a mug of wine or take a swim in the nearby lake or sea without getting the annoying comments from people:
"wat you are doing there thers are mobs round here you play a month here and you ar still lev5"
And THIS is the reason because i STRONGLY HOPE that bethesda will NEVER convert TES into a mmorpg.
Chesto
Aug 4 2008, 02:19 AM
Ah, sorry for the tardy response. Brain a bit mushlike because of lost sleep. Anyway...
delphinus: though i have to agree that one gets an awful lot of what you described, things...well, in my game, are improving markedly now that i am out of the tutorial phase. People are starting to losen up, and , indeed, take time to smell the flowers, or go for a swim. Though, in my game , 'go for a swim' has become a euphemism for something else, entirely.
I think a lot of it comes down to what kind of person might be playing at any given time of day. Hordes of school boys charging around looking like buxom maidens, spouting stats, do not make for great roleplay. Though it is quite amusing to frighten the beejeebers out of them by exploding in their faces when they have the temerity to comment on some aspect of ones chosen life style, ingame.
And that is roleplay, jim, ... maybe just not as we know it.
delphinus
Aug 4 2008, 11:04 AM
I have taken a quick look at the game you are playing... it looks amazing. There are many things you can do and all are perfect for roleplaying. I'd like to try this one as a last hope for online rpg. But i'm a bit pessimistic that what i see on the trailers can happen really, with the "hordes of schoolboys" (LOL) running around like crazy, armed to the teeth, destroying the atmosphere of the game and the feeling of the roleplay.
You say you can ignore or even frighten them, yes, but for how long? When you are the only roleplayer among thousands poweroons, the things are a bit hard... sooner or later you will have to play with someone, and well, if you play a quest with one of THEM forget aout stopping in the middle of your trip and sit in front of the fire in a cold night! and do not even THINK about smelling a single flower!
Once i was playing with my undead witch in WoW, i had one of THEM as a companion of my team, it was a terrible experience: no one single look at the landscape, no one single pause, he didn't freakin listen to any advice or attempt of strategy. at the end i had headache.
Blacksnake89
Aug 5 2008, 07:18 AM
QUOTE(Chesto @ Jul 27 2008, 11:01 PM)

Black... either you have a brain the size of a planet, or you have tiny nuclear explosions going off in there. How on earth do keep track of all this stuff? I can barely remember what class i am, at any given moment.
BTW: anyone wondering whether or not a girl toon is really a boy...this stuff of Blacksnakes's is the dead give away. Though, i expect that there may be obsessive real girls, too. Oh... and discussions involving lots of number/letters.
Nope I actuallty have horrible short term memory I can remember random facts like mad. Oh and I don't know everything about everyone in my guild. We have over 300 people in it I only know a large amount about the high ranks and I know every Judge then again I HAVE to know the Judges since I run them. I also know people who take the time to get to know me wich is a lot since I'm the second in command. I can tell whether a girl toon is really a guy in the guild cuz we use ventillo

. I enjoy my guild because out of 300 members 167 are females IRL. We are
hard core RP so we really don't care if a guy's playing a female toon it just makes it kind of akward when they're on vent. We only have like 8 people that are guys that play female toons though.
Blacksnake89
Aug 5 2008, 07:26 AM
QUOTE(delphinus @ Aug 4 2008, 03:04 AM)

I have taken a quick look at the game you are playing... it looks amazing. There are many things you can do and all are perfect for roleplaying. I'd like to try this one as a last hope for online rpg. But i'm a bit pessimistic that what i see on the trailers can happen really, with the "hordes of schoolboys" (LOL) running around like crazy, armed to the teeth, destroying the atmosphere of the game and the feeling of the roleplay.
You say you can ignore or even frighten them, yes, but for how long? When you are the only roleplayer among thousands poweroons, the things are a bit hard... sooner or later you will have to play with someone, and well, if you play a quest with one of THEM forget aout stopping in the middle of your trip and sit in front of the fire in a cold night! and do not even THINK about smelling a single flower!
Once i was playing with my undead witch in WoW, i had one of THEM as a companion of my team, it was a terrible experience: no one single look at the landscape, no one single pause, he didn't freakin listen to any advice or attempt of strategy. at the end i had headache.
Ah undead, a good undead RPer is the funniest thing you'll find on WoW. Shisou and some other undead rogue killed an alliance the other day and they dueled to see who got to eat the corpse. Most I ever lol'd at Shisou's actions. If you find yourself on Kirin Tor wanting a guild to RP with you could apply for mine. You need to be at least level 60 to apply though.
Chesto
Aug 5 2008, 09:14 AM
Will reply soon. Am a bit too steamed at the mo to respond to anything other than with bared fangs.
EDIT: should have made clear that it was nothing on this thread which was the cause of me being steamed. Sorry, posters. C
Chesto
Aug 6 2008, 09:12 AM
Am feeling utterly stoopid and full of self loathing today. Will reply when this passes.
Chesto
Aug 7 2008, 08:38 AM
Well...that's better.
It's quite a hoot to mess with the heads of the rampaging buxom school boys. And Delph..., dont be put off by them. Just treat them as the midgees, or blackfies, or noseeums that they are. A minor irritant. There seems to be new opportunities around every corner , in Conan at least, for good rp. Some of it quite suitable for family entertainment.
Though it can get pretty dire. Was waiting off two tombstones - deaths at the hands of npcs in pve, and which lower your stats if you cant pick up your tombstone , which is always left in a convenient place for one to pick up right in the middle of the mobs who offed you - and thot i would just pop into the local pub. There was a huge party there, perhaps a guild getting together. And the conversation that one could over hear - there are different channels, some of em private - was dire, dire, dire. About 20 people talking about the weather. Looked for a way to commit suicide, but there is not an option available in Conan. Even jumping off the top floor of the building only resulted in a sprain. And dancing on a table, tho with my kit on, did not liven that party , one bit. Should have taken it off. But why would i want to entertain such a bunch of no hopers?
Blacksnake89
Aug 8 2008, 08:31 PM
Chesto
Aug 13 2008, 05:28 AM
Hey black..., while i appreciate the vids, i think they are messing up my screen, cause i can only see part of yours, and Michlo's posts. And im afraid to click on em because my monitor might blow up. Any chance of losing one or two. And posting them separately?
Chesto
Aug 13 2008, 08:43 PM
Please Blacksnake...move your utubes..please. Locking up here.
Chesto
Aug 14 2008, 08:56 AM
It seems to me that role play allows one to live in a true liberatocracy, in which one may chose to be whomever one chooses to be, and to behave in whatever way one chooses to behave. Yes, there can be conflicts, and hurt feelings. But that is a small price to pay, as long as one always maintains the distinction between rp, online, and rp in real.
A warning to those lacking affection in their real lives and who seek it in a roleplay game, online: this is fantasy; you wont find real , lasting , affection here, merely the fantasy version of it.
And, yes delphinus, the 'poweroons', a wonderful expression btw, will run you ragged if you let them. An early clue to them is that they wont bother to introduce themselves, first. And any further communication with them will be in terse messages consisting of: come; go; kill that; get that; done; etc.. They can be avoided, or used to your own advantage. Your call.