Hello, i have this REALLY annoying problem of the slow motion. i have a good amount of mods installed, yes, but i made my collection of mods in a previous installation, had a few problems (not game related), reinstalled windows, etc, you know the deal...
so i started over with ALL those mods from the begining... marts, ooo, oonas, lost spires, natural environments, open cities, gtaasgard,rens beauty pack, a few houses, some armors ,weapons, companions and so on... the usual

the thing is that i have played this character for a very LONG time (that's level 35 with mostly everything on the 100's) without a single hiccup, until recently that all of a sudden my character start moving in slow motion.... even though the jumping animation, attacking, and even power attacking or shield bashing work at expected speed... even the world around and the movement of the npcs are normal.


can someone PLEASE tell me how can i either reset the character's speed (not the skill) or point me to a patch or solution?



oh and talking about skill, i had this issues with the mmm's ghostly apparition, how long does their damage to fatigue is supposed to last? and does'nt it is supposed to reset on a chapel? how can i undo that? had the same problem with mmm's goblin assasins and health :S lucky me i found a patch that disables them.

oh, and before you suggest to load an earlier savegame, i already did, and YES it worked, until some time where the same problem appeared in some OTHER place... doing some other things totally different


suggestions?

This may sound stupid but have u accidently pressed toggle-run off so that he is walking im not trying to make you sound stupid but i have done so many times and got realy annyod this is just an idea ?

Reguards Darkninja Productions

oh no, my friend... when i say slo motion, i mean SLOOOOOOW mooooooootiooooon (with pitched down voice) wether it's running or walking. but strangely enough i decided to keep on playing like that and after a while (about a real hour) where i didnt even get to the city doors :S it suddenly disappeared.. PHEW! man that was bad! but i'm afraid it will return! since i have'nt disabled anything! now that slowmo, animation have found it's home on fires... yep... that's right, now all fires animation are slow motion. oh and display cases all take like 5 mins to open.


anyone know something? thanks though

I had a similar problem on my old machine before I upgraded my HDDs and Video card, occasionally my characters (didn't matter what one) would get "locked" in the block stance and would move REALLY Slooooooooooowwwwwwwwwww. To get out of it I would keep hitting the "draw/sheath weapon" key and "block" button multiple times, and eventually I would be freed. After I reinstalled my game on my new system I installed the proper drivers for my wireless mouse and I haven't had the problem since. I've been told that this type of anomaly including (the 1st person view jumping up and down) has to do with the wireless optical mouse reseting itself while in use. (Proper drivers and good batteries seem have fixed it for me)

Odd, I've never seen this before at all.

Try disabling all of the mods you have active and try just the game without ANY mods at all or add-ons. If that fails, turn your mods back on, and then turn the graphics down slightly.

your last post seems to point at heavily bloated savegames and/or too many items (have you something like bag of holding clone?). Yet this doesn't explain the character slow motion, however weird this may seems your problem may be related to CPU overloaded at least so much as the GPU itself.

Edit: make sure you have the last patch, some of the symptoms described are very alike the formid bug that plagued the prepatched game, mainly with SLI installed aswell.

Edit2: Maybe is advised try and identify the problem before acting. But I advise you downloading the Wrye's Bash utility so to be prepared to perform some unbloating procedure, a dangerous but sometimes the only solution.

What kind of fps are you getting on average?

And the MMM fatigue problem can be fixed by downloading the 'stat fixer' (or something along those lines) should be able to find it if you just search about, I had the same issue a while back.

ive had this happen before.... i even uninstalled the game then re installed and it still did it.. i honestly cant remeber how i fixed it though sorry dude. it happened to me when running about 4 mods so im not sure what it is.

well, that's easier said than done, with the amount of mods i have and the nature of those, mmm, ooo, origin of the mages guild, lost spires? if i even try to disable them all of a sudden, i am affraid my character would go gooey and start a killing spree across cyrodiil (not that he doesn't do just that from time to time) that is IF the game loads... i've heard about lockups when suddenly disabling even one of those big mods....not to mention all of them


now my fps... well, since i have open cities, my fps had settled in a mere 35fps (from a steady 60fps without it)
even though i have a LOT of mods, my machine is a fairly decent one (core 2 duo 2.4, 2gb ram ddr2 800, nvidia 8600gt 512, and plenty of free defragmented raid 0 hard drive space, about 200gb) besides, i also use some optimizing mods like operation optimization, an enviromental texture pack (can't remember the name) that optimizes performance, errr... that one that does pcb automatically :S , another one that optimizes the distant lod without losing objects in the distance.... and... errr... a few more i think next time i will have ready a list of the mods i use.


i know it has something to do with the mods i use, not the hardware (uh, i have no wireless mouse but thanks) but the question is which one(s) and how do they affect the game in such an odd manner, othewise i would make a patch mod myself to use at the end of the load order

oh, umm.... having too many items, huh? err.... yes i've noticed that happen a few times when opening a chest BLOATED with stuff.... such as the midas chest (what a great invention) but that lag is easyly resolved by emptying said chest and reorganizing it's contents into several other ones ( such as my main headquarters chests at the armorylab) and yes i do have a lot... and i mean a LOT of items, but even when i open some of the most err... copious? chests (such as the arrows chest) i do not experiment any lag (let alone the midas chest as it is another story)

umm, wrye bash... yes, i have it... what do i do with it? i mean.... what do you mean by "unbloating"? and exactly how "dangerous" can it get?

and...finally thank you very much flaming_gerbil. i am already searching for that patch you mentioned

bloats are items created by some mod but fails at being eliminated from the save game. They may be not even visible in the world but they are there, lurking in the shadows growing ever and ever in number until they manage to get your game crawling and eventually crashing.

Most nowadays mods are aware the problem and avoid the functions known as cause of then (like the PlaceAtMe), before the patch any game played with shivering Isles would be subject then even without mods. Some misdesigned mods can even generate then at thousands in seconds.

They tend to let the save game big and the instances of items approaching the limit number in their formid is a symptom.

Wrye Bash have a function to unbloat savegames... anyway remember this is only a possibility, maybe the issue doesn't have anything to do with bloats.

Edit: Yet the symptoms you describe are characteristic of bloats or sheer items number.

thank you nosisab, i will try that solution, even though you did not tell me how or why it was so dangerous

I had the same problem, or almost the same. I was playing and i wanted to cut someones head off (with deadly reflex), but afterwards i was still moving in slow motion. It was really annoying and i had to reload a previous save game to solve it

=========SOLUTION==============
(YAAAY!)



guys, i now know exactly what is happening to my game, and probably yours...


i (we) have been struck by a known oblivion animation bug (man!, not another one!) and it is NOT caused by any mods, or wether the game is patched or not.. bashed or bloated.... the only condition you have to meet to be hit by this annoying bug is to have over 200 game hours (which explains why loading a recent save doesn't work, but loading an old one does, or starting a new game... what it does not explain is how my character regained his... errr.... normality in exchange for bugged fires, and more recently spell effects. nor does it explain this really ODD behaviour i discovered while watching the effect.

CONTAGIOUS SLOW MOTION
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well it goes like this i was watching the odd slow fire at a camp in the middle of nowhere (north of kvatch mor precisely) when a pack of wolves appeared, of course i whipped out my sword and started slashing away... the problem started when i dodged one of the wolves and accidentally stepped on the campfire (yes, the bugged one) then i was infected by the slow motion! (i'm dead, i thought) but then the attacking wolf also treaded on the fire and was infected TOO!! and then another one!... of course i lost the battle, since a spriggan and her bear pet joined the fray, but when i reloaded i went to a well know fire, such as the arcane university entrance, that purple fire, you all know it, well i jumpt right into it, and yes... you guessed... it IS contagious.

but you didnt come here to read my story did you? yeah, i got carried on...

here's the link to the fix i found

Slow Animation Bug- usually effects saved games with over 200 hours of play time.
Contributions by Gloops & Atticus
It's a really odd bug. Cast a spell and you'll be left enveloped in a static haze of spell effect, or doors can take about 5 minutes to creak open. Everything else continues to run at normal speed. It can start at any time, usually after 200 hours, and is most noticeable when you're exploring a cave or ruin. Bethesda know about it but have been unable to fix it thus far.

Apparently, this is because the integer or something for a particluar byte in a saved game file reaches a value that is too high (anything over 40), which for some reason affects the animations. The above utility resets the value to 40, which fixes the problem. Way cool. Fortunately for PC users there's a handy utility.

oh, i've also read that the unofficial oblivion path fixes this, but, the problem is that it inserts a huge fps drop into the game!
not to mention the download size

yet another post just to add my most sincere thanks to all that contributed with ideas and possible solutions for this problem..


THANK YOU!

Really??!?!?!

really, i mean, i install it to have all the fixed textures and meshes in place, but skipping the esp which slows down everything... well, you might have noticed that i stated that i use a LOT of mods so i am rightly concerned about performance


oh, that reminds me that i promissed you guys a list of the mods i use... her it goes for your boring pleasure

Oblivion.esm
Jog_X_Mod.esm
ArmoryLab.esm
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm
HorseCombatMaster.esm
Kvatch Rebuilt.esm
Mart's Monster Mod.esm
Cybiades.esm
Open Cities Resources.esm
cssBase.esm
DLCHorseArmor.esp
SoulReaverMod.esp
Origin of the Mages Guild.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
RealisticForceLow.esp
Visually Enchanted Fire 1.esp
Visually Enchanted Frost 1.esp
Visually Enchanted Shock 1.esp
ArmoryLab-cloth-displays.esp
ArmoryLab-enter-lab2.esp
ArmoryLab-greenhouse.esp
ArmoryLab-manikins.esp
ArmoryLab-portals.esp
Castle_Dunkerlore_V1.esp
'Eagle Eye' Realistic Archery v1.0 Fixed.esp
Book Jackets Oblivion.esp
Cliff_BetterLetters.esp
thievery.esp
xulTheHeath.esp
xulAncientYews.esp
XulEntiusGorge.esp
xulAncientRedwoods.esp
xulImperialIsle.esp
xuldarkforest.esp
xulLushWoodlands.esp
xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp
xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp
xulStendarrValley.esp
xulChorrolHinterland.esp
mythsandlegends.esp
PCSoundGarrett.esp
MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp
_Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp
gardening.esp
P1DkeyChain.esp
AC_ModM701.esp
Tabaxi_Race_Robert.esp
Thieves Arsenal.esp
Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp
Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
Medium_FPSFIX_Natural_Vegetation.esp
Nightshade_Armor.esp
Living Economy.esp
OOO-ThiefGuild_Difficult.esp
OOO-Dangerous_Traps.esp
OOO-Combat_Skills_Perks_Marksmanship.esp
OOO-Deadly_Combat.esp
OOO-Magic_Effects+Spells.esp
OOO-Magic_Game_Settings.esp
OOO-Magic_Effects+Enchantments.esp
OOO-DaedraLord_Quests.esp
OOO-Potions.esp
OOO-DLT_Immersion.esp
DEJ Harvest - Flora.esp
Mart's Monster Mod.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Creature Skins.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp
MMM30_Goblin_Assassin_Fix.esp
Nascosto Isles 2.esp
Cybiades.esp
ShoweringSpells2.1.esp
undercover.esp
cssCalisto.esp
cssSafana.esp
Companion Neeshka.esp
Sonia.esp
RhiannaII.esp
Demon_Consort.esp
Oonas_Outfitters.esp
GTAesgaard.esp
The Sixth Element.esp
MMMMWL-TheHeath patch.esp
MMMMWL-RollingHills patch.esp
Unlimited Rings 1.0.esp
CybiadesDungeon.esp
Quest Award Leveling.esp
Quest Award Leveling - Finger of the Mountain.esp
Growlfs Animated Hair.esp
1AlexScorpionSneakingSuit.esp
MidasSpells.esp
Midas OscuroGems.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp
Kobu's Character Advancement System.esp
DeadlyReflex - Combat Moves.esp
Recharge Spell - Imbue Power.esp
Recharge Spell - Easy.esp
Open Cities Full.esp
OCC-ULCH-Patch.esp
Natural_Weather_HDR_with_darker_Nights_by_Max_Tael.esp
The Lost Spires.esp
LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp
LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp
Artefacts of the Ancestors.esp
Unlimited Amulets 1.0.esp
nVidia Black Screen Fix.esp (not that it really works anyway, planning to disable it)
HrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.esp

Other Mods without esp that add resources to the data folder
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(disabled) Arcane University 300 (under development for compatibility issues with origins of the mages guild)
(disabled) IWR Window light shutters - Optimized (i love it, but texian's windows is a LOT smoother)
Unofficial Oblivion Patch (i install it and disable the esp, to have the fixed meshes in place without the lag that the patch creates)
FCOM (installed but disabled due to version conflicts, i'll have to download the latest mmm and ooo)
Texian's Window Lighting System 1.0
Better Looking Horses
CleanShavedHRLA4Exnems-10971 (modified and optimized to my liking)
BrzDefinedMaleBodyReplacerV01_2-15688
Improved Facial Textures v21
P1D_LowPoly_Grass_v10
Really_Better_Tiling_Grass_1diot1-14342
Optimised_Distant_Land_MAX_1_1-15278
The_Glory_of_Cyrodiil-15914
Jarrod_Oblivion_new_texture_mod_with_patch
Cyrodiil_Terrain_Map_v25-2634
Realistic_Ragdolls_and_Force-4700
Amazing_Jump_v1_1-11449
obse_0014a
Operation_Optimization_v1.1.1-10510
and... of course Oblivion_v1.2.0416Spanish

oh yes, and the omods...
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recharge spell easy (1.2)
imbue power (1.2)

there.. that's all

you can add the rest of the unique landscapes (now i have the complete set, why didn't they just merge them?) and oblivion warcry as well as the latest ooo and mmm for fcom to work properly
still lacking francesco's and bob's armory to complete the fcom pack :S

i see you are running deadly reflex..

the other day when i as fighting.. i cutted an Npc in half.. and everything became slowmotion..

the slow motion thing did not stop until i had killed everyone and the fight was over..

could this be the same problem we where having??

damn i hate when this double post thing happens..

i've been hearing a lot of fuddling with deadly reflex recently... and even though i am using the latest version and have had no problems at all.... well, that's maybe because i do not use mounted spellcasting...

but really, i have never had a problem with deadly reflex, but if you do, then i would recommend you patch your savegame with the animation fixer i found