Okay. After a long time of fiddling with mods conflicting due to install order, I uninstalled everything and started fresh. The mods are all working better than ever. I would almost venture to say perfect.

I popped $20 for Pinnacle Game Profiler which makes the 360 controller work almost exactly like it does on the 360 version of the game. It is an awsome program and it works for more than just Oblivion.

The problem I'm having now is that I can tell Pinnacle to load OBSE, but not OBMM.

So... I guess this is a general help in this situation.

If I launch OBMM with everthing set up on it and everthing works. If I then exit and launch OBSE from Pinnacle instead, will OBMMs load order or effect still remain?

If not... Is there a mod out there that is as complete as Pinnacle, I'm not talking about the basic Oblivion.ini file edits that are severly lacking, but a true and good 360 controller mod?

Does anyone know a way to make OBMM and PINNACLE work together if OBMM does loose it's load order when launching threw Pinnacle.

Thank you for any help you guys can give.

The OBMM Launch button is supposed to launch oblivion with OBSE (If it's installed, otherwise it will just boot without OBSE).

Can you not launch the game through OBMM with Pinnacle?

Once you set the load order in OBMM you do not have to load it again until you need it for something. You can close it and start Oblivion. However, OBSE must be started before Oblivion every time.

Unfortunately I know that. I was wondering if you launch OBMM first. Quit. Then load pinnacle and launch OBSE will it retain the same load order?

If not. Is there a mod available that does the same thing as Pinnacle?

thank you bben46.