This is an interesting point. In my mind, Communism is the perfected form of Democracy (which does not work), but historical precedent stands against it. I'm not so sure about Socialism, since the Nazis were Socialists and were on the exact opposite (and yet, almost identical) ends of the political spectrum (ultra-left wing Communism and ultra-right wing Socialism).

To try and stay on topic, i recently read 1984 and was stunned by it; possibly one of the best books i've read. It eerily mirrors the past (future when it was written ) to an alarming degree.

I've been up there as well, and I've found no purpose to it.

Just listen to any politician and make notes. You can write your own that way.

You're too late, Mah Ha Ha!

*insert random conspiracy theory that the US, Russia and China are having secret negotiations to turn this planet into a 1984-kind of place*

But looking at the average US citizen we're probably too late already.

You've got to love those conspiracy nuts, eh?

I read both 1984 and Brave New World after talking with my Yr 10 English teacher, who was a slightly eccentric playwright (the best type of teachers) Brave New World is an incredibly scary book; i ask anyone who has questions about ethics to read it. On a seperate note, the programme Room 101 on BBC 2 seems to have deviated slightly from Orwell's version.

I've read Animal Farm as well; sheer brilliance in my opinion. Its not scary like the other two, but they accurately reflect so much of society. Does it mystify anyone else how people can create so many metaphors for life in a way we accept?

I've never played it, but it sounds intriging (if only i could sp), especially if it made a pro-USA into ths twisted, sadistic Bush-hater i see before me

This is possibly delving into the realms of debate here, but nevermind. I myself consider myself a Menshevik Marxist. For those who don't know what that is, its basically someone who strictly believes the Marxist theory that as a country evolves it goes through several stages, the last being the perfect society; ie Communism. These ages depend on each other to work, which is why the Russian version didn't work; they dived straight in without building on a strong Capitalist base.

Umm, anyway. For those who want to continue this discussion, i will be (after checking that this hasn't already been discussed and we are not going over old ground) opening a thread along these lines in the proper section, so this thread can get back on-topic.

On that note... have you noticed how the language (English you understand, since its my primary lingo) is developing into a version of Newspeak? I mean, if you compare it to English used only 50 years ago, you will find so many differences. Imagine what it'll be like in another fifty years...

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