Well after installing SI and getting compatibility patches and stuff, I decided to have another go at making a load order for SI. Unfortunately it didn't turn out as good as expected. It crashed on startup. I need support for this. What should I add, remove or move in my load order? Thank you in advance for those who can help, even the slightest of help is appreciated.

Load Order:

Oblivion.esm
CM Partners.esm
Cobl Main.esm
AWS-Core.esm
HorseCombatMaster.esm
Cybiades.esm
DremoraCompanion.esm
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm
Toaster Says Share v3.esm
Mart's Monster Mod.esm
Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm
TamrielTravellers.esm
Better Cities Resources.esm
Jog_X_Mod.esm
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
nVidia Black Screen Fix.esp
oc_darker_nights.esp
SkingradBridgeLights.esp
Cities Alive At Night.esp
Real Lava 1.3.esp
Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp
Crowded Roads.esp
Book Jackets Oblivion.esp
AliveWaters.esp
AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp
AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp
AWS-ShiveringIsles.esp
Update My Statue.esp
DropLitTorchOBSE.esp
tag_NaturalWildlife.esp
Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp
New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp
Dragonbone Armor Set.esp
The Dead Knights.esp
Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
BlackLuster.esp
Armory of the Silver Dragon.esp
pale_rider's Armory of the Berserker.esp
pale_rider's Paladin Equipment_enchanted_eng.esp
ExnemZorlackArmory.esp
rdweaponpack1.esp
RealSwords - Breton LO-NPC.esp
RealSwords - Redguard LO-NPC.esp
RealSwords - Bosmer LO-NPC.esp
RealSwords - Argonian LO-NPC.esp
RealSwords - Orc LO-NPC v1.0.esp
RealSwords - Khajiit LO-NPC v1.3.esp
mythsandlegends.esp
DMACArmor.esp
arme - excalibur.esp
tda_ScytheModv1.2.esp
Doomshard Bow.esp
blacktempler.esp
Sauron_Armor_Chest.esp
BladesSmithyOOO.esp
Klarre Forestheart.esp
PhoenixEquipment.esp
ExnemRuneskulls.esp
samurai.esp
Akaviri Imports.esp
Dragon Knight Armor v. 1.1.esp
Imperial Watch Playable Fixed Gauntlet Texture.esp
Ayelid Wells.esp
KumikoManor.esp
House On The Bluff .V2.esp
DragonHouse.esp
WhiteRoseLodgev2.0.esp
Water's Edge Cottage.esp
LirialsRetreat.esp
FF_WaldnirsWoods.esp
Yellow Rose Cottage.esp
AkaviriKojima.esp
BravilSeaDomes.esp
Blankenmarch Home.esp
Lakeview2.esp
Snow Dragon Temple v1.0.esp
ND_LongerSummons_x2.esp
ChaseCameraMod.esp
Visually Enchanted 2.1.esp
[GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp
StealthOverhaul.esp
attack and hide medium v2.1.esp
RealisticForceMedium.esp
RealisticMagicForceLow.esp
Kal's Skill Overhaul - Bofra's x3.esp
Kobu's Character Advancement System.esp
Toaster's Legendary Mastery.esp
Toaster's Legendary Skills.esp
DecoratorAssistant with OBSE v1.1.esp
Amajor7 Imperial Furniture.esp
RealisticFatigue.esp
DA ReducedBackwardsRunningSpeed.esp
DA Sprint.esp
FF_Horse_Whistle.esp
Cliff_RankDependantArenaSpectators.esp
Denock Arrows.esp
Jump_Adjustment-2211.esp
Adrenaline Fuelled Archery- Bow Sway.esp
IWR - Windows Lights Shutters - Optimised.esp
RenGuardOverhaul.esp
RenGuardOverhaulShiveringIsles.esp
Mounted_Spellcasting Deadly Reflex Compatible.esp
Enhanced Quest Roleplaying.esp
PersuasionOverhaul.esp
PersuasionSI.esp
Cobl Tweaks.esp
Cobl Si.esp
TTHealthRegen.esp
KT_CustomRaceFix.esp
Kikai-PlayableDremora12.esp
_Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp
AinmhiRace-RensBeautyPackFull.esp
Slof's Playable Xivilai.esp
CM Partners.esp
Living Economy.esp
Level_Rates_Modified_x3.esp
SupremeMagicka.esp
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp
FineWeapons for OOO.esp
RustyItems for OOO.esp
OOO-Respawn_Week.esp
OOO-Magic_Effects+Enchantments.esp
OOO-Magic_Effects+Spells.esp
OOO-Magic_Script_Effect_Fix.esp
OOO-Magic_Game_Settings.esp
OOO-Potions.esp
OOO-ThiefGuild_Difficult.esp
OOO-Water_Weeds.esp
OOO-Armor_Perks_WearRate_Repair.esp
OOO-BirthSigns.esp
OOO-Combat_Skills_Perks_Marksmanship.esp
OOO-Dangerous_Traps.esp
OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp
Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp
PersuasionOverhaul_OOO.esp
EnchantedGems_Geomancy.esp
Harvest [Flora].esp
Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp
Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp
Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp
Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
SM_OOO.esp
SM_EnableRestoreEnchanting.esp
SM_EnchantStaff.esp
Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Creature Skins.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Imperial Armor.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Bats Addon.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - No Undead Rise.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Foxes.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Vindasel.esp
PersuasionOverhaul_MMM.esp
SM_MMMCompatability.esp
SM_ShiveringIsles.esp
TamrielTravellerAdvScript.esp
TamrielTravellers4MMM.esp
TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp
TamrielTravellersItemsVendor.esp
ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp
DeadlyReflex - Combat Moves.esp
300_White Stallion 4.esp
WeaponsOfTheNine.esp
Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp
MountainTower.esp
Thieves Arsenal.esp
Daedric Lord Armor.esp
Cybiades.esp
CybiadesDungeon.esp
xulLushWoodlands.esp
xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp
xulStendarrValley.esp
xulTheHeath.esp
xulImperialIsle.esp
ULFallenLeafEverglade.esp
xuldarkforest.esp
xulAncientYews.esp
xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp
xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp
xulArriusCreek.esp
XulEntiusGorge.esp
xulPatch_AY_AC.esp
xulAncientRedwoods.esp
Knights.esp
DLCVileLair.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
DLCThievesDen.esp
DLCFrostcrag.esp
DLCSpellTomes.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
DLCOrrery.esp
DLCHorseArmor.esp
Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp
DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp
SM_DLCSpellTome.esp
Quest Award Leveller.esp
Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp
Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp
Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp
DremoraCompanion.esp
Hand of Dawn.esp
LastUnicorn.esp
Mighty Umbra.esp
thievery.esp
NakedNord.esp
Artefacts of the Ancestors.esp
ChangeinManagement.esp
SentientWeapon.esp
SentientWeapon - OOO & MOBS.esp
Origin of the Mages Guild.esp
300_Caldera.esp
bartholm.esp
Ungarion1TheWelkyndSword.esp
HoarfrostCastle.esp
AyleidArrows.esp
The Lost Spires.esp
TOTF.esp
Ruin.esp
Better Cities Full.esp
Better Cities - LS RTT TotF.esp
Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp
Better Cities - Full Additions.esp
Better Cities Full - LEYAWIIN No Flooding.esp
AnvilBayExpansion.esp
Better Cities - Anvil Bay Expansion.esp
BCAnvil-LostCoast Fix.esp
BCChorrol-ChorrolHinterland fix.esp
IWR-Windows.esp
WBA Arboretum.esp
KvatchAftermath.esp
MidasSpells.esp
Dark Dungeons.esp
Dark Dungeons - SI.esp
Cobl Glue.esp
Streamline 3.1.esp

Just a quick look through - you are dumping a lot of stuff on the game all at once, It would be better to load them in smaller groups. Also, every set of mods is different, so anything we say is tempered by our experiences with certain mods, and probably no one uses the same combination of mods.

What I see right off.
The unofficial Oblivion patch should be ahead of the unofficial SI patch.
The Harvest flora DLC files should be loaded after the DLC they modify
I saw 2 different Anvil Bay makeovers in the list, are they compatible? and if so are they in the right order?

There are several skills overhauls in the list - they could clash.
A lot of house and castle mods. If any are in the same place that could cause crashes.
Multiple 'beauty' mods, they are infamous for causing things like black eyes, bald heads black faces and others.

I had a lot of trouble with Harvest Flora DLC Frostcraig. I finally just removed it as it seemed to conflict with something I was unable to identify.

Start by disabling any mod that modifies the same thing as another one. such as AnvilBayExpansion.esp and
Better Cities - Anvil Bay Expansion.esp. They each modify the same places in different ways. usually the last one loaded overwrites the previous.

You could easily disable the house mods and add them after you get it to start.

And of course, the big overhaul mods, OOO & MMM they require special handling. I have seen a dozen opinions on how to get them to work together. Some things seem to work for certain people but not for others. There are forums dedicated to each of these with lots of advice.

Are you running all those mods at once? I had the same start up problem and I was looking for Apachii store in that list, because, it was the cause of the problem for mine, but all I seen for that mod in your list was the nvidia black screen fix esp. How many plug-ins did you install lastly before this happened? Try undoing recently made changes to your data folder and run OBMM Conflict detector to see exactly what's conflicting, but you will have to drop some of those mods by uninstalling them

BBen46, I have to remember that. UOP before USIP, then Harvest Flora DLC is after the DLC it modifies. Regarding the Anvil Bay, both are compatible.

Regarding skill overhauls, I did realize I used some in excess.

Maybe I'll remove the houses then place them later.

I only use Ren's beauty pack, and some custom races.

OOO and MMM should work fine for me.


HouseAtlantic: Running all mods at once. I had all these plugins before except SI, the compatibility patches for SI, Fighters Stronghold, and some house mods and others I don't remember.

I will try your suggestions, but I can't post a load order until Friday. My classes start tomorrow. A lot of grinding again