Apparently Ireland is having a shortage of donations for their sperm banks. Hoping to get men motivated there offering free concert tickets to any up and cuming concert (sorry for the "up" and "cuming", I couldn't help myself...bad Carah, bad girl!) of their choice. Also, the Banks will accept mail donations.

I don't know what to say, I'm not a guy, but I'm interested in some male point of views on this matter. How do you feel about this? Can you give up your "boys" for concert tickets? Those are just the questions that are floating around in my head, but this is a free-style discussion, not meant to be a debate. Go mad.

Well.. Masturbating feels good so why I wouldn't do it if I'd be even rewarded with free concert tickets...

I agree, if you're going to do it anyway, why not get something in return for it?

Btw, is that normally giving them away for free or is there any reward?

It's not a question of "Would I?" so much as it is a question of "Would they accept it?". Atleast for most men. Selling sperm isn't anything new, atlest in the US, it's just that most sperm banks these days have certain health and education requirements. Since this includes a minimum height of 5' 9", and a bachelors degree from an acredited college, the number of people who meet those requirements and aren't either in a job where they're making decent money, or aren't seeing/married to someone who would have many reservations about that sort of thing is fairly small. There is afterall that question of "How many children did I father, and will never see (nor want to)?", or other moral issues.

I'll leave out the comments about the quality of "stock" which would do something like this for concert tickets.

It's so interesting that you guys can give something like that up so easily. Knowing that there could be a possibility that a part of me is out there would drive me crazy. The only thing I can compare it to would be donating one of my eggs. I would want to do my best to make sure that person has a healthy, safe, happy life. I have a feeling I'm comparing apples with oranges, right?

I guess you can't be too possessive over that kind of stuff, you gotta' keep the pipes clean Keep a healthy prostate.

Time for science lesson:

Every man, whether he admits it or not, whether he remembers or even realizes that it happened, has left a million little buddies splattered in a bed sheet within a few weeks of hitting puberty. When I was a teen the most common term was "wet dream," and most guys deny it or just don't remember it because for most people the "dream" is actually not sexual. Also, the fact that it's a type of premature ejaculation might make some guys bury it in the back of their minds.

Another "loss of potential family members" happens to every man, every morning. The first time you urinate in the morning, it contains a very high level of protein and it has nothing to do with that steak you ate last night. This is why military doctors and most hospitals require you to relieve yourself at least once before giving your urine sample.

Carah, most women ovulate once a month* right? And most guys only experience a wet dream once or twice* in their entire lifetime. On those two stats I concede you feeling less than eager to give one away. But guys urinate everyday, and holding it in until after breakfast does not change what is coming out. So on that stat, detachment has to set in sooner or later (usually sooner) or you would quickly go insane at the thought of loosing a million future heirs everyday just because your bladder got full.

All that said: I have donated before, but not anonymously to a bank for money. It was more of a direct deposit to two very close friends who could not have a child without help (because they're both girls). And now those who have heard me say it, now understand the meaning of "my son has two mommies."

* I used the qualifier most because there are exceptions to every rule.

Donating some disposable biological matter, being compensated for it, and having that donation potentially helping to give someone something they desperately want (not to mention helping to create a life...) sounds like a "win-win" situation to me. While there are no guarantees in life I would think that anyone sufficiently motivated to go to a sperm bank would obviously care greatly about the offspring... so no worries there. Now, how about the thought that I might have "part of me" out there somewhere...? I haven't given the subject extensive thought, but I don't think I would have a problem with that. I would probably have thoughts from time to time wondering... but I would likely be more hopeful (dreaming vicariously) than worried.

There is a bit of a difference between casting seed which you know will never help create life, and casting seed which just might. But yeah, it happens more frequently, both with and without intention, so it isn't precieved as such a loss. And it is often paired with a pleasurable action when it is with intention, so there usually isn't much thoughr about the whole ordeal. Women on the otherhand cast their seed only after it is no longer capable of producing life, and the ordeal is longterm, and usually met with discomfort (severe in some) and significant changes in emotional state. So it is only natural that there would be a bit more of a connection and contemplation involved. Find me a woman who enjoys menstruation... Find me a man who doesn't enjoy ejaculation (when it's happening ateast)... Enough said.

the moment i saw the name of the thread something clicked and lo and behold i was right
as far as the subject matter goes and i can only speak for myself the awnser is no
no way no how no way in hell
not for any kind of monetary amount and not for any concert tickets either
i woudl have difficulty parting with something as intensly personal and private as that

so my awnser would be no

and in case anybody had any doubts and no matter what my avatar and screen name might suggest i am a bloke

Yeah, I heard about this on the radio. The guys at 102.1 theEDGE went to Ireland on St.Patrick's day. Damn, it must be easy to get tickets in Ireland......



Wow, never knew that before. How soon does it start?

I'd surely pass. They'd have to resurrect Lennon for me to %&$! my way into a concert. Nothing against masturbation, it just seems like a bit much for a simple band performance.

Edit: *sigh* These filters make me feel like a child at times. The word started with 'W' and I think you can figure it out.

Personally, I wouldn't do it. The thought of having random children out there is just disturbing.

What if you did it at say age 18 (the minimum age), and then 20 years later, you fall in love with one of "them."

Or what if someone related to you came in for "little men," the company screws up, and she some how got yours?


Personally, I could not live with that on my mind.


NOTE: I did not mean to offend anyone this has happened to. If I did, I am very sorry.

the chance sof you meeting on eof your rr donor children let alone falling in love ith them are pretty damn small though

I applaud your openness and frankness on a very personal matter.

Kudos to you.

Buddah

Yeah well, I've heard of stranger things happening...

so have i but the possibility is remote

There's a very simple solution to that. Don't date or have sex with anyone who is 20 years younger than you. I mean seriously... 40 year olds dating 20 year olds is just disgusting, even when they aren't related. Honestly, what would you have to talk about? Sure, the sex might be fun, but it's an empty relationship that is usually based on her having "daddy issues", and that is never a good thing.

Could also just refuse to sleep with anyone who is the same race as you. *Runs away*

Well, you know what I mean. I was just backing up my opinion.

I know of several people who have actually fallen in love with people over 18 years of difference. They were perfectly happy together.

And I found it rather shallow that you said, "Sure the sex might be fun, but it would be an empty relationship..." Read what I said above. ^


*Runs away and hides in fear of starting a (heated) debate.*

And I'm sure there are, however those kinds of relationships are a rare thing, and are becoming even rarer. I apoligize. However, the majority of those sorts of relationships, with that large of an age gap, atleast within America, tends to be more for less noble purposes. Either she is with him for money, and nice things, or he is with her so that he can have a young thing on his arm and in his bed. And usually, the only thing they actually have in common is their exploitation of eachother. Which was what the statement was based on.

As for the actual heart of the matter, unless you were having unprotected sex, or were planning to have a kid (which most places recommend a blood test), there really isn't too much wrong with that whole "she might be my biological daughter" kinda thing. Now hold your pitchforks a second. In many places you can actually have more genetic similarities with your neighbor than your child (even when you are the biological parent). This is because although 50% of their genes may come from you, 50% also came from someone else. Whereas with your neighbor, if you share the same eye color, same skin color, and same hair color, chances are that you may have more than 50% in common with them genetically, especially if you happen to live in a small community. In general, imbreeding is only a problem in those rare cases when a recessive gene is passed from both partners, in which case the offspring won't have a healthy gene to make up for that weakness (blond hair, blue eyes). But as procreation isn't an issue, that rare chance of both recessive genes being passed on isn't an issue. As far as the other "Ick" aspect to it, neither of you had any relationship beforehand, neither of you had any knowledge beforehand, so there are no intentions of incest in the act. It's not like you helped raise them from a child, and imprinted in their life as a father figure (that came later). Sure, once you find out about a blood relationship, there will be an awkward moment, and the romance may be gone, but before then it really isn't any different than dating anyone else.

I mean, there is a reason why Woody Allen is considdered a sicko, and it has little to do with his movies. He adopted a child, and then when she was old enough, had sex with her, and eventually married her. Although they were not blood related, it is still a disgusting act because he was "father" to her.

And as said, even those chances are very remote since most sperm banks trade their stock with other banks around the country to prevent that sort of thing. You actually run a greater chance of running into a long lost cousin, or in some cases, a sibling. I'm not trying to sell you on incest here or anything, it's still sick. The moral of the story is really that you should be more careful about who you sleep with, sperm donor or not.

Decal_mirror, I don't know how goes it in another countries, as I know in Spain the reward is between 40-50 € for donating, depending of the region.

Personally, I think the earth is already over populated. We do not need to increase population, we need to redistribute it.

On the subject of not being able to stand it if you though your child was out there somewhere...

I really don't think me "think" the same way about pregnancy and such until they have a child of their own.

Women are trained from an early age (and probably through genetics somewhat) that to raise, love children....this is a good thing. Girls take take of younger siblings. They play with babydolls and are encouraged to nurture. Boys don't get the same training. Even when a woman is pregnant with their child...based on my personal experience...guys really dont get it. It doesn't grow inside them. They dont feel it move and kick and such. It wasn't until my daughter was about 6months old and was developing a personality that her father really got it. Now they are like peas and carrots and he loves her completely, but it just isn't the same for guys in general.

I am not sure what I would do in a case like this. I am under the legal age anyway but thinking about it, it would make another family happy and you for helping and just for the general thing.
Although the feeling of knowing that somewhere out there, you have a possibility of a child would haunt me.

It's true, guys just don't get it.....the only thing I can compare it to is designing and building stuff.

For example, let's say a guy has to build something for his university degree. He first thinks of everything he wants it to be, then draws out a plan. He revises the plan so that it's better, then he starts building it. While he's building it, he may have to change the plan so that it works. He works on it everyday, and he can see the progress he makes clearly. When he's done, it's fully functional and he's very proud of it, probably wants to keep it for himself.

There's a difference, I suppose, between building something and growing something.

It's a good comparison at least for me, I would feel the same way & always wonder if I had another child out there somewhere.
I may do it for a friend (like some else did) but not for concert tickets (liked the stock comment).

Yeah, except that isn't what's happening in this case. There is no commitment beyond the first moment. It's like making a comment like "Hey, you should proably stop smoking" to someone in passing. You will never see that person again, and chances are that your comment won't actually result in anything. Outside of those cases where someone dones for a specific couple, or group of couples, most of what is used either sits for months, dies off durring the freezing process, or fails to take even after artificial semination (the reason why they usually implant 6-7 eggs at once). It's not like you're there helping them get back to health or anything. It's not like you actually played any signigicant part in thier life. To use the project analogy, it's similar to making a mod request, or pointing someone in the right direction with their mod. Sure, you played a minor role in making it happen, but you really can't (and shouldn't) make claims to ownership over it. Of all the people I've helped around here over the last few years, I very rarely hear anything about what became of that mod, or that modder, and I really don't expect to. I helped, but it is their project, they are the ones who deserve most the credit, and the ownership of it.

If you're going to obsess over something as minor as that, you might as well be obsessing over everything you ever said to anyone, or wrote them?

Strange thing is, I think this whole 'donating sperm' thing is the only possible way I could pass on my genes.

See, my genes are great, but I know for a fact I can't be a good father. I come from a long line of bad fathers. And it's got nothing to do with genes and everything to do with how the kid is raised. My Dad says to me I'm the one who'll end this trend, but couldn't it have been him who did it instead? Anyhow, I figure if my child is raised by parents more nurturing than my father, he'll turn out ok.

Of course, it could be a genetic thing, my headstrongness a result of my breeding, the abusive style of parenting being the only way to bring up such a child. In that case, the kid would be so much worse.....