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doomjockey
Ok. It's sad to see this section for the arts go unfulfilled, especially when we've so many talented individuals here. I love art. It's my obsession. And I'd like to see a few cooperative projects go out. This is a call, a plea if you will, to bring a little sun to the Druid's Garden. The goal is to regularly and reliably produce meritorious works of art.

Meritorious? Because even though I'm aiming for doable projects, you shouldn't walk into this thinking it's easy. Now, none are huge projects: "small and doable". That's the name of the game. And notice I didn't say quick works of art. "Small and doable", yes. Rushed? Not bloody likely (unless of course you're quick and good). I'm thinking something like a biweekly, low panel comic. Or chain story. Or even a chain comic. If you've "small and doable" ideas, this is the time and place to present them.

I know this forum exists primarily for modders (who are often busy) so although I do hope some of you will want to participate, I know time constraints might not allow it. If you do have the time, but are unsure how to contribute, we can discuss that. I also know some of you, like me, just enjoy the community and I say to you that the flowers of a Druid's Garden should still blossom so everyone can bask in their inspirations. Poems, stories, fan-fiction, drawings, etc. don't have to be about Oblivion or The Elder Scrolls. As you can see, I've meager skills with art and metaphor and I think everyone has at least the desire to create something that everyone can enjoy. Let's sit down and discuss what we can accomplish together.

So if you can draw, I'm calling on you. If you can write, I'm calling on you. If you can create, I'm calling on you.

And remember, these are only my ideas. I await the presentation of yours.

A few guidelines:

1. As always, only serious people need apply.
2. Ideas are great. Nothing begins without an idea. However be expected to bring something more to the table than just the idea.
3. Although the goals are focused on "small and doable" projects, please don't volunteer your time if you do not have the time to spare. I know you mean well, but it won't help in the long run. Drop-outs and rushed projects haphazardly slapped together at the last minute won't help anyone.
4. Communication is a must. You're input is not only welcome, but necessary. Expect to regularly interact with your partner(s). If you can't get online often, this probably isn't something for you.
5. Either bring or learn the skills necessary to create your project. If you plan a comic/drawing, know or learn how to work a scanner/image editor. If you plan a story/poem, know or learn how to work English/word processors/spell check.

And in case none are interested...

This will be a regular post. Here's some art of mine.

-Tony, doomjockey

crazydave
I definatly agree. By my count there have only been four posts in the past week, and thats just sad. Right now, I have about eight different stories floating around in my head, unfortunatly I have NO writing skills at all. But I used to be a decent artist. I'm not entirely sure if I have the free time to comit, so I guess I won't bother with officially signing up (yet). Im still going to do my part to plant a few flowers, and I'll start by posting some of my old pics... just as soon as I find them.

Edit: I forgot to say nice job on the pic.
Marcus Wolfe
I think I could provide a weekly comic strip (hell, I could produce a DAILY comic strip if I made the effort).

I've already uploaded it to here, take a look and tell me what you think
doomjockey
Guideline 4 almost screwed me when I woke up this morning sans internet. closedeyes.gif


Anyway! Glad to see you guys have shown some interest.

QUOTE(crazydave @ Mar 19 2008, 10:18 AM) *
I definatly agree. By my count there have only been four posts in the past week, and thats just sad. Right now, I have about eight different stories floating around in my head, unfortunatly I have NO writing skills at all. But I used to be a decent artist. I'm not entirely sure if I have the free time to comit, so I guess I won't bother with officially signing up (yet). Im still going to do my part to plant a few flowers, and I'll start by posting some of my old pics... just as soon as I find them.

Edit: I forgot to say nice job on the pic.


Even if you decline to formally participate, I think you should always post something. I'd definitely like to see some art/literature before you write yourself off so quickly. We can get an idea of your current proficencies. Be brave, be bold. Let's be supportive without fear of rejection.

QUOTE(Marcus Wolfe @ Mar 19 2008, 12:22 PM) *
I think I could provide a weekly comic strip (hell, I could produce a DAILY comic strip if I made the effort).

I've already uploaded it to here, take a look and tell me what you think


Wolfe, absolutely love that strip. Funny as hell. I think I read through eight pages so far and it's 2am. sweat.gif
Definitely think we could put out at least a comic. I think you could definitely fulfill the role of a writer. Also, I appreciate the eagerness, but daily projects will not happen. At least not for me because of work and obligations. But it's your call, of course since it's your series.


I'll also ask anyone else interested to submit an example based upon what they wabt to do. Writers submit written works, artists submit pics, etc. Don't be shy. Show us what you got.
Malchik
I have posted stuff here in the past - one of my monologues and a few poems. It's not really the ideal place unless there are several like-minded souls. These days I send plays and my fantasy story to individuals who express interest via pm or the internet.

However here is a song from my musical comedy 'Did I Sing Too Loud?'

The theatrical director B.L. Zeebub (known affectionately as BZ (in UK pronunciation that is Bee Zed) explains why directing is a pain in the butt.

No.2 BZ'S LECTURE - A DIRECTOR'S LOT

BZ If you're wanting a job that is pure enjoyment
With excellent prospects, secure employment
A job that will bring you in plenty of money
Around friendly people, both clever and funny
One likely to raise you to permanent fame
So that all of the world is aware of your name
Without any stress, where you never feel blue
Don't become a director. It isn't for you.
CHORUS Oh come off it BZ, don't be such a wally
Try being an actor. Now that's pure folly.

BZ Say the author is rich and puts up lots of money
To perform his own comedy, though it's not funny
Or perhaps he's come up through the school of hard knocks
And has buried it deeply in endless raw shocks
Or p'raps it's a metaphor, where death's beneath
The continual clack of 'Our Granddad's' false teeth
Whatever his problems, the play is a mess
But who gets told off? Well, I'm sure you can guess.
CHORUS The director's the one who interprets the text
And you change your mind from one day to the next!

BZ The treasurer tells you the budget is minimal
The stage must be bare and the lighting subliminal
In fact, if you're not in the first front two rows
You won't see much more than the lead actor's nose
Oh the whole thing may be a delight to the ear
But a play's to be seen, not just something you hear
The cost-cutting kills off the play in a week
They're in need of a scapegoat. You know who they'll seek.
CHORUS You'd know about that long before you'd begun it
If you couldn't comply then you shouldn't have done it.

BZ An actor so famous he's played every role
Condescendingly says, for the good of his soul,
He will act in your sad little piece, as it's novel
And grandly expects you to curtsey or grovel
He won't make rehearsals - he knows what to do
The few times he appears, he won't listen to you
The rest of the cast have no clue what he's doing.
So who stops the buck of the audience booing?
CHORUS You know what they're like when you offer them roles
Your excuse is a cop out, it's shot through with holes.

BZ Up there, in the lighting box, they're on the sherry
They'll f*** up the cues but at least they'll be merry
The props have gone missing, the sound system's s**t
The lead lady's late and her costume won't fit
The tall sultry lover will quickly be seen
As he is in real life, just a tired old queen
Influenza has struck - half the cast is infected
And who's fault is that? It's the sap who directed.
CHORUS Stop BZ, we're all at the end of our tether
Your job as director's to hold it together!
Chesto
I'm going to be watching this thread with interest. I could offer to supply organic pizzas, for your break times. Though, being a PC/WEB cretin, I might have difficulty figuring out which of the PC's many orifices would be the one to use. It might get messy.
crazydave
QUOTE(doomjockey @ Mar 20 2008, 09:22 AM) *
Even if you decline to formally participate, I think you should always post something. I'd definitely like to see some art/literature before you write yourself off so quickly.

Alright, this is a pic I did a while back but never posted. Its titeled "Monster in the Mirror".

I've also got some older pics that I may have posted here a year ago. I could repost them if anyone is interested.
Marcus Wolfe
interesting.........
Anyhow, I think I could submit once a week, on Friday night, so that you could see it on Saturday morning
doomjockey
I've gotta say, we're gathering a decent confluence of talent here.

Not bad at all crazydave, at least you seem able to implement the basic concepts of design. If you wish to bone up, I know of a few sites with some basic helpful tips- easy stuff, don't worry. I'm not gonna make you read a book or anything. "Small and Doable" A few more questions: how proficient are you with color? Would you be comfortable producing art of similar quality on a weekly/bi-weekly basis? Would you feel at all comfortable doing say a three or four panel strip?

If you've a pic to answer the "color" question, by all means, repost.


Mr Wolfe you say, you're able to produce on a weekly basis? That would be excellent indeed. You would do well to partner with an artist of like mind. Did you have any ideas for a new strip? We can develop something suited to the artist's skill level.


Malchik, just wow.
That's superb and I'm guessing you hear that often. We could definitely use your writing ability, but I'm thinking for something other than a comic unless you had one in mind. Perhaps, a chain story? With skill, it's not too challenging to submit additions on a regular basis.


Chesto, ten to one it'll be the USB. I poured a bit of Guinness there and saw many lights flash. That's good, right?


It seems promising. Now, everyone take a look at the guidelines again and answer these questions in your mind (not in post). Has your situation changed in the past few days? Can you work the necessary tools for the area of interest? Can you dedicate the necessary time? If this is our group, we'll move forward soon and I'll be asking you to review these often. It's just to make sure you won't be straining yourself at any time with unrealistic expectations.

Ideas? Suggestions? Preferences?
crazydave
QUOTE(doomjockey @ Mar 21 2008, 11:48 PM) *
Not bad at all crazydave, at least you seem able to implement the basic concepts of design. If you wish to bone up, I know of a few sites with some basic helpful tips- easy stuff, don't worry. I'm not gonna make you read a book or anything. "Small and Doable" A few more questions: how proficient are you with color? Would you be comfortable producing art of similar quality on a weekly/bi-weekly basis? Would you feel at all comfortable doing say a three or four panel strip?

Well, I could probably use a few tips, since I am completely self taught. I dont do color very well, infact most of my work is done with an ordinary ball point pen. I cant really make any promises at the moment, but I have begun a new project. It's a webcomic that I hope will be availible on a bi-weekly scheduel.
decal_mirror
Hello! Would you be interested in photos? I took just a few hours ago a series of photos. Currently I haven't edited even their filenames from the camera generated, but I would appreciate any request to produce them further to wallpapers, sigs, whateveryouask and even propaganda posters from them..

The series is called Blood And Drugs. Well, since I don't have any drugs(apart from some medicine), I used a lot of blood. And before anyone asks, yeah, that is REAL blood. "One must suffer in the name of art."

WARNING!! As the are blood and some other stuff, someone might find them pretty offensive. Actually there aren't really anything that five years old could not watch but still I had to put this warning here.

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Sadly these might be the last photos I can take as the camera I'm using isn't my and I have to return it.
gman021
QUOTE(decal_mirror @ Mar 27 2008, 08:51 PM) *
Hello! Would you be interested in photos? I took just a few hours ago a series of photos. Currently I haven't edited even their filenames from the camera generated, but I would appreciate any request to produce them further to wallpapers, sigs, whateveryouask and even propaganda posters from them..

The series is called Blood And Drugs. Well, since I don't have any drugs(apart from some medicine), I used a lot of blood. And before anyone asks, yeah, that is REAL blood. "One must suffer in the name of art."

WARNING!! As the are blood and some other stuff, someone might find them pretty offensive. Actually there aren't really anything that five years old could not watch but still I had to put this warning here.

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Sadly these might be the last photos I can take as the camera I'm using isn't my and I have to return it.


Dude, what kind of f***ed up s**t are you doing?! (No offense intended, it's just that with the syringe and all that, I find it creepy that you are drawing your own (or someone/somethings) blood to take photos of it... blink.gif )
crazydave
QUOTE(gman021 @ Mar 28 2008, 02:45 AM) *
Dude, what kind of f***ed up s**t are you doing?! (No offense intended, it's just that with the syringe and all that, I find it creepy that you are drawing your own (or someone/somethings) blood to take photos of it... blink.gif )

Before you go making rash assumptions, did you consider that he could be a diabetic. Diabetics need to draw blood a couple times a day to test it, and would have some extra syringes laying around.

Personally I think they're interesting. I would have liked to see a bit more diversity in the way of drugs. You don't even have to use real drugs. You could use bakeing soda or powdered sugar, cut into lines so it looks like cocain. You could use acouple of empty perscriptinion bottles, ofcourse you would want to make sure people cant read the info on the label. You could even throw some oregano in a sandwich bag so it looks like pot.
shalheira
QUOTE(decal_mirror @ Mar 27 2008, 09:51 PM) *
Hello! Would you be interested in photos? I took just a few hours ago a series of photos. Currently I haven't edited even their filenames from the camera generated, but I would appreciate any request to produce them further to wallpapers, sigs, whateveryouask and even propaganda posters from them..

The series is called Blood And Drugs. Well, since I don't have any drugs(apart from some medicine), I used a lot of blood. And before anyone asks, yeah, that is REAL blood. "One must suffer in the name of art."

WARNING!! As the are blood and some other stuff, someone might find them pretty offensive. Actually there aren't really anything that five years old could not watch but still I had to put this warning here.



Decal_mirror, I like too much the photos, I downloaded some of them. My sister has watched it and she thinks like me laugh.gif . Also we listened some of your songs. Specially, "Autumn Leaves".

Looking for my desk, I've found one of my earliest drawings, called "Eareynis of Durslasme in front of the mirror". I made it when I was thirteen years old...
gman021
QUOTE(crazydave @ Mar 28 2008, 07:26 PM) *
QUOTE(gman021 @ Mar 28 2008, 02:45 AM) *
Dude, what kind of f***ed up s**t are you doing?! (No offense intended, it's just that with the syringe and all that, I find it creepy that you are drawing your own (or someone/somethings) blood to take photos of it... blink.gif )

Before you go making rash assumptions, did you consider that he could be a diabetic. Diabetics need to draw blood a couple times a day to test it, and would have some extra syringes laying around.

Personally I think they're interesting. I would have liked to see a bit more diversity in the way of drugs. You don't even have to use real drugs. You could use bakeing soda or powdered sugar, cut into lines so it looks like cocain. You could use acouple of empty perscriptinion bottles, ofcourse you would want to make sure people cant read the info on the label. You could even throw some oregano in a sandwich bag so it looks like pot.


Don't get me wrong, the pix are good, it's just that I'm a bit squeamish about blood... sometimes.
Ra)
I just made this signature for someone on The Elder Scrolls Fan Union.



-Dume
decal_mirror
We formed one group of artists at mikseri.net to publish a compilation cd via torrent or similar and I'm desinging cd-cover to it. Genre is mainly industrial and various heavy electronic genres.

Heres some examples:
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Ra)
Another signature. Also a new one for me in my sig.



-Dume
decal_mirror
[quote
Ra)'
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Hi! I like your sigs as they have quite unusual appeal compared to regular sigs. However they lack.. well, something. They look all the same. Every sig of yours I've seen does not differ from each others. Can you do something completely different?
Ra)
I could try, that maple leaf was new.

But it's just my style of making signatures. tongue.gif

-Dume
Ra)
Another signature.



-Dume
decal_mirror
Ah.. back again. My network had been down for sometime so I couldn't write here much. But..

This is a back-cover for our Alicenation music compilation, we're trying to publish in the internet. Well, I don't know if this is the final version or if we even accept this, but no matter I'm willing to show it to you.
montrovant91
i was searching for drawing in the search and i came acros this read ur first post, i havent drawn in a while and one more thing ANY STYLE?! anyway if u need to get a hold of me ozzychildofgod1234@yahoo.com , here or my aim s8mistake915 im usually signed in even though im not at the pc i will try to get in touch with you. thanks.gif thanks.gif thanks.gif


i have found a picture of mine hazaa alas not a new one but one nonetheless
montrovant91
i will definitely have to draw a new one of my character from oblivion


EDIT: ok here it is from the moment i last posted this whici was like 3:00 in the afternoon til now it is done my character tosebari......
montrovant91
http://thetrikzter915.deviantart.com/art/T...racter-82954309 couldnt upload it so here is my DA version plz comment ^_^
Marcus Wolfe
QUOTE(Ra) @ Mar 30 2008, 07:15 PM) *
I just made this signature for someone on The Elder Scrolls Fan Union.



-Dume

Acka....ackbth....

DUDE ALL YOU HAVE TO DO ID PUT A WOLF HEAD IN THERE AND IT'S MY PERFECT THING!!!!
evilkoal
very nice smile.gif

do you use photoshop for those?

i cant wait for the torrent to come if you are releasing it as one! industrial is one of my favorite styles of music.

(that back cover is kind of hard to read... maybe more conflicting colors?)
Ra)
I use Photoshop CS3.

And here is a sword I drew. It took about three and a half hours. I like the way the handle turned out... I use a Rapidograph .16 pen and a Wolff B pencil. I also posted it on my DA, DokterDume.

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa210/D...e/AP-SwordO.jpg

And here are some other things I've done lately...

A set of buttons for The Elder Scrolls Fan Union.





And a logo.



-Dume
Ra)
This is my addition the "Diverse Posters" mod.



-Dume
decal_mirror
That's awesome, although I think that the legioneer is a bit too dark. The font is great! I have to ask from where have you got it? I got to ld it too..


Here's some lyrics I made inspired by those Blood & Drugs pictires I posted earlier in this same thread.



Can you see your face
In this picture
Do you know what you're doing
For your self
It's not only you
But your friends
If you happen to have
Anyone left

[chorus]
Blood and drugs
Blood and drugs
The beautiful feeling
That no one can touch
But me alone
Blood and drugs
I need it so badly
I need it so much

The screen is empty and my mind
Is wandering away
Despite all the darkness
I feel I am in light
I can't control my body
It's not mine (not anymore)
There's only such an emptiness
And void

[chorus]
Blood and drugs
Blood and drugs
So beautiful feeling
And no one can touch
Me, as I'm God
Blood and drugs
Makes me
Invincible

So, it's the funeral day
Of yours
What did I say
What did I say
As you're dying out there
Alone
Nobody's there
Missing you, loving you
'cause you're only

[chorus]
Blood and drugs
Blood and drugs
The beautiful feeling
That no one can touch
Not even you
Blood and drugs
They're eating you
They're killing you

Blood and drugs
Blood and drugs...
....
..


Lisnpuppy
OK Doomjokey:

I made my 1st post today.
Maybe a bit girly but there you go.
I would love to actively participate with you guys if you will accept my meger talents.
gashie
QUOTE(doomjockey @ Mar 19 2008, 07:57 AM) *
Poems, stories, fan-fiction, drawings, etc. don't have to be about Oblivion or The Elder Scrolls.



Hi doomjockey! The topic here caught my attention smile.gif First forum post here by the way, so HI all!

I know that this may not be entirely in the spirit of things (being contrary to your post. i.e; it is oblivion related), but quite recently I posted a short comic strip in the image share section:

click here


I am actually planning to continue on with these series. If you check out my other image uploads, there is a sparse helping of some simple wallpapers i did (if you're wondering, I don't upload pure screenshots- perhaps because I value my own sense of individuality and prefer to do these)

I was just thinking it'll be nice to have a place/thread for me to contribute some works, for the basic intent of letting people enjoy them. I'm also intrigued with the prospect of working with other like-minded members. I'm generally comfortable with photoshop, and I'll just go as far as saying that I've had some training with visual comms and fine arts. I always find great pleasure in making most anything that involves a canvas (literally or otherwise), creativity and a sprinkling of ideas.

In all honesty I don't enjoy being presumptuous; perhaps I could contribute in some way if anyone finds some use for me tongue.gif, after which I'll consider to myself whether I can commit to being some sort of active participant in all of this. In any case I applaud your efforts and give my best wishes to the people that will be banding together here!

p.s. This being a first post, i humbly apologise for any misunderstood tones, lengthy (ranting?) post, unfamiliar style of writing and unfamiliar poster (myself) suddenly jumping out of the blue and into these forums.





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