Finally they get what they deserve.

Thanks for posting man, score 1 for us!

Hahaha! Owned in the face!
I've only played a little of that game, but the news was soooo wrong on that issue.

Hey man, thanks for the info! I love Mass Effect, and I had no idea there was any controversy. Just another example of someone judging something before they get both sides of the story! As hoots7 said, Score one for the gamers!

I saw that a couple days ago on one of the other forums. Amazon did remove the reviews once, but in a brilliant display of community togetherness, the original 100-130 bad reviews exploded into over 400 horrifically dismal reviews. And the list of tags is quite entertaining.

EDIT: Here's the list.

ignorant (935)
garbage (750)
hypocrisy (750)
hypocrite (716)
hack (714)
junk (691)
terrible (680)
bigot (599)
bigoted (535)
bias (513)
cult (241)
stupid (33)
trash (28)
idiot (24)
liar (23)
mass effect (22)
horrible (20)
cooch smells like rotting intestines (18)
lies (18)
moron (15)
uninformed (15)
biased (14)
ignorance (13)
lame (13)
sexist (12)
awful (11)
worthless (11)
waste (10)
racist (9)
ugly (9)
uneducated (9)
dumb (
pathetic (
retarded (
sex (
alien-side-clea vage-is-the-dea th-of-amer... (7)
drivel (7)
evil (7)
fraud (7)
sexual (7)
unprofessional (7)
useless (7)
waste of time (7)
disgusting (6)
fool (6)
idiotic (6)
loser (6)
nudity (6)
quack (6)
waste of money (6)
xxx (6)
arrogant (5)
fox (5)
harebrained pseudoscience (5)
misinformed (5)
toilet paper (5)
bad (4)
boring (4)
clueless (4)
fail (4)
failure (4)
filth (4)
foolish (4)
hypocritical (4)
insulting (4)
irresponsible (4)
porn (4)
sexy (4)
tripe (4)
vag the size of a whale (4)
vile (4)
bad at giving oral pleasure (3)
beastiality (3)
bigotry (3)
bimbo (3)
burn this book (3)
cat turd sandwich (3)
cooper (3)
darling (3)
do your research next time (3)
dont mess with gamers (3)
dumbass (3)
fascist (3)
flabby arms (3)
fox news (3)
idiocy (3)
incompetent (3)
judgemental (3)
lazy (3)
lie (3)
poor quality (3)
poorly written (3)
pop psychology (3)
propaganda (3)
retard (3)
self-help (3)
trite (3)
video games (3)
worst book ever (3)
xbox 360 (3)

It's about time.

Gamers have been getting hit on since Doom 1 by people who have no idea of what they are talking about. Thanks for the Link.

I haven't got a link at the moment, but I read in a thread on The Escapist that Jack Thompson actually defended Mass Effect, sort of, and said that there was nothing wrong with it. The world has gone completely mad.

Jack...Thomson...defending...games?

Don't worry, he appears to have recovered from his temporary illness.

Oh Jack Thompson:Will he ever stop harassing us?
Obviously Grand Theft Auto IV should be kept out of the hands of little kids........the same way little kids should be kept out of theatres playing Rambo (saw it yesterday.........that is some serious violence). But that's the parent's job. Considering that the parent's job is made easier by the ERSB rating system, they really have no excuse and Jack should just shut up. You make a pornography and you make sure people selling it keep it behind a bead curtain. Perhaps there should be some kind of 'bead curtain' for games as well.

Rambo, serious violence... Somehow I have the feeling that it's quite a bit toned down from the original. There's a reason why the 80's and early 90's were so great, you could have excessively violent movies without people bitching up a storm. Whatever happened to the winsom of "If you don't like it, don't buy it"? If people aren't giving these things attention, they won't do as well. When will those people get a clue?

I strongly defend my right as a U.S. citizen of legal age to watch blood and brains spill across the floor in graphic detail on the afternoon cop shows, while simultaneously objecting to violence of video games, which are clearly the ruin of the younger generation. This is why you see so many of them on websites like this one instead of out knocking the daylights out of each other as I did when I was that age. I consider it an offence to my religion and probably my country to show the upper torso of a female without at least three layers of clothing, but I confess to being utterly clueless as to why so many of my fellow citizens have s#xual hang-ups and must spend millions of dollars on pills to correct them.

(If you don't know me, its probably just as well, hypocrites unite)

(If you do know me, you also know that this is the lowest form of humor according to the DarkOne, Sarcasm, however used to shine a light on painful truths)



Please, don't report me! It will only encourage me that someone somewhere is listening.

Winsom-it's wisdom where everybody wins.
Anyhow, I do miss the 90s flicks where you can be as gory as you want, although the new Rambo is pretty intense.....particularly the heavy machine gun scene. But that's a topic for a different forum. What ever happened to that wisdom anyways?

People = Stupid
Nowadays, if someone is watching TV and sees an ad for a movie that they'll probably hate, they say, "I should watch that." Then, after they watch it and hate it, they complain that it was terrible.

Ah, I see.

But that still doesn't explain why everybody feels the need to take it to the next level. Just boycott things you don't like. I mean, if you don't like a brand of tea, you simply don't buy that brand of tea, you don't go off and reenact the Boston Tea Party!

Well, while I agree that people tend to overreact, there is a difference between tea and graphic violence/nudity. No one really cares about tea. You don't get offended by public tea-drinking, do you? On the other hand, many peoples belief systems disagree with graphic violence and nudity. Not trying to start a debate, just pointing out a fact.

Nah, you're looking at it all wrong:
Tea is a product.
Videogames are a product.
There are multiple varieties of tea.
There are multiple varieties of videogames.
Different teas appeal to people with different tastes.
Different videogames appeal to people with different tastes.

It's a viable metaphor.

The thing is, it's not a question of taste. Many people perceive video games as being for kids, so they think that only games suitable for kids should be made. They still haven't grasped the fact that the majority of gamers are older (the average age is 33), and so are entitled to play violent videogames if they so choose.

Yes, that does seem to be the problem.
Although with the rise of mature videogames, you think people would've figured that out. I mean, some games are designed for adults in ways other than their mature content. Take the first God of War for example. There are 3 reasons God of War isn't meant for little kids:
1)The blood and gore content
2)The sexual content
3)The gameplay
That game has some pretty tricky puzzles in it, and I'm pretty sure some of them a little kid could never figure out. They even stumped me for a few times. Navigating the environments takes a little brains. Combat requires fast thinking as well as fast fingers. Even if it wasn't for the adult content, a little kid just couldn't play GoW well. Other games, with both ten and mature ratings, are becoming more like this, more playable to an adult mindset. Probably the only reason our friend Jack Thompson hasn't figured this out is because he doesn't play himself.

Yes, but you just defeated your own logic! By saying certain games are inappropriate for kids, you ruin the analogy! Tea is meant for everyone, violent videogames are not.

Nah, my analogy is still intact. Tea is for people who like tea. But some teas aren't for everybody. Only certain people buy these teas.

Damn, maybe I should have used alcohol in my analogy......ok, I will.

Let's say everybody in the world drinks tea, but not the same tea. Inevitably, some people will sell spiked tea that little kids won't be able to drink. However, these people will spike teas that had flavors only an adult could appreciate.

That's what I'm saying: Adult content is usually found in games that only an adult could enjoy anyways.

Spiked tea? Never seen that...
Personally, I think that the government should do next to nothing about games. They've done all they need to by adding a Mature rating to the games. If a parent is too stupid or simply doesn't care, it's the parent's fault not the government, not the game maker, the parent. It's not the government's job to babysit our youth; it's not the government's job to do the parents' work! That's the kind of country we live in. We live in a free democratic republic, not fascism, not socialism. These parents need to get off their lazy asses and do their own job.

Well, I'm done, I agree with Ninja, and I suppose your analogy is intact. Oh well, maybe one day people will not make judgements without seeing both sides of the story. Of course, that won't happen, but one can dream, right?

Now I thought my last post on this thread was pretty funny. But no reaction, not even a ripple, I am hurt, wounded beyond repair, etcetra, etcetra. Well I guess I just have to sit in a dark room, alone, and all by myself, only to cry myself to sleep.

I thought it was funny my friend, I just didn't see it until Marcus stated his opinion!

Freddy, whatcha doin with the Ninja's sig ???

He's a tough guy an might not like that.

If you look closely, they are ever so slightly different. That is the only thing keeping him alive...
Just kidding! I don't care if anyone uses my sig or one similar. The point of my sig it to spread the word of Cthulhu around, make sure people vote for the best choice on election day.

CTHULHU FOR PRESIDENT!