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Why does the Gray Fox always say Capital! instead of great! ? it got on my nerve constantly, but now I wanna do it too when talking to people D:
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Main Entry: capital
Part of Speech: adjective²
Definition: superior
Synonyms: best, champion, choice, crack, dandy, delightful, deluxe, excellent, famous, fine, first, first-class*, first-rate*, five-star*, great, prime, splendid, superb, top, top-notch*
Antonyms: inferior, poor, worst
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* = informal or slang
Part of Speech: adjective²
Definition: superior
Synonyms: best, champion, choice, crack, dandy, delightful, deluxe, excellent, famous, fine, first, first-class*, first-rate*, five-star*, great, prime, splendid, superb, top, top-notch*
Antonyms: inferior, poor, worst
Source: Roget's New Millennium™ Thesaurus, First Edition (v 1.3.1)
Copyright © 2008 by Lexico Publishing Group, LLC. All rights reserved.
* = informal or slang
yeah it's pretty strange isn't it? i noticed that too.
My joke about that is 'Capital!' is the punishment you'll get if they catch you.
Continuing on ninja's point, i believe it is old english for an exclamation of "Excellent!" or "Great!"
Yeah Arion, its what an English gentleman would say (probs due to fact he is actually quite noble even tho hes a master thief)
QUOTE(ninja_lord666 @ Jan 25 2008, 03:52 PM) 
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Main Entry: capital
Part of Speech: adjective²
Definition: superior
Synonyms: best, champion, choice, crack, dandy, delightful, deluxe, excellent, famous, fine, first, first-class*, first-rate*, five-star*, great, prime, splendid, superb, top, top-notch*
Antonyms: inferior, poor, worst
Source: Roget's New Millennium™ Thesaurus, First Edition (v 1.3.1)
Copyright © 2008 by Lexico Publishing Group, LLC. All rights reserved.
* = informal or slang
Part of Speech: adjective²
Definition: superior
Synonyms: best, champion, choice, crack, dandy, delightful, deluxe, excellent, famous, fine, first, first-class*, first-rate*, five-star*, great, prime, splendid, superb, top, top-notch*
Antonyms: inferior, poor, worst
Source: Roget's New Millennium™ Thesaurus, First Edition (v 1.3.1)
Copyright © 2008 by Lexico Publishing Group, LLC. All rights reserved.
* = informal or slang
a easter egg i think
Col John Sheppard
MrCooper: Well his current life ambition is to regain the status of duke. You need a posh vocabulary for that! 
I think it is great; an attempt to characterize the Gray Fox. He might as well have an upper-class vocabulary, because after looking at the Wanted posters around I was kind of dissapointed on seeing him for the first time in person. Wasn't as imposing as I imagined, but I guess he was just a thief with a magic hat. 
QUOTE(Triforce1 @ Sep 7 2008, 02:49 PM)
I think it is great; an attempt to characterize the Gray Fox. He might as well have an upper-class vocabulary, because after looking at the Wanted posters around I was kind of dissapointed on seeing him for the first time in person. Wasn't as imposing as I imagined, but I guess he was just a thief with a magic hat.
You can say that again. He looks pretty dorky. That cowl is the stupidest looking piece of clothing in the game.
And he's not very tough.
I figured it was just to be unique.
But now I'm wondering, maybe there's some old-time hero like Zorro or Robin Hood who used to say that (I mean, as Errol Flynn played him), and its a bit of an homage. Have to watch them, and Captain Blood, again.
I think its cool how if you ask the stranger, "Who are you?", later on GF will tell you he's told you his name x# of times already.
QUOTE(MrCooper2006 @ Sep 5 2008, 12:00 PM)
Yeah Arion, its what an English gentleman would say (probs due to fact he is actually quite noble even tho hes a master thief)
if i could be an english gentleman, i would say excellent. capital seems a bit strange, maybe because we don't hear it often (unless you don't talk to the gray fox hundred of times... XD)
In addition to the definition given in a previous post, I find him saying "Capital!" quite amusing because "capital" is also another word for money... so he's a thief and he's telling you to swipe things while using a word which means "great!" but also means "money!"
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cap·i·tal1 /ˈkæpɪtl/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[kap-i-tl] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. the city or town that is the official seat of government in a country, state, etc.: Tokyo is the capital of Japan.
2. a city regarded as being of special eminence in some field of activity: New York is the dance capital of the world.
3. capital letter.
4. the wealth, whether in money or property, owned or employed in business by an individual, firm, corporation, etc.
5. an accumulated stock of such wealth.
6. any form of wealth employed or capable of being employed in the production of more wealth.
7. Accounting.
a. assets remaining after deduction of liabilities; the net worth of a business.
b. the ownership interest in a business.
8. any source of profit, advantage, power, etc.; asset: His indefatigable drive is his greatest capital.
9. capitalists as a group or class (distinguished from labor): High taxation has reduced the spending power of capital.
–adjective
10. pertaining to financial capital: capital stock.
11. principal; highly important: This guide offers suggestions of capital interest to travelers.
12. chief, esp. as being the official seat of government of a country, state, etc.: the capital city of France.
13. excellent or first-rate: a capital hotel; a capital fellow.
14. capital letter.
15. involving the loss of life: capital punishment.
16. punishable by death: a capital crime; a capital offender.
17. fatal; extremely serious: a capital error.
[Origin: 1175–1225; ME; (adj.) (< AF) < L capitālis of the head (capit-, s. of caput head, + -ālis -al1); (n.) < ML capitāle wealth, n. use of neut. of capitālis (adj.)]
—Related forms
cap·i·tal·ness, noun
cap·i·tal1 /ˈkæpɪtl/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[kap-i-tl] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. the city or town that is the official seat of government in a country, state, etc.: Tokyo is the capital of Japan.
2. a city regarded as being of special eminence in some field of activity: New York is the dance capital of the world.
3. capital letter.
4. the wealth, whether in money or property, owned or employed in business by an individual, firm, corporation, etc.
5. an accumulated stock of such wealth.
6. any form of wealth employed or capable of being employed in the production of more wealth.
7. Accounting.
a. assets remaining after deduction of liabilities; the net worth of a business.
b. the ownership interest in a business.
8. any source of profit, advantage, power, etc.; asset: His indefatigable drive is his greatest capital.
9. capitalists as a group or class (distinguished from labor): High taxation has reduced the spending power of capital.
–adjective
10. pertaining to financial capital: capital stock.
11. principal; highly important: This guide offers suggestions of capital interest to travelers.
12. chief, esp. as being the official seat of government of a country, state, etc.: the capital city of France.
13. excellent or first-rate: a capital hotel; a capital fellow.
14. capital letter.
15. involving the loss of life: capital punishment.
16. punishable by death: a capital crime; a capital offender.
17. fatal; extremely serious: a capital error.
[Origin: 1175–1225; ME; (adj.) (< AF) < L capitālis of the head (capit-, s. of caput head, + -ālis -al1); (n.) < ML capitāle wealth, n. use of neut. of capitālis (adj.)]
—Related forms
cap·i·tal·ness, noun
Addtionally "The Capital" is also the title of Karl Marx magnum opus, one of the many topics is what he calls primary acquisition from there stems that 'property is theft' notion. So we may be looking at a poltical joke here.
wrong...
marx's book is called "Das Kapital" which is german and has absolutely nothing to do with capital...
kapital describes fiscal property...
marx's book is called "Das Kapital" which is german and has absolutely nothing to do with capital...
kapital describes fiscal property...
Fiscal policy does have a lot to do with capital. The words are certainly related. English is mostly German.
"But, on the other hand, these new freedmen became sellers of themselves only after they had been robbed of all their own means of production, and of all the guarantees of existence afforded by the old feudal arrangements. And the history of this, their expropriation, is written in the annals of mankind in letters of blood and fire. " The Capital, Vol I, Ch. 26
Just one of many examples, actually the whole of Vol I, Part VIII deals with it. Das Kapital/The Capital is about whole processes of economic transformation, you are wrong in narrowing that down to only fiscal aspects. What Marx also had to explain was how capital comes into being and also of course its counterpart, wage labour. Well, shortening things a bit here. Anyway, "robbed of"... and the english title is The Capital, so there you go. http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/index.htm
Just one of many examples, actually the whole of Vol I, Part VIII deals with it. Das Kapital/The Capital is about whole processes of economic transformation, you are wrong in narrowing that down to only fiscal aspects. What Marx also had to explain was how capital comes into being and also of course its counterpart, wage labour. Well, shortening things a bit here. Anyway, "robbed of"... and the english title is The Capital, so there you go. http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/index.htm
well ok lol... seems capital is indeed a BRRRRROOOOOAAAAAADDDDD word 
And that's what brought this thread up. Actually the explanation that it's a rather pompous exclamation reminds me of yet another german book, Heinrich Mann's "Der Untertan". The protagonist, Diederich Hessling, is in the habbit of doing just that qute a lot. Kolossal! (hard to translate, a pompou version of whooping maybe)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Der_Untertan (The title is just as hard to translate, nearly impossible without loosing the undertones.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Der_Untertan (The title is just as hard to translate, nearly impossible without loosing the undertones.)
Kolossal! derives from colossos (anc. greek) (like that statue in rhodes - one of the world wonders of ancient times) and means basicly somin damn great/huge/immensive... colossal... often used like that : this new show is kollosal (a like in arthur) (or full german "diese neue vorfuehrung ist kolossal!")
"der untertan" sucks... had to go through it in school lol...
der = the
untertan = subject (like in "hes the subject of king goerge") or even better "subserviant"...
"der untertan" sucks... had to go through it in school lol...
der = the
untertan = subject (like in "hes the subject of king goerge") or even better "subserviant"...
Ja, so weit schon richtig, aber kolossal ist eben auch so richtig pompös, sozusagen am allerüberriesigsten. Wie transportiert man das, dieses bis kurz vorm Platzen Aufgeblasene? Great trifft es sicher nicht... Capital! Hehe. Du Jamaikaner äh Kiribatianer.
Das grundsätzliche Problem bei wortgetreuen Übersetzungen literarischer Titel ist, dass Begriffe in diesem Zusammenhang eben nicht einfache Bezeichner sind, sondern Statthalter ganzer Bedeutungsfelder. Kondensierte tag clouds, um es internetmäßig auszudrücken. Darum würde ich beispielsweise subject für völlig untauglich halten, subservient ist schon besser, aber eben auch kein Nomen und meines Wissens nach auch nicht substantivierbar. Selbst wenn wäre es ein Neologismus anstelle eines gängigen Begriffs und allein dadurch schon unangemessen. Wirklich, es ist nicht leicht. Sieht man auch an den wechselnden Titeln der Übersetzungen. Und darüber hinaus auch bezeichnend...
Sorry, folks, but this was over my head in English. Would have taken too much time and I'd still feel not really sure if I made my point clear.
I think there's nothing on earth so damaging for peoples readyness to spent some quality time on great literature than all that forced essays following tiresome lectures of uninspired teachers. Give t a try again if you have a thing for history, which you obviously have. I don't think you'll regret it.
Das grundsätzliche Problem bei wortgetreuen Übersetzungen literarischer Titel ist, dass Begriffe in diesem Zusammenhang eben nicht einfache Bezeichner sind, sondern Statthalter ganzer Bedeutungsfelder. Kondensierte tag clouds, um es internetmäßig auszudrücken. Darum würde ich beispielsweise subject für völlig untauglich halten, subservient ist schon besser, aber eben auch kein Nomen und meines Wissens nach auch nicht substantivierbar. Selbst wenn wäre es ein Neologismus anstelle eines gängigen Begriffs und allein dadurch schon unangemessen. Wirklich, es ist nicht leicht. Sieht man auch an den wechselnden Titeln der Übersetzungen. Und darüber hinaus auch bezeichnend...
Sorry, folks, but this was over my head in English. Would have taken too much time and I'd still feel not really sure if I made my point clear.
I think there's nothing on earth so damaging for peoples readyness to spent some quality time on great literature than all that forced essays following tiresome lectures of uninspired teachers. Give t a try again if you have a thing for history, which you obviously have. I don't think you'll regret it.
QUOTE(Sarpedon @ Oct 29 2008, 02:34 PM)
Fiscal policy does have a lot to do with capital. The words are certainly related. English is mostly German.
English has as much, if not more French than German, and capital comes from latin. Most words to do with authority come from french. Capital in German is ernstlich (according to translator).
Anyway, I think it's great that the Gray Fox (Grey Fox to me, English) says "Capital". It is a great attempt to add character when so many NPCs sorely lack it.
PS replies will be interresting. I'm an ass I know. And Catmagnet, you seem to be smart and "I like your style" as I would say if I was American. Have Kudos
Wasder, always here to ruin your points!
there is no word called "ernstlich" 
Sorry. I blame crappy internet translators. Can't even translate a single damn word. 
Curse you evil Babel fish for making me look like a fool!!!
Curse you evil Babel fish for making me look like a fool!!!
I've met a good few 'nobs' in my time, including Sir Alex Douglas Hume, and not one of them have ever uttered the word 'Capital'.
A true English gent would more likely use - Splendid (unless he's a complete and utter arse)
A true English gent would more likely use - Splendid (unless he's a complete and utter arse)
out of a feeling id say that splendid is different to capital
capital is somin final, ending, best... whereas splendid is very good but does not imply its top of the notch
capital is somin final, ending, best... whereas splendid is very good but does not imply its top of the notch
QUOTE(jaysus @ Nov 17 2008, 08:35 PM)
out of a feeling id say that splendid is different to capital
capital is somin final, ending, best... whereas splendid is very good but does not imply its top of the notch
capital is somin final, ending, best... whereas splendid is very good but does not imply its top of the notch
aha ... but, with a beaming smile and steepled fingers, splendid encompasses all ... LOL
IMHO Capital falls into the category of - absolutely $string$ and is generally used by buffoons.
e.g. absolutely wizard, capital, trif, far out, conker trees - canvas and light shows man! Do you know someone, other than the stranger and 'Boris the Mayor', that utters the word capital? I sure as hell don't
QUOTE(pedantic @ Nov 17 2008, 07:47 PM)
I've met a good few 'nobs' in my time, including Sir Alex Douglas Hume, and not one of them have ever uttered the word 'Capital'.
A true English gent would more likely use - Splendid (unless he's a complete and utter arse)
A true English gent would more likely use - Splendid (unless he's a complete and utter arse)
I prefer my word "Splendiferous" or the verb "Splenderization". Possibly "Splangerous" too. Just because I invent words doesn't make me mad. Shakespeare did it. A lot. And to a better quality than me.
To be honest, I don't think Bethesda made the Grey Fox say capital all of the time because of these reasons... 
Personally, I love the word
But I prefer it when the scottish say "Ghilie suit"
Personally, I love the word
But I prefer it when the scottish say "Ghilie suit"
didnt the scots invent it?
Don't know, but if you've ever played Call of Duty 4 you'll know what I'm talking about
nah didnt but if its bout scots i think i know where youre getting at
"gheylae soeut"
"gheylae soeut"
nah, It's more like
"Gilleh soouits"
"Gilleh soouits"
QUOTE(socksftw @ Nov 21 2008, 07:37 PM)
nah, It's more like
"Gilleh soouits"
"Gilleh soouits"
Isn't a Ghillie Suit just the clothing a Ghillie wears? as in 'Ghillie' - the kinda scottish landowners game-keeper. (Yes, I watched 'Monarch of the Glen')
Television can be educational, or as Wasder would say, edumifying (from the verb edumification)
ya... and thats what a ghillie suit is... they invented it to be able to sneak up on game thiefs... (i learned it from monty pythons terry jones )
)
When have I ever said 'Edumifying'?! Good one though, add it to the thread in the lounge.
I'm a Scot. What you've got to remember is that one Scots word means a lot! For example, If we say that a day is 'dreich'
(pronounced dreech - the ch like our German pals), it means the day is - dull, miserable ,raw, depressing, damp and
thoroughly disagreeable!
Anyway, I love the Grey Fox's 'Capital!', I had a history teacher who used it all the time. He was very old, and his friend had been
Lawrence of Arabia, so I think the toffs have it!!
(pronounced dreech - the ch like our German pals), it means the day is - dull, miserable ,raw, depressing, damp and
thoroughly disagreeable!
Anyway, I love the Grey Fox's 'Capital!', I had a history teacher who used it all the time. He was very old, and his friend had been
Lawrence of Arabia, so I think the toffs have it!!
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