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Dark0ne
After doing some grundgy looking around in the server log files I found a number of bandwidth leechers all originating from China. Bandwidth leechers cause mini Denial of Service attacks as they take up multiple (often 50+) connections and use up the servers entire bandwidth, meaning people either cannot connect to the server or download at very low transfer rates.

Aside from IP banning these people, which isn't very preventative in this day and age, I will also be looking to limit the total number of connections each IP can open on the file server. This limit will probably be set at 3. What does this mean? Essentially, you will only be able to download 3 files at a time from a file server, or, if you use a download manager and have found a way to get it to work with this site, you will only be able to make 3 threads for your download.

Hopefully we'll all be seeing faster downloads and less IPS Driver errors on the site very soon!
Viperslayer
Didn't this happen once before?
What bastards...
bfkdarthrevan
Those chinese again, they're just wrecking the entire world
}{ellKnight
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Ah well, I never downloaded more than 3 files at once so I can live with it!
herosinger
What }{ellKnight said.
Pujangga
Eh... them again? confused.gif
Naaah, not being rude and racist here, but... looks like they always mess with this innocent site mellow.gif

(I still remember about the weird slash character attack...)
buddah
multiple simultaneous downloads on my 24k dial up.......RIGHT, rofl lmfao
arcano200
At least you caught them

I never downloaded 3 files simultaneously, so it's fine as long as the download speed isn't lower
MatriDunadan
Just so you know, downThemAll the Firefox download manager extension, works on this site with no problems.

Besides, with download speeds being what they are on this site, 3 connections is more than enough.
MalakaiV
I'm on a cablemodem and have never tried to load more than 2 files at once, mostly because if I'm loading a Mod I like to load it, open Oblivion to check to see if it causes immediate conflicts, then move on to the next one. This 'slow' method has saved me great pains when conflicts did occur, I'd know exactly from what.

I can't imagine trying to hunt down one conflict if I've just loaded 50 mods at once. Needle ----> Haystack. Bleh. Those silly Chinese. Thank you for looking into the issue, perhaps now I'll get more than 15k on the Texas server (when I LIVE in Texas)!
Dark0ne
Just so folks know, I'm still looking into this 3 connections thing and it has not been implemented yet. It will hopefully be done shortly but I'm moving my room back to Exeter tomorrow for the new uni term!
Firesea
China's one child policy has created a generation of "little emperors", where it's all about them and screw everyone else.
Marxist ßastard
Don't IP ban them. Just watch for their connections, and inject the words "freedom" and "democracy" in their HTTP headers.
Sage Rime
I guess it was just a matter of time when bandwidth leechers showed up in numbers... any estimate on how many computers they are using?

I've had many IPS Driver Errors & choppy downloads myself, so I'm cool with the 3 file download limit... it's not like I need to download 8 mods at exactly the same time.

I suppose you could also ban IPs by country, stopping all Chinese IPs from accessing the Nexus... of course, that wouldn't be fair to the average Chinese user.
ninja_lord666
QUOTE(Firesea @ Jan 6 2008, 01:27 AM) *
China's one child policy has created a generation of "little emperors", where it's all about them and screw everyone else.

Yes, but if they didn't have that, China's population would be even more than it is now.

I agree with Sage. I haven't actually met any real member on this site from China, and besides, it's not like TESNexus is the only place for Oblivion mods. It may be the best, but not the only. If there is a non-leech Chinese that simply wants mods, they'll just have to go somewhere else.
AngelofE
What bastards, what the hell do they have to gain from sucking the bandwidth from this site? God damn Chinese. That would explain the slow speeds I've been having at least.
Vorians
Well, you must have done something to stop the leechers, today my downloads from Nexus have tripled in speed! Never had such a fast download from Nexus since Source went down smile.gif
ninja_lord666
QUOTE(AngelofE @ Jan 6 2008, 04:08 PM) *
What bastards, what the hell do they have to gain from sucking the bandwidth from this site?

Uh...free bandwidth?
AorB
Would it be possible for you to establish a Chinese TesNexus server? Would someone over there volunteer?

You know, it might be interesting to find out. And it wouldn't be too hard to contact someone whose e-mail address you have on file.
sapphire49
Maybe we should bomb China?
arcano200
No, they would bomb us back, after all they have enough nukes to destroy earth a few times.
Stormraven
I was getting alot of "IPS Driver Errors". Was this why?
buddah
Yes that would most likely have been the cause, maximum connections to the server or lack of available bandwidth.

Buddah
rob_b
Well, I guess it goes without saying "Hacked by Chinese!" tongue.gif laugh.gif
ninja_lord666
QUOTE(arcano200 @ Jan 7 2008, 11:07 AM) *
No, they would bomb us back, after all they have enough nukes to destroy earth a few times.

We have multiple more nukes than the rest of the world combined, but the reason we should bomb them, is because India and China are the future of the world. They are currently where we where in the early 1800s. In a couple decades, they'll be dominating world economy. If we bomb them now, that'll be a huge set back of the future of the world.
That doesn't mean we have to like them, though. wink.gif
Dark0ne
The early 1800's? Are you serious? We were fighting Napoleon back in those days -- I think they're quite a bit further than that...
ninja_lord666
Ah, right. Late 1800s. China is currently in their Industrial Revolution which we were in during the late 1800s.
Paul Emil
The IPS driver errors are soon to be exorcised? Wahey! Farewell to bad drivers!
arcano200
Well you say they're the future of the world, I don't thinks so, unless you want Europe full of Chinese.
If you want my opinion I think theres too many of them.
ninja_lord666
Europe? Europe's time ended long ago; it ended when US crashed through the roof and took the lead. Now the US s slowing down, and China and India are taking up the reigns of leadership. Pretty soon, they'll be the new cultural centres of the world.
Marxist ßastard
QUOTE(Dark0ne @ Jan 7 2008, 04:01 PM) *
We were fighting Napoleon back in those days

No we weren't; we were buying cheap land from him, made possible through his military victories against all those lime-sucki--- OH!

Right, I see what you meant by that. Sorry.
Firesea
Lol, population doesn't make for cultural domination. When was the last time you wanted to do something that is a chinese or indian cultural custom? How many can you even name?
ninja_lord666
Moron, I said nothing about population. China and India are undergoing their Industrial Revolutions which will skyrocket their technology allowing them to focus more of their resources on education which will in turn lead to smarter people and an overall more dominant country. The exact thing happened to the US. At first, no one in the currently dominating power of Europe thought America was going to become anything even remotely close to important, but once the Industrial Revolution happened, America boomed in every way possible launching us into the main super power of the world. China and India are at that very stage. You may think they are nothing and unimportant, but anyone who passed US History and has at least half a brain can see that not too far off in the distance, they'll be the new world leaders.
You are also completely ignorant in other ways too. When I said, "cultural centres of the world," I was not referring to ancient history. I was referring to modern culture. How you got the two mixed up is completely baffling. Our current culture has nothing to do with ancient customs, so why would future culture? Just because the cultural capitalmoves means that culture completely changes it's meaning?
QUOTE
cul·ture
–noun
1. the quality in a person or society that arises from a concern for what is regarded as excellent in arts, letters, manners, scholarly pursuits, etc.

You notice in there it never once mentions history. Modern culture in America is movies, iPods, secret lives of celebrities, video games, etc. By changing the main cultural area, you just change the influence. So, instead of movies, iPods, secret lives of celebrities, video games, etc. you'll have Chinese movies, iPods, secret lives of Chinese celebrities, Chinese video games, etc.

Also, just for the record, the Chinese communist government eliminated most, if not all, ancient customs. So, to answer your question, yes, I can name all Chinese customs: work, more work, and the government is always right.
buddah
Lets try and keep this on topic.....it is getting a little sidetracked.

I would rather not edit or delete things.....please; a little tolerance of the views of others.
Firesea
Dear Miss Cleo (aka ninja_lord666),

Your speculation and conjecture must obviously be correct since your analysis is completely infallible, taking into account all possible factors.

That being said, according to you, "Industrial Revolutions" must be one time events that temporarily propel nation states into "Super-powers". I guess the benefits must have somehow faded away from places like Europe and the US.

I have no idea what you rambling about culture has to do with anything. Did I say anything about ancient culture? So far you haven't listed any Chinese or Indian cultural fixtures that have been adopted into mainstream western culture. You seem to assume that economic clout will directly translate into cultural influence.

It's too bad you didn't look at your own definition of culture as well, since two paragraphs down you highlight the repressive and controlling nature of the Chinese communist government which censors and controls the media there. This restrictive environment must be ideal conditions for artistic development, at least in your eyes.

I hope you had fun reading this, and I sincerely hope that you are red in the face and swearing under your breath like the airhead you are.

Dark0ne
This has run it's cause smile.gif
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