the gifts I could not see

This was instantly deleted from the Bethsoft forum.
It is not meant as hatred towards any one but as an examination of who I am personally.

I have chosen to spurn the bethsoft forum but not the ES community. OK?

These are the gifts I could not see.
I am "your-a pee-on". I tell people who is a pee-on.
I goto Africa and rape a continent and I say "you're a pee-on".
I make a pilgrimage to "a promised land" and I say "You're a pee-on".
I rape another continent.
I kill the truth so I can ravage the land. God said I could.

I am not that that is.
It is so hard to live with what I have done in the name of God...
I would return the land I stole to the people I killed...
But they are dead...
I would learn from the truth and befriend the Human beings...
But they are gone.
I am so', not worthy. But I live.
How do I live while they die?
Why is life like a lie.

I would reach back and stop my attack.
I would choose a path of wisdom.

Am I wrong.?
I would stop the Corporation
I would build the cooperation


No---..., am I "you're a pee-on"?

Now am I American?


I would rape the universe because I am what I am...
I am what I was meant to be.
I am a tool.

From what I get out of this, you are saying that you're guilty that your ancestors pillaged and destroyed other places for their own wants and needs, right? I agree that what they did was wrong, so very wrong, but it doesn't concern me, nor should it concern you. I am my own person; you are your own person. What your great-great-great-great-great-grandfather may or may not have done doesn't mean anything anymore. He's long since dead. What he may or may not have done is ancient history, and you can't change the past. All you have to worry about is what you, yourself have done, and you didn't "rape a continent." You shouldn't feel guilt for something someone else did.

Well, although you say:
Some of your statements will be considered religious.



Although I'm religious, this does not offend me, because I know it is a poem of sorts. But it can be considered very offensive. My advice is to change it, because it is against the rules to mention anything concerning religions.

I say again that I am not offended by this, I can see you don't mean it offending, but I thought I'd just give you some advice.

cya

Fritz

Well, have you ever played the Elder Scrolls IV (which I assume you do)

if so, try the mod, Tears of the Fiend, that would give something you can relate to...

If you truly feel guilty for the Crimes of your ancestors who have raped and pillaged this earth, then who is truly innocent?

We rape the forests to build our houses..

We scar the earth for ore to create our roads and commercial buildings..

This is why i don't think i agree that we are to blame for our ancestor's actions. (If this is what you meant by it.)

If this would be the case, Christians and Catholics would be the bane of Pagans everywhere for what their forefathers did to the Witches and Pagans, but as a Druid, i know several Christians who are not like this, they embrace my religion, and i embrace them, but i do not embrace the Christ, as i do not......Let me just stop there, i really do not want to be so cruel.

Interesting bit of dialogue though, regarding Bethesda deleting this. They're really starting to piss me off with their racket and crap.

Some how this thread is not on the list of threads I'm notified about. I just happened to see it near the top of the list today. I have a responsibility to monitor it so I will now.

About the OP: I don't believe that it was only my ancestors who have wronged Earth. I believe that for most of my life I have gone along with a system that willfully allows and even participates in heinous crimes against Nature and humanity. I have fully enjoyed the fruits of said crimes and even as I became aware of them I said nothing. I once swore an oath as I enlisted into the armed forces that makes me culpable for the actions of a nation that, though improving, still dose not fully atone for or even acknowledge these crimes.

I have amended my post. I hope that it is more acceptable. Thank you for your help.

Of course, I allways like to help... I have seen it many times: great works of art being deleted because some minority was offended by it, just because they did not understand it. I'm very glad you changed it a bit, it will allmost certainly spare a lot of trouble in the future

Fritz