I want to have Pixel Shading on my Morrowind. So I go into Options, and look at the option to turn it on. It is off. I cant make it go on either, My mouse can't click the little button thingie. Is this because I have the Nivida GForce 4? Plz help.

Hmm... I don't think that the MX's puny little girl fists can handle pixel shading. Get a Radeon 9600.

The GeForce 4 Ti supports pixel shading, the MX does not. So which GeForce 4 do you have?

Yeah, i had the MX and it wouldn't let me do pixel shading....um...also...does anyone know if the geforceFX series will beable to do pixle shading?

Thanks

Luminus

MX. Better than my old computer. I couldn't even play Allied Assault.

ive got a GeForce fx 5200 that can do pixel shading

Luminus, I suggest that you reconsider. nVidia is a pretty bad choice right about now, at least if you have any application that uses DirectX instead of OpenGL, Morrowind being one of those applications.

I also suggest that nVidia's new slogan become "The way we want it to be played," in light of their unofficial driver releases that override user graphics settings to increase benchmark results.

OpenGL? OpenGL is a type of Voodoo driver not Nvidia... and my GeForce4ti 4200 runs Morrowind just fine...

My understanding is that OpenGL is a standardized graphics language used as an alternative for DirectX. DirectX, however, is being used in most Windows games nowadays because it also consists of audio and input handling code.

ID Software, however, stands by OpenGL. And since ID and nVidia are in bed with each other, nVidia's newer cards work with nothing but OpenGL, as shown in Half-Life 2 benchmarks.

All I can say is I'm running a Radeon 5800LE (128Mb) and had been for months before I found the pixel-shaders button and "turned them on"... Wow! I was stunned at the difference it made. If you're card ain't supportin' pixel shaders, Morrowind is reason enough to upgrade to one that does, IMO.

My Geforce 4 Ti 4200 works very will with DirectX - currently DirectX 9

Same here. My version's 8.something but that's just because I haven't had any real reason to upgrade (yet). I've never used OpenGL drivers with an Nvidia, I didn't even know it could support them!

The problems are in games using DX9-specific code... If you run any given DX9 game that'll be released in a month or so, those cards will flounder.

So if we run a DirectX 9 game with DirectX 9 drivers installed the game won't run properly? Yeah! That makes sense.

....what kind of question is that "will the fx series have a pixel shader"...or course it will, it needs that and the vertex shader for the beatiful effects in...doom 3...or something else, whilst you people are in....water reflection heaven spare a thought for the little people with dodgy pentium 3's that can barely run the game

good thing im gettin a new comp soon, i swear i just saw the monitor button fall off...

*cough thats BS *cough

Not to sure how you come to that conclusion Marxist. I am a NVidia 4 Ti 4200 user and currently play Direct X 9 games with NO problems. You may want to back up that statement with some facts. <curious more than anything>

Hell, you know me. I would never make a statement without appropriate proof.

Here is a report on a presentation from the Gabester himself concerning nVidia's driver tamperings and generally poor performance with all types of pixel shader without application-specific code. Note that nVidia has their driver police working 24/7 to "fix" games that weren't working at a satisfactory level. Our boys up in Canada do not need anything of the sort.

Want to see it with your own eyes? These are the screenshots from a fairly good and open DX9 benchmarking utility. As you can see, the newer nVidia card sacrifices visual quality (and probably also stability) to gain a few extra FPS, but still gets smacked in the face by that near-ancient 9500 Pro.