Have a look at these two pics - One is Narsil before it was broken and the other Reforged Anduril. Now assuming that these are what they appear like in the movie (which I'm pretty positive they are since the guy who makes them appears to pay lots to detail) - I think The old blade looks heaps better, It appears to have a longer..hilt(i think thats the word?) or handle, then Anduril.

Narsil (longer handle)



Andurl (shorter handle)


What do you guys think? Think it looks shorter? Think that is better or worse?

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I eerr meant the length of either the Black grip, or from the end of the black grip to the bottom tip of the sword seems shorter.

I'm not sure if these are exactly the same as the movie. Those were hand made by professional swordsmiths, while these are mass produced wall hangers.

I'd still take Anduril because of the runes.

yeh, different swords, i would think the longer hilt looks more heroic and intimidating

My point exactly,

BTW these aren't mass produced - they're made by "Blads by Brown" http://www.bladesbybrown.com/index.htm

Actually they are quite possibly mass-produced...but I doubt it..

When Aragorn raises Anduril at the Black Gates http://www.theonering.net/movie/preview/ro...iler01_10.html# I think it looks pretty intimidating, especially with the orcs charging.

Compared to his ranger sword, Anduril is definitely more kingly looking, which I believe will come across well. By giving Anduril in the third movie, he loses that wandering loner mystery, and becomes a true leader.

I like Anduril better than Narsil.

What are youy saying??!?!?!?!? They are the SAME freekin' sword i that is like saying, what do you like more; ketchup or katsup!!

Well not exactly...One was broken, and then the pieces rejoined. It has different inscribings aswell..and why would the sword change names if it is exactly the same thing?

Wrong.


They are produced bt United Cutlery.

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Had it in my favorites for a month now...

Maybe I spoke wrongly. I meant that they are not contact functional, just for costumes or decoration. The hilt would snap if swung against something.



True, but also sold http://www.bladesbybrown.com/lotr.html

Yes but if you actaully want something that will cut then you go with United Cutlery. The site is dedicated to finding only the best swordsmiths; nothing that goes on that site isn't worth paying for (but be prepared to pay a lot of cash for anything).

I'm a sucker for plain looking swords, runes and stuff just don't do it for me, Narsil, as in the Fellowship openning sequence, is what I'd want at my side. You can still be kingly and not have all the flashy equipment, which to me says you rely more on skill than what you're carrying around.

NM: I looked at the steel quality and almost threw up...anything 420 stainless I wouldn't even take off the wall....If you want something that will hack and slash and never get scratched even go for a 1050 High Carbon Tempered sword or twisted Damascus steel. You could cut a car in half with that quality steel.

And those LOTR swords are way overpriced, sure they might look nice, but I'm not gonna fork over that much cash for something I can't actaully use in SCA format.

But - Do you guys think Peter Jackson's Representation of Narsil or Anduril is better?

how can the hilt or handle or what ever be longer on the old one. That part wasnt broken. It would be the same one. The blade is the only thing thats different and thats just because of the runes.

I think Jackson did an ok job. Though Aragorn (in the Books) had Narsil reforged into Andruil just before the Fellowship left Imladris. Also, didn't Andruil shine like Sting? I could have sworn that it had some sort of glow or aura about it. But I oculd be mistaken. It was just the way Tolkien described the blade, that made it seem as if it had light of its own.

Needless to say, the whole 'Isilidur getting lucky by hacking Sauron's fingers off' scene wasn't originaly intended. In The Art of The FotR there is a sketch of the Mural before the Shards of Narsil that depicts Sauron defeated, but with the bodies of Elenidl and Gil-Galad about him. He is on his back and streching out his hand (Ring bearing hand). Standing over him is Isilidur, raising the Hilt Shard of Narsil to cut the Ring from Sauron's hand. It looks a lot better than the other Mural, IMO.

I wish that they would have filmed it this way (the correct way Sauron was defeated), since in Tolkien's world, whenever Sauron came in person to battle he was always defeated. Sauron was a more 'behind the scenes' sort of bad guy. Better at getting others to do his dirty work, rather than him doing it himself.

I think Anduril looks better. Narsil's handle is longer, but the runes on the other make it look sweet...

I think Anduril looks better, I like the small golden parts on the sword.

To answer your question Mayken, a smith would need to rebuild the hilt in order to hold the tang of the sword blade. Thus the differences in the hilt style between Narsil and Andruil. The hilt is the grip built around the tang giving the wielder stability.

Just as an aside, it's also interesting to note that Gandalf's sword Glamdring (The Foe Hammer) also shone in the presence of Orcs and it is never mentioned as such in any of hte movies. I think that PJ left that out of the movies because having another famous magical sword in the mix would be confusing.

I like the new one better it has a more kingly appaerance.

I think in the books there were three swords that "shone" when orcs were present, sting, orcrist (Thorin Oakenshield's sword) en glamdring. Narsil or Anduril did not.

Wasn't quite a few of thwe swords famous, in the books i mean? I read somewhere that the swords Merry and Pippin are given by Aragorn were, by some amazing co-incidence, the same swords that Theoden and Faramir carried as yound warriors. Thios could be pure bullpoo, but i thought i'd see what everyone else meant.

They were elven swords. I can't imagine how Theoden would aquire one. Besides, they found them in the Barrow-downs, in the tomb of some long-dead men.

In the books there is something said to the effect of, "and to pippin, a blade from a prince of gondor was given."

In the Weapons and Warfare guide book from the movie, they tell us that Aragorn gave Pippin a short sword wielded by Faramir when he was a young prince, and gave Merry a sword he acquired in Rohan. This took place on weathertrop.

The swords were lost when Merry and Pippin dropped them while being carried of by Sarumans Urak-Hai raiding party shortly after the death of Boromir at Amon Hen.

I'm not sure how we'll get clearer information on the subject, besides asking Tolkien himself, or Daerk.

In the books, IIRC it is Tom Bombadil who gives the hobbits swords from the hoard of the barrow-wights after their narrow escape.

IIRC Merry and Pippin lose their swords when they are taken captive by the orcs, but the swords are returned to them at Isengard by Aragorn.

Merry's sword pierces the sinew of the witch-king - and it was remarked upon in the book how the blade had been forged long ago in the northern kingdom for the wars against Angmar....


However, as I recall it is the shield Merry receives when he is kitted out in Rohan that used to belong to Theoden.

Yay, someone else has it too! Thank you for backing up what i said, but as you probably already know the book is based on the films not the books, so whatever is written should be taken with a large pinch of sceptism.

A VERY LARGE pinch of scepticism.

Films' best quality is not being consistent with Tolkien's works, sadly.