This topic has been created to discuss the poll below on TESSource.net.

How do you rate Oblivion?

I love the game. One of the best I've ever played!

I enjoy playing it, but there's definately room for improvement

I don't like what they've done at all

I haven't played it yet

I love the game. One of the best I've ever played!

Though a lot of it is due to my own personal taste. For me it's exactly what I was looking for. Now that I have modified it at least.

The next option seemed a bit too 'meh'...I love the game, there is room for improvement, but not so much that it hampers any enjoyment I get out of it.

There's room for improvement, there always is. Most notable is the lack of a merge function in the CS, and that mods can't communicate.

I love it!!

I really like the arrow effects, just how detailed are were the shots are placed, I have never gotten that many headshots before. And to have the NPCs accully talk to you in responce to your questions is superb.

I really like the mini games, I didnt think I would but I do lol. and being a theif is a bit easier but more complex so I really have to pay attention to whats going on around me.

Oblivion is one of the best RPGs I've ever played! The environments are superbly rendered, the arsenal of weapons, armor, and various items plentiful, and the side quests are quite the enjoyment. Numerous hours must be devoted to Oblivion to get the full experience from it, but that's exactly the way an RPG should be - time-consuming and intricate on as many levels as possible. IMHO, this game is truly an accomplishment, yet there is always plenty of room for improvement.

LAY OFF THE GRAPHICS! LOL

I thought my system would have no trouble at all with this game.. boy was I mistaken. Here's my system config:

AND Athlon64 3800+ Venice @ 2.4GHz
2GB Corsair XMS Dual Channel DDR400
200GB Seagate SATA II HDD
512MB Radeon x1600 Pro

With this hw, I still only get around 20-40 fps, depending on the situation. I think I need to upgrade again to get the full enjoyment ^_^

I really enjoy it, but room for improvement, as ever. ^^ They've definitely improved on some areas from Morrowind - but then seem to have made the mistake of removing some of the good bits from Morrowind and replacing them with new, annoying or even flawed systems. It's still a darn sight better than 95% of RPGs you'll run into nowadays, though.

I love the game. One of the best I've ever played!

Definately. Although the awesome graphics lag on occasion (namely when there are fire effects present)

Hey somebody else who likes logo's! HWeee!

*ahem*

I've gotten it...

Have to agree with switch. i could pick out stuff that's wrong but i'm not sure which is due to Oblivion and which to the Evil Harddrive Clickings of DOOM which the computer is producing...

Odd that, I have a less powerful system (athlon64 3500+, 1GB RAM, Radeon 9800 Pro 256MB (I think)) and I have no problems when using default settings, except for outdoors near oblivion gates for some reason.
Are you sure you have the newest drivers? And are you using 64-bit windows? I am, and I recommend it compared to 32-bits. For those who have 64-bit processors that is

Mark me down for 2 "LOVE IT!!!", my g/f pretty much plays it everyday while im at work and when i come home i play it while shes at work. I thought the game would have one hell of a time living up to its own hype but it came real close.

I voted that i "enjoyed playing the game, but that theres definately room for improvement"
mods will certainly fill in everything i feel Oblivion is lacking, which would boost that poll to a "best game ever" if i wasnt only voting for vanilla Oblivion. As far as how well it plays... i dont have my system specs on hand, other than a good 3+ gig RAM, but the game plays wonderfully with high fps with only a few occasional fps hits, then resets back to normal in a few seconds(never bothered to check the actual amount since its high enough that it doesnt matter) most reviews i see give it a 9.5/10 rating,... i would have to disagree and give it a 9.8/10

Free roaming.
No random battles (Man they get annoying in some games and it takes you out of the experience i think).
I really feel like part of the story (Being able to have consequences for actions is where its at).
The graphics are so mind blowing it definatly has almost a tolkien'esque air to it without copying it or ripping it off in any way.

Yes oblivion is just an amzing experience and the customisation makes it even better (If you can build it in real life its only right you can build it in game (modding reference)).

Could be improved in some areas but if I said where it would just be nit picking.

100% masterpiece.

Oblivion is in my triumvirate of games that are examples of how their genre should be made. It rubs shoulders with Rome: Total War (no other game on the market has the right to call itself a strategy game) and Far Cry (for its freeform and double-hard AI)/HL2 (for its story-telling, not much else).

Oblivion does so many things so very well, its hard to pick out favourite features. True, there are definitely bits that can be improved on, but IMO we'll never get a game that would truly win 100%. The forced limitations of the CS are probably the biggest bad thing about the game, but aside from that issue I can't think of anything huge that I would change. I could definitely play the game all the way through in complete contentment without any plugins.

9/10 LOVE IT!

I gave only 9, cos of map limitation (yups, i had like 95% of land
explored in morrowind)

I don't like what they've done at all.

Dumbed down, short main quest, and too few guilds all lead to what feels like an empty experience with little to no replayability, and no ability to roleplay truly different characters. Quite simply put, it's no longer what I consider an RPG. It's an adventure game with a few RPG elements haphazardly thrown in for cosmetic purposes.
Unfortunately, they've completed the process they started with Morrowind... ruining what had been a great line of RPG titles.
Back to Daggerfall, Planescape:Torment, and BGII for me.

Hi Beachbum. Always good to see a longtime member.

I am surprised though that you feel you cannot roleplay truly different characters, right now I am running 3 very different styles of roleplay. (1 being my main melee hero, the other being my Khajiit murderer/assassin and the last being...heh my very poor peasant who is just trying to get by and make ends meet.)

I think some people accused Ultima VII of being an adventure game in comparison to the heavily drawn out previous titles. (Namely IV and V) I know, I know, Stampede is talking about Ultima VII again...but for me that's the benchmark of CRPGs.

I suppose it appeals to different styles of play, though I am still trying to define what those differences are. I found Daggerfall to be a rather dead world of copied towns and meaningless NPCs, though I agree it has one of the greatest plots in any computer game ever.

As far as Planescape and BG2 go, good games, but too linear for my tastes (Throne of Bhaal was a guided by the hand experience.)

I strongly disagree that there are only a few RPG elements thrown into Oblivion though. I have found it to be a really immersive RPG and I would like to consider myself a CRPG veteran. (Been playing them on the PC for 13 years now.)

After sneaking through an entire Oblivion area and closing the gate after killing no more than 10 daedra (most of whom I killed for sport...) I have to say that it's possible to roleplay an assassin type character at least

Not "One of",but THE best I've played to date.

I have only played it a moderate way (spent more time modding than actually playing so am only level 6 at the moment).

I voted that I enjoy it but room for improvement.

My pros for the game are
~Improved graphics (which are very nice in places, particularly when you get out doors some of the views are incredible)
~More stable scripting than morrowind (for the modders, even if it is still limited)
~Fast travel
~Lock Picking is kinda a cool little reasonably well thought out mini-game
~Full speech everywhere
~NPC with NPC interaction, it is cool listening in on others conversations
~Daily schedules for the npcs to give the game world more life and depth
~Fight system is very impressive and has a real dynamic feel to the battles
~Expansive free form game world, and one of the few traditional style rpgs (for pc anyway)
~Overall the attention to design and detail shows, and absorbs you in.

My cons are (some minor, some not so minor)
~Water was not improved as much as I was hoping and isn't as good as in other games
~Some of the faces and bodies in the game are kinda yuck (although this may be a graphic setting on my computer)
~Although the custom face generation is a neat idea, actually working it is a major headache with the spagetti linked sliders (plus I also suspect this system may prevent modders introducing custom meshes for the players head??)
~Some of the animation is particularly clunky
~Leveled gameplay system takes a lot of fun out of exploring dungeons and new areas, plus also messes with the realism of the game (hit level 20 and common bandits start showing up in daedric gear as though there was a clearance sale at Walmart).
~Quests are quite restrictive in the choices you can make, and even make NPC's unkillable till their role in the quest is complete.
~Pace of the main quest line feels a bit faster than I personally like.
~Atmosphere and coolness factor doesn't quite match up to Morrowind for me.


I have decided that it is definitely enjoyable enough that I am wanting to upgrade my computer to better enjoy the game (and that is gonna cost the $$ )

For all the good graphics and phiysics improvements made to the game, they reaaly did not improve the RPG aspect at all from Morrowind. Less skills, less spells, and less guilds add up to a game that leaves you wondering, why? For their next installment (I hope there is one) they really need to focus in and not only add more skills, spells, and guilds, but they need to take the next step as far as storytelling and npc interaction that were barely touched with this game. Great game though, keep it up Bethesda!

I think they really nailed it. I could'nt ask for more simply because if there is something you don't like about the game or world you can most likely find a mod to correct it or make one yourself.

I think the game does a great job of presenting a linear storyline to explore. Yet it has dozens and dozens of sidequests to occupy you if your not into things like plot and characters and want to go kill/loot crazy.

As far as a role-playing experience this is as good as it gets. You would be hard pressed to find a game more aptly suited to interjecting your own character into a world where your play and combat style really reflect in your skills so solidly.

As far as the series goes they have taken the things that worked from the past and expanded them, and things that did'nt were polished or eliminated.

in short... One of the best i've played!

Actually that aspect of the story is something I am feeling as well, I admit that I haven't finished it, but Morrowind (the obvious benchmark to compare against) had what I felt was an incredibly well thought out detailed and absorbing storyline to the main quest.

I really think that comparing Morrowind and Oblivion is like comparing a text based game and BF2. Oblivion is better at most things though it dosn't have the same depth as morrowind as far as lore and culture. I'd like more depth in Oblivion and more guilds . I'd rate Oblivion at the two top choises, it has a lot of room for improvement, but it's still the best game I've ever played mostly cause the first time you play it, it's like watching a great epic fantasy film. So more depth thats it!

I was sutisfied from Oblivion. At least in the beginning. I was lv 15 when beat the MQ. There is also the 'fast travel' which makes the world really small. What's my point? There isn't the big variaty of stuff and hidden treasures that was on Morrowind. Also this land is very small for a good navigating. That really disapoint me because I can't play as adventure. There are more less stuffs than i expected. I expected a huge and chaotic world to explore for hours. A world full of secrets and rumors. I find it on Morrowind but not on Oblivion. At least i expect to find good mods for extend that world and fill it with hidden treasures. I am really disapointed from Bethesda...

Its one of the best games I've ever played but the main quest wasn't long enough. Morrowinds was a lot longer

My vote would be somewhere inbetween.

Agreed, the main quest felt too short. So I took time off from it to work DB and Thieves guild storyline. That worked out good and all, yet I still felt like I was running errand quests (go to X to retrieve Y so you can go to Z and get A) the entire time.

*possible spoilers do not read if haven't finished game*



Needless to say though, I lost Barus and Jaufree in the final battle, and after all was said and done I had this empty feeling inside. Sure I had survived, but those that mattered to me didn't. It was a sort of "...well, what's the poing of celebrating when my companions are dead and gone?" Getting that little armor tidbit from Ocato at the end seemed like a weak consolation of doing a good job. The other thing is that after a quest is done, the quest NPCs become useless. There's no more dialogue options with them, and they usually spout a one liner with no other choice to talk. Oh yeah, where the eff are the cloaks? I was hoping for some sort of garment like that, but no such luck. And the rain still goes through arches outside, more of that acid rain from MW

Needless to say, I enjoy this game for the modding potentials it represents and the improvement from MW. I already have a dream come true, the Dragonslayer sword from Berserk and Black Armor thanks to two great mods. So all is not a total loss.

i think oblivion is very good, there are many good mods and there are just some small things that wasn't included or modded in, but who cares? it's a good game and thats what counts.

OH, i Forgot, betsheda should have kept all the weapon-types from morrowwind(like spear, halberd, wakizashi,tanto and so on). i am not forcing them, but it would have been a blast if they could combine the pros of morrowwind and oblivion. or am i totally uberwrong?

O man oblivion is an AMAZING RPG. Probably my most favourite RPG of all time now. You can't go wrong with oblivion.

Oblivion is a great game, but not a masterpeice.

Technically and combat wise the game is nearly flawless. The graphics are stunning, and combat reaches a nice balance maintaining an action feel but still an RPG at it's base. The controls are integrated nearly seamlessly, with the small exception of hotkeys on the XBOX360 version. The AI, although still not absolutely realistic, is very groundbreaking with each NPC having his or her own schedule, making quests and theiving much more involved, rather than just figuring how to get past stationary NPC's. A definite imporvement over morrowind in terms of combat and magic(being underpowered in morrowind)

The mainquest was very short, and half of it is closing those damn oblivion gates. The storyline is cliche, and seems very rushed compared to morrowind, as you know what you have to do from the first 10 minutes, as in, "let's go stop the deadric invansion but shutting a whole bunch of oblivion gate and finding the heir." and it seems like comparing the textured storyline and lore of Morrowind to oblivion is like comparing a Tolstoy Novel with a script from an OC episode.

However, there are several glaring flaws that keep oblivion from reaching the status of a masterpeice title. First is the leveled enemies, which make many character designs outside of combat nearly impossible. For instance, say you want to play a bard and you spend your time leveling up by charming NPC's and making poitions. When you reach level 10, you decide to go into a generic dungeon, and you get owned by bandits because you didn't want to make a nord that runs around smashing things with his ebony warhammer. In short, it's very hard for a non-combat character to survive at higher levels, when enemies easily overpower PC's without excellent armor and high hit point totals. It also makes the game harder at higler levels then lower levels. Let's take the seige of kvatch for example, at level one, mehurnes dagon DARES to send a few scamps to assualt kvatch. At level 30, it's a full battalion of 8 storm atronachs, 10 dremora valknaz's and 5 deadroths and ten Xivali's . This is a RPG not a shooter. The game needed to be changed from morrowind, but tougher enemies(not leveled ones) would have worked just fine. In morrowind it gave you a sense of accomplisment have your character reach near-godhood andhave everything tremble at your might(my character made an ordinator run away in terror). That gave you a sense of mastery and accomplishment. In Oblivion you don't get that feeling as much, just ridiculously powerful enemies that keep advancing and advancing.

Don't get me wrong, oblivion a blast to play and an excellent and amazing game, but it isn't good enough to get the BEST POSSIBLE RATING in my book.

Do you realize how hard it is to make a game like oblivion balanced? There are so many different combinations of characters you can create, and it's impossible to make one game balanced for all of them. Most developers know exactly how you are going to play their game, and design their game so that it works very well the that style of play. But in Oblivion, there is no way to know for sure exactly how the player is going to go about the game. Bethesda made the safe bet that most players will want to be a combat based character. Whether by sword, stealth, or magic, killin stuff's what most people want to do. This is reflected in the fact that most quests in Oblivion involve you killing something. For those few people out there that want to be a bard or some other class not focused on combat, Oblivion will be hard and they won't be able to get very far in anything (with the exception of a sealth based char in the Thevies guild) For Oblivion to be pefectly balanced for all characters, the game would have to radically change around every single way you can play the game. That just isn't resonable from a design standpoint. Leveled enemies is the way to go in a game like this, they just have problems with difficulty when the players gets into the later levels. Just making them all tougher would make the game too hard for low level players. Same problem, different curcumstances. And that sense of godhood isn't a good thing, it made the game boring. You spend all that time getting the best stuff and leveling up your character to such power, and you still go into bandit caves and fight bandits wearing chitin armor and weilding iron sabers. There was no incentive to continue on after you get to that point. That's not what I would call fun.

Oblivion is awesome, beautiful graphics, great stoty line, huge landscape to explore, the best RPG game for PC to come out this year. There are some goods and bads about the game but hey, no one is perfect and so are the game developers. Though one thing the game lacked was better spell animation... I mean the stronger the spell the bigger the animation so there is not much of a visual difference between a snowball and a blizzard... It would be great if there was a different animation based on the spell level. For example novice ice spell would hit the opponent with ice cubes etc lol while a master ice spell would have big chunks of ice fall from the sky etc on the opponent. (But thats just my opinion) I still enjoy Oblivion a LOT, and like I said before its the best RPG game for PC to come out this year.

i love this game .... but it's room for improvment ... i wish there was more guilds , i love Dark BrootherHood guild it was the best guild. Anyway grat game

ya i totally agree, there sould be a bandit guild, bethesda should be reading this forum for their next mod

Love it.

Hmm, please try to flesh your posts out a bit in future, Chris. Just posting one-liners is spammy. Thanks. ^^

i rate this game a 10 outa 10 its my faverit game rite now

i would like a imperial wach guild though because i like the imperial wach gard captin armor but when i kill one of them dudes i cant get thier armor so that sucks but there is so many good things about this game that one thing cant mess this great game up

i love this game. 11/10 < although that is impossible

Yeah, I'd have to say I love the game, and I'm sure there are reasons they did the things they did with the game. Like some people claim the lack of merchants supply chests is lame, well think about it. I have a level 6 character(had to reformat HD due to bad drivers that crashed system) who can sneak at night time right under someone's nose, then jump on their head and bounce around without getting noticed. Now if I can do that at level 6, think about higher level characters, the game would get too easy. It would be sell expensive enchanted armor, steal back, sell, etc. Bethesda did an exellent job, but I will be real pissed if in two years the come out with TES: 5, because who has a PC that could run it? Oh, and that gets me to thinking, I wonder what the rigs specs are for the PC they played it on...

Well...it is the best game I ever played, or saw, or heard of or read of... for me it is a model of perfection among games.

ps: duh 10/10

It's really the best game I've ever known of. Beautiful and breathtaking sights, NPCs with their own cherector, awsome cities... playing Oblivion is just like wondering in a realm totally different from the one we're living in---a realm full of magic, strange creatures, different races, and danger. However, there ARE rooms which are yet to improve. NPCs' reactions, can't do fights on horsebacks, people usually don't know that it was YOU who did those great deeds... Despite of those little flaws, I still rate Oblivion a 10 out of 10! I'm lovin' it!

good. but whoever got the idea to put that levelling thing in was a complete idiot.

Its a great game! Graphic is awesome, the community totaly rox and the atmosphere is brilliant! A problem of mine is that Oblivion runs slow on my machine, but I wont reduce the effects, because then I would loose a lot of atmosphere ...

ARGHHH ....

Forest : 1-7 fps
Normal area : 10-17 fps
City : 10-25fps
Indoor : 15-40fps

Maybe I should decrease the quality about 1% ...

lol

Mixed feelings. It is probably the best game I've ever played, and I do love it, but there's always something to improve.

I enjoy playing it, but there's definately room for improvement.

I mean like there are two things that pisses me off:

1. Multiplayer, not a massive multiplayer, but something like Diablo II, it would be very nice to interact with some friends. I know that the idea is "the best singleplayer experience ever", but would it hurt that much to make this feature...

2. Interface, why the hell they didn't adapted the interface of oblivion? It doesn't look like a keyboard and mouse interface, seems that i'm playing a videogame emulatorr insted of a computer game, it's so slow and not imersive, even the eight quick slots are slow, in my opinion this game should have a more wow like interface (except for the mouse function and movimentation) with more casting buttons and etc...


Of course there is room for more improvement, but the Bethesda team left a GREAT space for modifications, and almost all the other needs of the game can be fulfilled by mods.

(thanks for listening)



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Oh, i forgot, there is also the body language... The facial expression is perfet, but the bodys don't keep up with it, like the guy that talks desperately about the oblivion gate in Kvatch, his face is in panic but his body is as relaxed as anyone elses...

I love the game. One of the best I've ever played!

It's a great game! I think it still needs improvement though, but that's only my opinion. Why is this? Well,, um... The graphics quality is too high, and my comp can't handle it.

Other than that, it's a good game.

I love the game, but there's allways room for improvement (mods).
Face it, If most people didn't at least like it why would they be here?

Its a great game but for some of those who have played Morrowind will most likely find it lacking story wise, also they could have had a couple of more guilds in Oblivion like Imperial Legion, Morag Tong, etc. I was kinda annoyed when you save Kvatch from those damn daedra, and what you get in return is nothing. I love the fact that you can add mods to it to expand on some unfinished bits. Like the Kvatch Restored Mod, which rebuilds it and makes you the count but unfortunately the other counts or it citizens dont greet you as the count of Kvatch. But anyways the story line is a bit short all you seem to do is close oblivion gates one for each city and thats most of the main quest done. So know that i have said my piece lol i will now add my scores.

Graphics 10/10
Storyline 8/10

I enjoy playing it, but there's definitely room for improvement


i'd love to be able to somehow link to hub's game and i'd love it if the game didn't crash so much... but i think thats more a my PC issue than a game thing

I love the game. One of the best I've ever played! Loved Morrowwind, now love Oblivion, but I use over 200 mods to fix up the game a bit.