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Dullahan
Ok..

I was on a gamefaqs message board, checking out the System Reqs for Oblivion. I meet every requirement, except the video card.

First question is this:

I know that even if a video card is not on the 'Supported Video Card/Chip Sets' list, i can still play it with the unsupported video card, but i won't get support for it, that's what 'Supported Video Cards' mean, i heard. So, my question would be this. I was checking out a Geforce FX 5500.. I talked to two friends of mine, both computer builders. The first one, said that it could work. the second one said, it might work, with the lowest settings.. the third friend i talked to, said it should work, even though i have an Intel 82865G Graphics chip.
So, what do you think? Will Oblivion on this video chip? I mean, if it's like how Fable runs on my PC, White Grounds, and really dim subtitles, i will be very content, even if the scenes take 30mins to load..

The second thing:

I can play Morrowind perfectly. On a hunch, i double-checked the system reqs for Morrowind, and on Gamfaqs, it says that not every computer can play Morrowind. Hell, Intel wasn't even on the supported video card list, and the cards weren't all that different from Morrowinds Video requirements.

So, like the fool i am, i bought Oblivion.

The launch Screen came up, and i clicked Options. I set everything to low. I tried to run the game. On the top-left of the screen, was a launch box. after five seconds, an error message: "Oblivion has encountered an error and needs to close." Do you think this was it crashing, or is it just a virus?

So, i reset the options to default, and a new message came up:

"Video Card Unrecognized (or unsupported) Restoring Video Settings To Medium Quality"

This got my hopes up, thinking that the realm of Hades must have frozen over and i would be able to play.. i clicked Play, and then, i got that error message..

Wuold anyone have an suggestions? or should i just give this game away..If possible, i would like to play it at least for five minutes before i give it away or something.. just to try it out..
Dark0ne
The FX series of cards are not supported for Oblivion and, I'm 99% sure, won't work on Oblivion. They are poo and a great reason to go for ATi instead, where the realm of working games is a reality.
Major Maxillary
Might this work for Oblivion?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16814102404
ixnos
that's not what supported means

in short: the list gives you the cards that WILL play oblivion...the graphics (low settings or high settings) depends on the version of the supported video card

such as black & white the first one lists Geforce 4...I have Geforce 4 440 MX and I can't seem to play it...it is either the videocard or just something else that I haven't narrowed down...then again it is a game I got cheap and not really bothered about

Morrowind: 32MB videocard is all that is required...I have 64MB so I will need to upgrade it when getting oblivion but will be going for a whole new PC by then

Oblivion: 128MB + possibly latest/recent (dating between 1-2 years) would work...personally I would go for the Geforce 6600 series or 6800 series

the Radeon 9250...hmmm probably not due to the supported videocards for the Radeon cards start at 9500 and X-series cards
Major Maxillary
???
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16814102295
Dullahan
QUOTE(Dark0ne @ Mar 26 2006, 11:53 PM) [snapback]134020[/snapback]

The FX series of cards are not supported for Oblivion and, I'm 99% sure, won't work on Oblivion. They are poo and a great reason to go for ATi instead, where the realm of working games is a reality.



* NVIDIA GeForce 7900 series
* NVIDIA GeForce 7800 series
* NVIDIA GeForce 7600 series
* NVIDIA GeForce 6800 series
* NVIDIA GeForce 6600 series
* NVIDIA GeForce 6200 series
* NVIDIA GeForce FX series

Then i am mislead.

I am trying to get the Mad Dog Dominator Geforce FX 5500 video card, made by NVIDIA. Here are the specs:

256 bit Graphics Processing Unit (GPU)
AGP 8X (Backward compatible to AGP 4X and 2X)
270 MHz GPU Clock
350 MHz RAMDAC
128 MB of DDR Memory
1.1 Billion Texels/sec. Fill Rate
68 Million Vertices/sec. Through PURE Hardware T&L (Peak)
4 Pixels per Clock Cycle (Peak)
16 Textures / Pixel (Max in a single rendering pass)
CineFX Engine
Accuview AntiAliasing
Digital Video Interface (DVI) Connector
Flat Panel Display Resolutions up to 1600 x 1200
Maximum Display Resolution of 2048 x 1536 @ 75 Hz
TV-Out Resolution up to 1024 x 768
Full support for DirectX 9 and OpenGL 1.4
DirectX and S3TC Texture Compression

Please forgive my lack of computer knowledge, but i really don;t see how this wouldn't play Oblivion at least half-way decently..

Remember, i have an Intel 82865(G) Graphics Chip, so i have to upgrade..
Dark0ne
Just skip the entire FX series! They're the biggest atrocity since the MX series!

The Radeon 9600 should work.
Theta Orionis
It runs ok on my 9600 pro - I have graphics on fairly low settings (which has the nice side effect of giving me gorgeous watercolour landscapes) and the game runs very smoothly in 800 x 600.
Dullahan
QUOTE(Theta Orionis @ Mar 27 2006, 10:54 AM) [snapback]134125[/snapback]

It runs ok on my 9600 pro - I have graphics on fairly low settings (which has the nice side effect of giving me gorgeous watercolour landscapes) and the game runs very smoothly in 800 x 600.



Apparently, Intel CAN play Oblivion.

I launched the game. It went to full screen black menu, minimized to the toolbar, set my PC in 800x600 screen mode temporarily, then the screen went black again, as if it were trying to launch then it crashes with the error message. This error, i found, is quite common, and i realize what the problem is.

A majority of us, were ripped off.

The Oblivion.exe file, the one you need to play the game, is corrupt.

We have tried contacting Customer Service at Bethesda, but to no avail.
Dullahan
QUOTE(Dark0ne @ Mar 27 2006, 10:41 AM) [snapback]134121[/snapback]

Just skip the entire FX series! They're the biggest atrocity since the MX series!

The Radeon 9600 should work.



I am aware, Robin, that the Geforce FX Series is blarney.. Unfortunately, i am a 21 year old Irish male, paying his own way through graduate school, paying for his own bills, his own home, every expense that a human adult has. Sadly, those take first priority.

If i didn't have all these expenses, i would have bought a better PC. But i guess me being ripped off by Dell (paying 1500 for a computer that was advertised on telly for 299.99 did warrent me a half-way decent computer apparently, lol.. or even a semi decent one..)

So, with me, my question.

Will a FX 5500 card work AT ALL? I don;t care how it runs, i just would like to know if it won't crash. Because this PC can play other games with barely a glitch -even Halo 2..

My computer's video card is sporratic and unpredictable.
Dullahan
Major Max, thank you for waiting so patiently for an answer to your question. If i could help, i would, but i am not that computer savvy, so even if i were to make an educated guess, it may not work for you, and you would have uselessly used your money.

However, if a qualified person were to take a stab at it? Hint hint :-)
Switch
Just so you know, Dullahan, you can edit your post if you want to add to it after posting. This is generally a good idea, unless posting an update after a day or something. Double or triple posting, unless entirely necessary, is considered to be spam. Thanks.
Dullahan
QUOTE(Switch @ Mar 27 2006, 06:06 PM) [snapback]134209[/snapback]

Just so you know, Dullahan, you can edit your post if you want to add to it after posting. This is generally a good idea, unless posting an update after a day or something. Double or triple posting, unless entirely necessary, is considered to be spam. Thanks.


whoa!!! Forum-lingo is mindboggling!

I thought double-and-triple posting was posting the same thing verbatim over, and over, and over again.

This, i didn't do.
ixnos
double and triple posting = 2 or 3 posts from the same member one after another...unless the first post was made yesterday and then the second post a day later or so...spamming is mainly posting useless text or many posts saying the same thing and so on

the Radeon 9600 should play this game and with decent settings

also the oblivion.exe isn't corrupt...due to a virus ironically also being named Oblivion.exe, anti-virus and such think the .exe is the virus, not the game...then again I haven't had first hand experience with oblivion...yet so it could be corrupt but I seriously doubt unless Beth Soft decided to skip the testing phase which I also seriously doubt

also the MX series isn't all bad..ok not good compared to today's cards but I'll have you know that 3-4 years ago MX was on top the Nvidia card list...and my 64MB 440MX card plays Morrowind on all high settings and many other games too...except of course the most recent games sad.gif
Dullahan
QUOTE(ixnos @ Mar 27 2006, 11:15 PM) [snapback]134277[/snapback]

double and triple posting = 2 or 3 posts from the same member one after another...unless the first post was made yesterday and then the second post a day later or so...spamming is mainly posting useless text or many posts saying the same thing and so on

the Radeon 9600 should play this game and with decent settings

also the oblivion.exe isn't corrupt...due to a virus ironically also being named Oblivion.exe, anti-virus and such think the .exe is the virus, not the game...then again I haven't had first hand experience with oblivion...yet so it could be corrupt but I seriously doubt unless Beth Soft decided to skip the testing phase which I also seriously doubt

also the MX series isn't all bad..ok not good compared to today's cards but I'll have you know that 3-4 years ago MX was on top the Nvidia card list...and my 64MB 440MX card plays Morrowind on all high settings and many other games too...except of course the most recent games sad.gif



*sigh*

Can someone answer my question regarding FX 5500 please? Remember. after i pay my expenses, i'm usually broke lol..
Dark0ne
QUOTE
I am aware, Robin, that the Geforce FX Series is blarney.. Unfortunately, i am a 21 year old Irish male, paying his own way through graduate school, paying for his own bills, his own home, every expense that a human adult has. Sadly, those take first priority.


I'm aware of monetary problems -- I'm 19 paying my way through Exeter University, both accommodation and tuition fees and everything else inbetween.

Regarding the FX series, I have no idea, all I'll say is that I'd be surprised if it did work.

QUOTE
also the MX series isn't all bad..ok not good compared to today's cards but I'll have you know that 3-4 years ago MX was on top the Nvidia card list...and my 64MB 440MX card plays Morrowind on all high settings and many other games too...except of course the most recent games


The MX series was designed for graphic designers and the like and then deceptively marketted by nVidia to the gaming world, and lots of people took the bait. The MX series was for business, the Ti series was for gaming and, obviously, a lot of people bought the MX series since all they looked at was the memory capacity ("OH LOOK! A 128MB GFX card! It must be good!") and price, and not the actual performance of the cards.

Honestly. The MX series was bad!
Dullahan
Right.

So, i could either get a ATI Radeon 9250 video card that doesn't support DirectX 9, or i could get a FX 5500 card that does support DirectX 9, but as you say, is blarney., although both fit my price range, although the ATI card stretches out my budget

Honestly, i'm torn.

The only others i have found are for AGP. I do not have an AGP slot. So that is definately out.

But if the Geforce FX series cards won't play, why the bleeding hades does it say it's compatible with Oblivion????(insert caplocks)

Final Edit


OBLIVION : WINDOWS XP : RESOLUTION 23507

Q: Performance issues on systems with an Nvidia FX card.

A: The game does indeed work on every FX card, but the performance may not be what you want depending on your PC.(Dullahan's Note: Remember, i never said i expected perfection) We suggest upgrading to a better FX card (see list of FX "Performance" cards below) or even a card above that.


GeForce FX 5950 Ultra
GeForce FX 5900 Ultra
GeForce FX 5900
GeForce FX 5900 XT
GeForce PCX 5900
GeForce FX 5700 Ultra
GeForce FX 5700
GeForce FX 5700LE
GeForce PCX 5750


Try these tips to improve performance on a system with an Nvidia FX series card.

1. Set the game options to run at the lowest possible settings. Set the game resolution to 640 x 480, low detail, and shadows off.

2. Run a scandisk and defrag on the hard drive
3. Shut down all background applications and processes before launching the game.
4. Make sure your processor and memory are above the minimum required, that will help offset the performance issues with the video card.
5. Make sure you have the latest drivers for the video card installed.

Straight from www.support.bethesda.com

Does anyone have anything to say about this?

Please, amuse me.
Theta Orionis
I would not recommend the Radeon 9250. My card is a Radeon 9600 Pro, and it can just about handle the game at fairly low graphics settings (the installer told me quite bluntly that my system setup was best suited for low quality graphics). I posted a screenshot of the effect I get when looking at landscapes - fortunately I quite like the effect.
The Radeon 9600 is, however, listed as supported, whereas the 9250 is not.
Dullahan
QUOTE(Theta Orionis @ Mar 28 2006, 08:04 PM) [snapback]134554[/snapback]

I would not recommend the Radeon 9250. My card is a Radeon 9600 Pro, and it can just about handle the game at fairly low graphics settings (the installer told me quite bluntly that my system setup was best suited for low quality graphics). I posted a screenshot of the effect I get when looking at landscapes - fortunately I quite like the effect.
The Radeon 9600 is, however, listed as supported, whereas the 9250 is not.


Unfortunately, i really can't afford either.
ixnos
QUOTE(Dark0ne @ Mar 28 2006, 12:24 PM) [snapback]134415[/snapback]

QUOTE
I am aware, Robin, that the Geforce FX Series is blarney.. Unfortunately, i am a 21 year old Irish male, paying his own way through graduate school, paying for his own bills, his own home, every expense that a human adult has. Sadly, those take first priority.


I'm aware of monetary problems -- I'm 19 paying my way through Exeter University, both accommodation and tuition fees and everything else inbetween.

Regarding the FX series, I have no idea, all I'll say is that I'd be surprised if it did work.

QUOTE
also the MX series isn't all bad..ok not good compared to today's cards but I'll have you know that 3-4 years ago MX was on top the Nvidia card list...and my 64MB 440MX card plays Morrowind on all high settings and many other games too...except of course the most recent games


The MX series was designed for graphic designers and the like and then deceptively marketted by nVidia to the gaming world, and lots of people took the bait. The MX series was for business, the Ti series was for gaming and, obviously, a lot of people bought the MX series since all they looked at was the memory capacity ("OH LOOK! A 128MB GFX card! It must be good!") and price, and not the actual performance of the cards.

Honestly. The MX series was bad!


meh at the time I went to my local PC store round the corner from me and said what is the best PC I can get for £300?

at the time he gave me the K7 Asus Motherboard, 64MB Geforce 440 MX, AMD Athlon XP 2000+, 80GB HDD and a few other tid bits...in the last few years I have shoved an AMD 64bit 3000+, K8X-V motherboard, corsair 512MB RAM and a 160GB SATA HDD

so I had a base package of £300 with £200 worth of upgrades...now I will be buying a £650 base package with the recent components in

but all in all the MX series hasn't done me any harm, plays games like AOE, Ghost Recon, CIV III and so on but not the latest games and that's the problem

personally I'm a Geforce man but that is all I have ever had and are the cheapest for me, such as I can grab a 512MB Geforce 6600 series PCI-e card for £75...don't know if the offer is still on and will be checking pretty soon but usually ATI's range are around £200
MW2366
Well... I have a Radeon 8500 series from ATI has enough power to take on Oblivion, yet all the colors are missing and has a "rainbow" effect on all buildings... everything except the tree's leaves are not colored in, which I find to be very strange blink.gif ... I think i'm going to have to upgrade my video card or graphics card to get all the color in sad.gif ... the game runs extremely smooth yet there's no color in my Oblivion world, as well as my TESCS in the Render Window... oh yeah and whenever I change the settings to lower the video graphics (when they're all lowered) I hit "Return" and BOOM! CTD and an error report to go with it dry.gif ... I have no idea how to change the video settings without CTD'ing... All I can think of is interpreting the Configuration Settings for Oblivion. angry.gif
Switch
Bizarre. You can try editing some of the video options from the launcher before entering the game (under "Options"). It only offers limited settings, though. There's also the ini file in My Documents\My Games\Oblivion I suppose, and I've heard about a mod recently that allows people with lower end graphics hardware to play the game properly. But I'm afraid I can't remember where the thread is. ^^; Just poke around the forums and hopefully you'll find it.

EDIT: Wait, here it is. http://forum.gamingsource.net/index.php?sh...=0&#entry135786, second post from last, the ES4 Shader Mod.
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