http://www.savetheinternet.com/ Basically, In America, The People Who Provide the internet want to make it to where sites like this, Take 1 Year To load While Advertising Sites Are There Before You Type It In... WHY? So They Can Line There Pockets With Even MORE Cash They Don't Need... https://secure.freepress.net/site/Donation2?df_id=2340&2340.donation=form1&JServSessionIdr003=xit5p4sg32.app46b And No, You Don't Have To Make A Donation, I Didn't...

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Haven't noticed that problem too much in Canada.

Just Wait... It'll Get There... If It Wins Here Anyway. Kinda Sucks, Doesn't It? If They Can Get Away With It Here, They'll Get Away With It Anywhere...

It's here though...
http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2009/07...c-hearings.html
http://www.straightgoods.ca/2009/ViewBrief...amp;Cookies=yes

Honestly, Time Warner Cable will try and fight this, watch. Those jerks...they have a damn monopoly on this area of Wisconsin....they are the only company you can get internet without a contract...and it's reasonably cheap. But, I have NEVER had a good experience with them. Of the years I've dealt with them....they installed the incorrect drivers a computer and completely screwed it up (had to reformat...), incorrectly installed a wireless card, lied flat out to my grandma, and countless times I've gotten the nastiest tech support person ever. I can so see them trying to get rid of net neutrality. Their internet already drags down to dial up on peak hours....and they are considering charging like a cell phone. Use up your bandwidth, get charged 10 cents a MB after that......BS! I guess they realize how much bandwidth online games take up....grr...I hate Time Warner lol...

I'm happy paying $20 more for my DSL...my company actually treats you like a person and they completely support net neutrality

This is a discussion as old as the service industry itself in 2 ways:
a) There are 2 levels of service available. One is reasonably priced but is of unreasonable of quality. This represents not net neutral companies. The other is reasonable in terms of quality but unreasonably priced. This represents net neutral companies. Problem is, nobody likes to choose between reasonable price and reasonable quality. Several things can happen. The service of the reasonably priced can get continually worse until the price of the service with reasonable quality becomes reasonable by comparison. The service with reasonable quality can get cheaper because of some improvement. The reasonably priced service can improve its quality. Since 2/3 of those possibilities favor the one that is reasonable in terms of quality, Time Warner's Future isn't looking so sunny.
b) If you follow the first of Sharkull's links, you'll read the phrase "times of congestion". This is a problem waterworks and hydroelectric companies have been dealing with since day 1. Sometimes events will cause peak usage that are unusual in its hours and its magnitude. An example is a big sports event being broadcast live: almost everyone will be running a television at the same time, and almost everyone will be using the bathroom between periods, wreaking havoc on both the electrical grid and the city plumbing. And I'm sure we all remember the North American blackout we had a few summers ago. Solutions to this sort of problem with any degree of complexity greater than 'MOAR CAPACITY!!!!!!' are really, really clever. That DPI they mentioned in the article seemed a good candidate.

I Hope You Mean They Support The Net Neutrality Act And Not The Freedom Of Internet Act...

I called them not too long ago to make some changes to my phone with them and asked them on their stance about this whole situation. They are their own company, but I believe they sub contract with AT&T and local internet installers to just do the installations (most of the time they just give you the router and say go at it, but they ask you first if you know how to install one.)

The rep told me that they support a free and open internet with no restrictions. That's all they told me lol.

TWC fails so hard....just recently they changed all their channels around and expect people to pay now for The Science Channel...ok you don't take away my friggan Science Channel....I don't have cable personally, the interent is my TV, but I watch shows on Sunday at my mother-in-law's house and when I saw no Science Channel for the $65 a month she's paying for PREMIUM digital cable, well that just ruined my day...and just made me hate them even more lol. If they are that much of a bunch of jerks to take away an educational channel and make you pay $8 more a month, then they would be the first to start restricting internet access...

I can understand limitations in times of heavy congestion, but maybe they shouldn't have such a stranglehold on NE Wisconsin like they do. They have too many customers now and can't keep up...their cable itself likes to "digital lag" and freeze up your cable box on Sundays I've noticed (when everybody is watching football), but they do offer the cheapest plan with no 2 year contract, and a lot of people want that. But maybe AT&T should drop their 2 year contract with the $150 early termination fee and they'd get a heck of a lot more people I think.

Sounds like the solution to Wisconsin's problem is MOAR BANDWIDTH.

ROFL It's Not A Problem Of Open Internet, It's A Problem Of Having Them Put A Price Tag On How Long We Stay On, And Of What Site Is Willing To Pay The Most To Have Their Site Load Faster While Other More Neutral Sites Take Months To Load. It's Like They Would Turn The Internet Into Minutes Like They Did The Phone.... Only To Have It Backfire Badly...

Heh, I Quoted Myself, lol.

Double posting AND using capital first letters in every word of every sentence. It's as if you cannot comprehend the depths of your own annoyingness....

hahah yeah....I believe it's mostly to do with old lines. 20 something year old lines still up trying to send large amounts of information, I'm sure they have perfected or developed higher end coaxial lines in 20 years. They must have...HD and 10MB internet is nuts to send over wires. I'm sure they have plenty of people complaining. FFS, even their so called "crystal clear" digital phone is garbage...very staticy. But that's probably also due to ancient phone lines and they don't want to change them lol.


Yeah, it would be like cable...you can have youtube, facebook, myspace, and whatever for this a month and you have to sit through 3 minutes of ads every 10 minutes before you can continue lol...

This won't go anywhere. There's just too much stuff to filter, the cost of the software to regulate the speeds amongst millions of customers would be outrageous, and the ISPs would probably lose every single one of their customers if they even attempted this. Restrict my bandwidth because I'm playing a game, but the dork next door gets more cos he's on his myspace because they payed the ISP a ton of money? Nah...it's not logical.

I can see maybe, a nice cleanup of all the garbage websites that are around...you know someone bought, I don't know, Cats.com or something and they just made it a spam site or just left it empty. Those need to go. Obviously people just buy the name just so they can have it and sell it to someone for triple the price. If your not going to do anything with the domain name other than spam up and virus up the internet, you shouldn't be entitled to that domain name...I heard we're running out of names and it's because of jerks like that.

About The Capitals, I Don't Care. Comes From Years Of Program Writing, And As For Double Posting, Accident. I Would Delete It If I Could. Jeeze, Any Way Back To The Subject, Never Underestimate The Power Of Greed... Also, This Whole Save The Internet Thing, It's About Charging Us For Time And Speed. Not What's On The Internet. They Could Care Less About What's On It... P.S. Remember These Are Old People Who Are In Charge And Want To Make Their Wallets Fatter. And I Mean OLD. They Have Been Living Without The Internet For QUITE A While. They Don't Know How We're Staying Ahead Of Them And It's Exactly What They're Trying To Profit Of Off. lol

Great, except you fail to understand what is really happening. It isn't that someone bought the address and turned it into a spam site, it's that someone bought the address simply so that they could demand money from someone else who wanted to use that domain. The spam site exists at that domain just for the purpose of paying for the costs of keeping that domain registered. Often, there are people (botnets really) who just jump onto any domain they can find which just recently stopped paying so that they can ransom back the domain to the old owner. Other times, it is just the ISP who sets up a spam site. Sometimes, people just preemptively register domain names every time they hear of a movie or TV series being made just so they can cash in, either on the studio buying the domain from them, or confused traffic sent their way.

There isn't any shortage of domains, there's just an abundance of greedy people. The solution isn't in deciding what sites get priority for data, or blocking off those sites. The solution is in creating laws which make spam sites like those illegal to operate. By throttling data from non-approved sites, or blocking off sites, all that really happens is that the internet stops being a medium where free exchange of thoughts, views, and ideas is allowed. In many ways, the system they are suggesting is similar to that already in place in China and Iran. All it does is strip people of their freedoms. The only difference is theirs is entirely political while ours is largely driven by greed and payoffs.

That's exactly what I said, just not as detailed as yourself...thanks alot for telling me I fail to understand when I said Obviously people just buy the name just so they can have it and sell it to someone for triple the price Some folks just do it to spam up the internet with some lame website so the website will give them money as well.

I'd guess most people would understand my post without having to go into such detail. Sorry if I sound harsh, but I find this very insulting...I say what I say and you tell me I fail to understand and repeat exactly what I said just with more detail. I can understand maybe some folks not getting what I'm saying, but don't tell me I don't understand...

So insulted just because someone misread one line in your response? I admit my mistake, but you seem to take things far too personally.


If someone doesn't see that one sentence, the entire meaning of that paragraph changes. The supporting statements of "and they just made it a spam site" "anything with the domain name other than spam" suggest that spam is their one and only intention in that case. As you mentioned, it's "Obvious" that this is what is happening... Why get so upset because someone is agreeing with you? Clearly, I am in agreement that it is "Obvious", so much so that I spent a fair amount of time explaining it in detail when I was in the belief that someone was not aware, or was not seeing how things are. I'll be asking Santa for a new pair of glasses, you be sure to ask Santa for some thicker skin.

You have your right to clarify it for people, as I said "Maybe some folks might not understand where I'm getting at" because I base my assumptions on the internet has been around for awhile and people know this kind of stuff.

I just found it insulting because it just seemed like you didn't even bother to read the post and analyze it before going on and posting. It made me feel like "Wow, why do I even bother?" I normally just ignore this stuff, but that's gotten me nowhere and just makes me feel cruddy. Most people don't understand that...but you'd have to know my past to understand why I take things more personally than others...oh well.

Hehehehehe... Pacific suckers...