As those of you with Sky or cable of some kind will know (or if your'e in the US, in which case you've alread seen the whole of the two new seri - post any spoilers and I'll hunt you down) the new seri of Stargate SG-1 and Atlantis have just started. And is it just me, or have they totally wiped out the opposition?

First off, cast. In SG1 we now have the main man Ben Bowder from Farscape (now finished I think, I watched some TV movie that was fairly definite ); the ever-so-pretty Claudia Black from the same series, although I think she's only doing a couple of shows rather than being a regular; and the hot woman from Andromeda who was the computer. Taking the best of the rest - oh yes!

And then there's the budgets. Paramount or whoevers in charge of turning out shows must be racking (sp?) it in from DVD sales and the like, and it shows in the effects and overall high-budgetness on display in the opening episodes. The space battles in the overlapping Atlantis episodes were nothing short of movie quality, rivalling the opening in Star Wars III in everything but length (although the end space shootout in Serenity was better than anything I've seen) and the other snazzy effects must be fairly expensive. They've even got as a regular (i think ) an animatronic alien which must be a bit pricey.

So, the purpose of this post? Apart from showing that I am, in fact, an enormous geek, is that I'm wondering if Paramount are trying to kill the competition. There's been nothing new released that I've head of, apart, obviously, from Firefly (DAMN YOU FOX DAMN YOU TO HELL!!!). It seems to me that Stargate has the sci-fi audience pretty much to itself. Good thing? You decide.

Jesus what a geek I am...... *goes and cries into his lifesize cutout of Captain Picard (not really!)*

Lets not forget Battlestar Galactica, which I enjoy immensely. I can't believe they've left season 2 where they have...why gooood, why!?

*Smacks wrist* Whoops, forgot Battlestar (this is now the point at which everyone comes up with new programmes, proving me to be, in the venacular, a bit of a prat).

I guess I forgot it because I never got into it - it clashed with something or other that the other people in my house found vitally important that they had to watch. Saw the first couple of episodes though and it looked pretty good, although I dunno how the storyline panned out. They doing any more series? (What is the pural and singular? Seri and series?? )

Maybe im a bit behind of the Heck,but anybody ever saw the old Godzillas.
Best Science-Fiction ever,if youre on Dope.

Oh my GOD.....



I'm not alone....

At last.

I love Stargate and Battlestar(In real life I say frack every two words )....
However since I am an american. I will not go into details. But I will say God help us all. Cause we gonna need it. And after words open up a can of woop ass...

There's also The 4400, and Lost to consider in the sci-fi line of things. They're both on Sky at the moment and are pretty damn good. ^^

But yeah, SG-1 and Atlantis definitely blow the others out of the water IMO.

Just too bad they brought Star Trek: Enterprise, and consequently the whole Star Trek series for the time being, to such a lame finish.

I attempted to watch Battlestar Galactica but it seemed incredibly corny, no offense. I may just have caught it at a bad moment I guess.

I enjoy Lost, I hardly watch any television, but I got kind of hooked to that show...the first season was good anyway. Unfortunately those kinds of "waiting to be rescued" shows grow a bit tiresome after a while...but we will see.

I don't bother with the new Battlestar Galactica. I liked the original series much too much.

Except when they found earth...then it started to stink a bit.

Lost is sci-fi?? I've completely ignored it on the basis that my sister likes it therefore it must be bad - this is a system of logic practiced by millions of people, trust me.

I wasn't around for the original Battlestar although I have seen a fair bit on cable channels and such. The ones when they're at Earth really DO stink.

I've missed out on The 4400 because it didn't look like my sort of thing, I'm more of a "blow stuff up, score with some alien" kind of sci-fi guy. Must be why the Original Series is the best of the lot in my view .



Who bought Star Trek, the guys who do Stargate?? Hmm, guess its not just huge budgets and stealing stars thats making SG-1 and Atlantis top of the charts then I didn't see all of the second or first series of Enterprise but the stuff with the alien Nazis (what the hell?) looked a bit rubbish in the adverts. Too bad - the films have been getting progressively worse as well *waves bye to the once-great Star Trek franchise*

Yep. It is sci-fi, sort of. It's very good IMO.


Umm no-one bought em. I was just saying they brought (different word) the series to a lame finish.

Enterprise was, IMO, actually getting vaguely good towards the end, ironically; whereas the earlier seasons failed to really grip me. The films aren't bad, but I don't think they're very popular so I doubt they'll do any more.

I realise the series is probably finished in the U.S. But did you guys ever like the Andromeda series thing. I always found it very complex as they explained everything they did and how it worked but I still enjoyed it none-the-less.

Not particularly. No offense but it always came across as somewhat corny to me. The acting was kinda overdone IMO. And the story never particularly appealed to me.

Watched it about two times then lost interest...
I was a little corny.

In my humble opinion, Star Trek was and is the best sci-fi franchise out there. Gene Roddenberry's vision is still the most complex, most intelligent and most thought-through sci-fi universe existing. Star Trek (at least until the end of DS9) was social-critical and thoughtful. And when they killed Star Trek with Enterprise, a world collapsed for me. Where have the times of Next Generation or Deep Space Nine gone? I must admit, though, that Enterprise was getting better at the end. A shame they had to put it off just when it started to become decent.

I never liked the other sci-fi series much. To be frank, most of them have just tried to copy the success of Gene Roddenberry's Star Trek (even Roddenberry himself tried to top his original creation, without success). Babylon 5 is not bad, X-files was always interesting (although some don't like how it ended). But apart from that, niet, niet, niet.

I wouldn't mind a totally new approach on things. What about a Fantasy-Series, for example? There are some really interesting Fantasy-universes out there. Take for example the Planescape-universe (my personal favorite). The Forgotten Realms or Terry Pratchett's Discworld would be great too. Or what about Tamriel?

And I always said they should make a series of the Silmarillion...

Up until about three years ago, I would have 100% agreed with you Darnoc. Star Trek had, from The Original Series onwards (the best one IMO) the best cast and storylines, and was, as you say, socio-critical, something that we don't see enough of in today's media.

But Stargate has superceded it for it. It now has (I'm talking about up to series 8 and 9, I'm holding my judgement on the current series until it gets going properly) the best cast and best acting of any show I've watched, excellent scripts and well thoughtout links to mythology and the backstory. Its a shame that there's nothing out there that really challenges it now (I never got on with Andromeda either, that bloke who was in Hercules is a terrible actor).

I like the idea of a mainstream fantasy show - Terry Pratchett's Discworld would be brilliant. His books contain all the humour AND social commentary that I think would be really effective now. As for making the Silmarillion as a TV show, nice idea