I was just wondering which system people think they're going to get in the end.

Personally I think I'll do as I did in the last next-gen war and go for the Playstation 3. It just seems to be the one in the past to end up with most of the RPGs, except for the ones Microsoft manages to nab exclusive rights to (yeah, all 2 or 3 of them). Playstation has always had the Final Fantasy series, the Breath of Fire series, all sorts of decent JRPGs that can last for excesses of 50 hours plus and maintain a good level of quality (IMO).

XBox seems to be the one to end up with lots of actioney titles with pretty lights and explosioney things, but not exactly games with a lot of depth. It just tends to rely on the fact it has online facilities to attract customers. If I want online gaming I'll play on my PC. Not saying that some of the games aren't fun, because they are... they just don't seem to last very long. And the really big titles that do have potential to them usually end up on the Playstation as well anyway. Or, if they're XBox only, tend to end up coming out for the PC. Not to mention Microsoft seem to think they have the right to charge excessive amounts of money for their system. I wonder if they're going to do that this time as well?

As for Revolution, well... it's a nice small design and all as before, but Nintendo just don't tend to get many games that appeal to me. I bought a Gamecube but I'm kind of regretting it. Damn Harvest Moon seduced me into it.

Obviously I'll do more research closer to the release dates, but in the end I think the Playstation 3 will be the one for me.

Don't buy consoles, but if I did I'd get the XBox 360 -- providing it can still be chipped. Got a friend with a chipped XBox and it's well worth it, but only when it's chipped. I think I'll wait and see. Needless to say I won't be buying any consoles, I'll just be using the ones my friend's get

I'll never go to the dark side. (aka playstation). There trying to take over the world and have a secret acord with EA to blow up microsoft into little bits. Die sony the annoying people who sell piece of crap systems that break after three months.

And nintenedo is going down the drain so i'd go to Xbox 360.

Plus who would want boomerang shaped controller's like the ones set for PS3

Where's all this Sony is teh evil!!1 stuff coming from anyway? I never thought Microsoft had any business stuffing their thumb into the console gaming pie anyway. Let's face it, the XBox is in the end a glorified gaming computer created so they can make even more money.

I've had my PS2 for about 3-4 years and it's never given me the remotest bit of grief. I've heard of XBoxes crashing and having to be replaced however, and they even had to release special power cables to everyone whose XBox was manufactured before a certain date as the ones that were already used could be a fire hazard! ^^;

And the PS3 is a glorified gaming computer created so they can make even more money, the Revolution is a glorified gaming computer created so they can make even more money, just like every console since the beginning. If you think these companies have any motivation beyond "make money", you're crazy. Microsoft is no better or worse than the other console manufacturers.

Why does Microsoft have no business making a console?




Anyway, where's the "none of the above, all are a waste of money" option? The processors are massively over-rated, with sub-PC performance, so all you're left with is the pretty graphics (which will be available for PC games soon enough). And of course all of these are high-resolution still screenshots. For those of us who can't spend $5,000 on a tv, the resolution limits are still going to be a huge disadvantage. You aren't going to see that kind of quality in the real world.

I'd rather buy a few good PC games than pay a ton of money for shallow gameplay and pretty pictures.

Ok maybe I worded that poorly (although you can make anything look negative ) the XBox is more like a glorified gaming computer than the others. It's built more like a computer, with the inherent faults therein. Such as random disk rejection...

And they had no business because they've already made so much money by monopolising the computing industry. IMO going into consoles was unnecessary and perhaps a tad greedy.

The reason for getting a console would be because the games can't be played on PC. Yes it's giving in to the companies trying to make money off it, but hey, if you find it enjoyable...

There are emulators I know, but they're of questionable quality and difficult to get games working on. Let's not discuss anything more on that here though.

The gameplay is anything but shallow on good console titles. Depends which ones you've played, I suppose.

The biggest advantage of consoles that I can see is their portability. Try stuffing a fully fledged PC into your holiday luggage.... yet a PS1 or PS2 can be accommodated without difficulty, and still keep the kids entertained.

Marvellous.


I can't say that I have any great interest in consoles - I'd rather upgrade my PC - but it's very likely that at some point or another we will acquire another one. Which one will depend mainly on the titles available, and on backwards compatibility with older games.

To tell you the truth I'll probably end up getting both the Xbox 360 and the PS3, I have a PS2 and Xbox. I've also never had any trouble with my Xbox, which I got about a month after it came out. My PS2s fine ,too.

I have a xbox and I choose xbox 360 becuse its a very impressing system

XBox 360... Microsoft has secured several JRPG designers that are already planning quite a few games for the system. Revolution? Maybe. I've absolutely loved every Nintendo console, but until I know more about it, I'll pass. And PS3? One word: boomerang.

I don't plan on getting a console right away. I'm more than happy with computer gaming for the time being. However, I did buy a PS2 and there's some decent games for it. That, and my PS2 is still going strong after 3 years (it's in excellent condition except for a little scratching on the bottoms of my controllers, and a piece of one of my shoulder buttons broke off (but it still works fine, it was a little piece on the inside that i had to take it apart and take out).

I'll stick with my PS2 for console gaming for the time being - I'll grab SC3 and FFXII for it when they're out (the former because SC is the BESTEST FIGHTING GAME EVAR, the latter because I'm a Squaresoft whore...excuse my french...and I seem to buy all there games even though I haven't liked any after VII)

Anyway, when I do get a next generation system, it'll most likely be a PS3, because when I go to hell I want to have already been sucking up to the devil.

Personally, I plan on getting the Revolution. I'm just a die-hard Nintendo fan. I know it makes me seem a bit close minded, but I have other reasons. See, most of my friends will be getting a PS3 or Xbox 360. So what'd be the point of buying one of those when I can just play their's? If I got another system it'd probably be PS3 because of Soul Calibur 3 and Metal Gear Solid 4.

Ah, but the PS3 is the most powerful system of the three. Xbox360 sports a power of 1Tflop, while the PS3 has... get this... 2.4Tflops.

I'll definately get the PS3.

I would have to say that I would buy all 3 if I had the money, just to give them all a fair shot and then weed out the posers/fakes/obsulete. If I didnt have the money to buy all 3(the day they came out that is) I would definately buy the PS3 first. The MGS series has me hooked. I cant get enough of it. But Xbox does have Halo, which is most likely going to be very promissing in the future(if they make another one, Halo2 was kinda bland and didnt offer what the first did, Revolutionary Gameplay). Revolution is kindof a Questionmark in my mind. I wanna trust Nintendo, but after the Gamecube went downhill I dont really know if I can trust em.

And, no matter which way you slice it, Microsoft had no right sticking their greedy noses into to "Console War". Besides, Xbox will be dying out here soon anyways, all the stuff that they have has already been copied and regurgetated by themselves about 200 times.

I would love to see a comeback by Nintendo and become a Contender in the "Console War" again. They kinda dropped out of the rankings when Xbox came along. Playstation had alot to do with this also. But they still have very good game titles, unfortunately the only one that really comes to mind(that I enjoy playing that is) is Metroid. I only saw a short trailer for The Revolution, but were they suggesting/hinting/stating that it would be a Virtual Reality System? Couldnt really tell from what I saw.

I think that Playstation will be around for a very long time. They seem to take a few more risks now that Xbox has so rudely jumped into the "Arms Race". I think that Playstation is the one system that will actually last for a long time, the same way that Nintendo has. The Games that Playstation still has first dibs on are the best, like the GTA series. And, Killzone2 for PS3 looks extremely promissing. Still waiting to see the Trailer for MGS4.

God, I've babbled on for to long. I've said what I registered to say, and now I'm gone. BTW, which system is Perfect Dark:Zero coming out on? I loved the original, just hope it's gonna be coming out for The Revolution and not Xbox(just saying Xbox makes me cringe).

And I bought my PS2 the day that they hit the shelves, and I havent one problem with it. Dropped it about 500 times and still runs the same now as it did when I took it out of the box.

Xbox 360 easily. First of all it comes out the earliest of all the next gen systems, and since I have little patience the earlier release date is a big plus in my book. Also, Oblivion is going to be a release title, and I have heard that Square Enix has signed onto the bandwagon. Not to mention it doesnt have boomerangs for controllers .

Revolution. It's cheaper and I'm a die-hard Nintendoid. But the early post that said "Nintendo are going down the drain" WHAAAATTT!!!! HOW WRONG CAN YOU GET!!! People say that Nintendo are rubbish but without them we would still be playing with joysticks and arcade style machines. Nintendo made the D pad, The analouge stick, Shoulder buttons, Z triggers, The start button and Zelda and Metroid rock! We would still be in the dark ages if it wernt for them. AND... Do you realise how MASSIVE they are in Japan. Absolutely HUGE!!! I hate it when people say they are rubbish and you can't say they have no experience. Theve been here since before a lot of us were a twinkle in the sky. Game and watch came out 1973-1975 so the really ARE kinda old. Nintendo rocks. It's official. And it should be for many years to come...



I was born with a snes controller in my hand. So it kinda annoys me when people dis what I was born from.

Oh yeah. And PC's are best because there are such things as ROMS so you can play ANYTHING without having to pay much.
There, I said it, Im crazy Now leave me to be by myself...


Im gonna play Mario... 'Til I'm N64

(Edit) Oops. Necromancy. Didn't notice. Darn. I'm sorry (edit)

Congratulations fanboy, way to miss the point completely. Sure, Nintendo did some great stuff in the past, but their recent efforts have been underwhelming. And the sales numbers don't lie, they're a distant third place to the Sony/Microsoft leaders. If anything, it just makes their story even more tragic, as they've gone from unrivalled leader to throwing it all away and descending into mediocrity.

Playstation 3, Xbox 360, Nintendo Revolution; in that order.

If I were to buy all three consoles, which I doubt I will, I would by them in the above order. I am not much of a console person, preferring PC's, but I do play consoles somewhat.

First off, the Playstation 3 is going to be the best console out of the three. Why? Because it is coming out the latest, and will therefor have the best hardware. There have been many sites that show that the Playstation 3 will have more power than the Xbox 360. Next, the games. Playstation 3 will have the better looking, and playing, games, all because of the hardware. Now, the Xbox 360 will have great games too, but people will be lead to the better graphics of the PS3.

Now for the 360. Microsoft shouldn't have came out with it so early. There have been problems with the 360, and it has been all over the news and websites. This is going to lead people away from the 360, and instead to the PS3. They should have fixed all of their stuff, and tested it more, before they put it out. On the bright side, Microsoft seems to be fixing the problems, and the Xbox 360 looks to have some great games coming out this year, although the games for it on the release of the 360 weren't that great.

Finally, the Revolution. Nintendo had better see the light, and soon. Their games are directed towards kids, and most gamers these days do not want that. It almost seems like they are coming out of this trend however, after the release of Resident Evil on the gamecube, and a few more non-kiddish games. Now, to talk about the ability to play all of the games ever for Nintendo. I have heard nothing but, "Yea, that is going to be awesome!". Come on people, it might be fun for an hour or two, until your eyes start hurting and you get tired of killing blobs of what are supposed to be (insert cool enemy here). You are going to want your new graphics back, and you probably won't play the old games that much.

So, this is my opinion on things.

Revolution for sure. If I ever get an HDTV (which I doubt will ever happen), I will get the PS3.

PS3.
Mainly because Xbox didn't have too many games that I want (and many of those that they did were released for computer too (KOTOR-Computer KOTOR2-Computer Morrowind-Computer Halo-Eventually Computer). They have some fun games, but not enough to get me to buy a 360. The Revolution... well, it is really too early to tell about the system, but the controller sounds really... akward... and the gamecube had two or three games only released on their system that I considered great (SSBM Animal Crossing are two). Plus, it sounds like it will also be the economical system (read: cheap). That's great if you don't have money to burn, but if you have enough money to spend on consoles you might as well get the best.
The PS3... the main reason is because of the PS2. It had a HUGE library of games, including some very good RPG's. Plus, it also has the library of the PS1, including some of the BEST rpg's. If the PS3 turns out to be the true successor to the PS2, it will be a truely awesome console. Let's just hope they do everything right again.

xbox all the way!

i like xbox and every thing but i here that the ps3 is going to be a pretty good compedetor if it ever comes out

just watched the sony new conference at the pre-E3 show and Im sorry, call me a fanboy if you like, but PS3 is going to wipe the floor. The XBOX 360 has been out for a while and to me has shown nothing in comparison to what the PS3 has shown.

Grpahics are far more superior, character animation looks sweet and there are some new and original titles which will get our juices flowing. One of the games which caught my eye was 8days, this was actual gameplay and it looks awesome, a great car chase which looked pre-rendered, some great particle effects, you have to check it out.

Kaz said that PS£ has not been built on gimmicks, making a cheeky stab at its competitors, it showed what its online community can do, though they only showed a small part, its possibilies are massive. The example showin was how the online enviroment can seemlessly integrate into singstar. Allowing useres to but new HD tracks and to be saved directly onto the HDD. The way the browser operated reminded me of iTunes and a new version of media center, pretty cool.

The biggest surprise was left till last and that was the controller, Ken Kutaragi came on stage saying that there was one more surprise and that was the controller. He took the controller saying that this is the new PS3 controller (it looks just the same as the PS2 controller) there was kind of a mixed reaction, kind of a we knew you would never of kept the bommerang version. Then they showed what it can do that makes it so different. It does what nintendo has using as its main selling point, the controller movement is translated to the screen, they said it has "6degress movement" (pitch, yaw, roll). A demo of warhawk was showing with the new controller and it rocked! I like that this has been kept secret as this will seriouly pee off Nintendo whose hype i'd say has been built around their, i'll call it, Kinetic controller.

The pricing structure was announced, there will be a two tier structure, 20GB HDD and 60GB HDD versions, both priced at €399 and €499 respectivly.

there was so much more and i would seriously have a look at uk.gamespot. I dont know about you guys but i cant wait!

HS

PS3 has a kinetic controller? Seriously? Not sure I like the sound of that so much... a controller you have to swing around? Sounds like an excellent way to get RSI. Keeping the original controller design isn't much of a surprise, it's tried and tested. Better than that boomerang one anyway. Another blow against Nintendo. They're starting to look seriously outmatched...

Its not like the Nintendo where the ads show some indiot jumping around like a fool, and i cant see all games adopting it, but for somethig like warhawk where you are able to glide your plane with subtle movements, are i could see used in socom to lean round corners, its subtle and its cool.

The unveiling of the PS3 at E3 did nothing more than show off how much farther behind Sony is in game innovation than BOTH Nintendo and Microsoft. First of all, their visual technology doesn't even support HDTV, they opted for the overwhelmingly more expensive and undeveloped Blue-Ray technology. I'm sorry Sony, there's not a chance I'm forking over 600 bucks for a technology that isn't already a staple on for TV's when I could have BOTH the Wii and 360 for the same pricetag.

I'm fed up with the kids game argument against the Wii; Nintendo impresses me the most in terms of actaul console DEVELOPMENT and proved their willingness to retail mature titles with Resident Evil 4. Coming out with a new controller that simplifies gameplay with the potential to make ANY game for the system extremely interactive and intuitive is worth jumping around for; what you do IRL is relfected in the gaming world. Western shooters anyone? Think of what swprdplay in Oblivion would be like? or spellcasting? or making potions? Sony is stuck on the success of the PS2; backwards compatability doesn't mean anything when it's a 600 dollar pricetag to play all my old games and fork 60 bucks over for a new one that plays like something completely familiar.

Microsoft lost BILLIONS over the first Xbox; the console cost more to produce than it was selling for in stores. Now that Microsoft has solved the problem, in addition to the incredibly intuitive Xbox Live component, and you have an amazing package. Also consider that with Xbox Live Arcade, the success of less demanding arcade games gives smaller Independent developers a shot at producing content to be solicited to a large audience.

Sony plans on charging 20,000 bucks for a licence to develop on their platform, while Nintendo solicits its licence for only 2,000 on the Wii. As a smaller developer, which system are you likely to develop for on a budget? This is a suprising and welcome move by Nintendo; I wouldn't be suprised if they monopolized a small Indie Gaming market by having dirt cheap development licences. Companies could produce content at great rates and introduce products into a highly competitive market.

If I plans to buy next gen consoles I'd do it in the following order:

1) Nintento Wii
2) Xbox 360
3) PS3 (of course, for the same price, I could get both the Wii and 360)



Why then did the PS3 flop all over itself at E3 while the Wii enjoyed throngs of people waiting for hours in line just to get a glimpse?

Wii @ E3

Again Being Extremely Successful

According to what some people are saying the Wii wasn't even at E3. It was just a bunch of GameCubes, there are pictures. That could just be a load of rubbish, of course, but I could almost believe it with those somewhat last-gen graphics. I don't know, I just wasn't too impressed.

In what way was the PS3 flopping all over itself? It was impressive/surprising just how popular the Wii booth was though. Maybe it won't completely kill Nintendo after all?

Where do u get this from?



Comon man, you have got to admit that nintendo does have this cute fuzzy kiddy thing going on, with its endless number of bright coloured mario games. yes some of these games are cool and yes ninty has some mature titles but it still cant shake that image



Yeah a new controller its cool its new and i like what you can do with it, my problem is that on the morning after the night before, i dont really want to be jumping around my cold half eaten kebab trying to chop someone up with my imaginary sword. Its ok to use your thumbs to play games



backwards compatability isnt what its all about if anything IMHO its system developers giivng more depth to there systems. YOu still have to pay for games on the Wii, yes the system costs less, but this whole virtual console is just spin on an old idea. COrrect me if im wrong but didnt the japanesse version of the dreamcast boast such a feature, nothing new really.



guess that just depends on your audience and what you want to achieve, i really dont think a desgner, an artist, is going to think wait minute instead of making that epic roleplaying game, lest just make a new mario game but this time hes in an underwater land, we'll call it Mario: Watersports, thats not really an issue.

This whole thing about who won E3 is like who cares it means nothing, who is going to win the world cup is something that matters. i would've queued for the wii, its new, it means nothing

sorry for post just sick of hearing bout wii wii

Which was actually a pretty good business strategy. When Microsoft released the Xbox, they were in the position of zero market share, but an unbelievably vast amount of money to spend on the project. By selling at a loss, they cut the prices and got people to buy the Xbox and build loyalty to their brand. Even if they didn't make it all back on game license fees, Microsoft could easily absorb the loss as an investment in the future.

Now fast forward a few years to the post-Halo modern world. Now Microsoft has a decent market share and can start looking to take advantage of it with the Xbox 360. I'd say the plan worked.



The huge problem with Sony and the PS3 is the absurd cost of the system. By pricing it so high, they're throwing away the casual gamer market. The casual gamers will buy a Wii, or just one of the previous-generation consoles. Meanwhile the serious gamers will pay just a little more for computer upgrades to match the performance. And it only gets worse once you realize you can't get those stunning graphics without a $2000 HDTV, and you just got a nice style over substance console.

And just to finish the disaster for Sony, they've been completely owned by Microsoft on the release date. The Xbox 360 is out and making money and market share, while the PS3 is only an empty promise so far. I have a really hard time believing that possible prettier graphics will be enough to make up for being released so much later.


As for the Wii issue... my anti-console bias is pretty well known, I just don't like them very much. So I'm a bit skeptical of the concept. I think the lack of precision is really going to hurt the console... I personally wouldn't want to use one outside of a few specially-designed games maybe. I guess only the success once it's out will tell if the controller is a true innovation, or just a marketing gimmick that fades away after a month or two.

On the other hand, it looks like it has nice potential for the casual market or as a second system. The low price is definitely an appealing factor, especially if it comes with the promised access to classic games.

I think SOny need to get the message across that the console is more than and a console, they need to be able to translate to the masses it will allow for the system to be like a media centre PC in the living room and that by using the blu-ray there are going to have a modern future proof HD player in there living room. Yes i know not everyone has a HD TV but I know i didint have a SCART plug on my TV to use my PS2 DVD player and ont think that is the issue. If sony can get that message across and justify the cost, IMHO is a bargain, then were on to a winner. The iPod is an example of how well this can work, the iPod is a piece of rubbish that gives no freedom of use, has crp headphones and does nothing but play MP3s and ipods cost upto £200, why dont people just buy something cheaper?

I know SOny has cocked up with E3 and it wasnt because of Wii, there press conference was boring though it was a more revealing than the others in letting us know what were in for. Microsoft will be stronger but i dont think they will be the market leader.

i will buy the xbox 360 when Halo 3 is out and Crysis crash my PC

want a revouloution but getting 360 soon.

Xbox 360 hands down for me, but I've always been loyal to Nintendo, so I will also get a Nintendo Wii (pron. "WEE"; "Revolution" was just a codename).


I'm not sure what you're getting at, but I think you've outdone yourself on this one. I don't think you realize that Nintendo has ALWAYS aimed their systems at the pious gamer, one who STRICTLY plays games on their console, and not to use it to watch DVDs or listen to CDs (like me). What makes you think Nintendo is going to change a strategy that's helped them since day one, hmm? Let me point out something to you. Nintendo's new system SHOULDN'T be compared to the Xbox 360 nor the PS3, since those two systems are aimed at multimedia consumers (those individuals that like their HDTVs and home theatre systems), whereas Nintendo has always been a favourite among those that are serious hardcore gamers.

I'm gonna be blunt, but I think anyone who's been fool enough to buy into Sony's cheap trick of a console is overhyped themselves . All there is a load of bullsh*t, empty promises, and absolutely NO innovation. This is the SECOND time TODAY that I've had to rant on about how disgusted Sony makes me feel.

Hmm, these anti-Sony rant posts are borderline flaming, Rob. Everyone's entitled to their opinion on this subject, try not to get too heated about it. Thanks.

PCs can do anything consoles can do, except play a few games that are only released for consoles. And even that is merely a matter of time.

As for the idea that keeping a PC up to date is more expensive than buying each console (even if only one company's) as it comes out, as long as you aren't getting the absolute latest hardware, I should think updating a PC would be cheaper.

And there are any number of things PCs can do that consoles CAN'T do, in particular, media creation and modifications.

EDIT: Forgot to mention that console games often don't have any debugging option. Cheat codes don't count.

Well you'll be happy to know that the Wii will be getting dvd playback functionality, this is not ALWAYS true.

As for the anti-sony rant, im not going to repeat myself has i have already had my say in another PS3 thread. You can hate the company but they do make nice products.

Just watched some video on the ps3 XMB and its pretty nice what i can do with your photos. check out IGN.com if you want to see.

I appreciate that you're trying to dissuade me from hating SCE, but as I've ever so clearly stated before, I simply will not be lured in by something that others may find useful. I am a serious gamer at heart, so having a system that can do a million-and-one things really doesn't matter to me, and as a matter of fact, I would prefer NOT to have a system that can do a million-and-one things. It's just personal preference, that's all.

And while I do find that the Wii will have at least some multimedia features as the other systems, it really doesn't matter to me. My PC is good enough for me to do the same things these systems can do. I also find upgrading a PC to be cheaper than having to buy an entirely new home console. I'd stick to PC gaming above any console, any day.

Personaly I like PC. But if I would have only these tree choises I would choose XBox 360.