Crusader93
Apr 4 2005, 06:17 AM
help me i made a plugin that made me to 100 hand to hand skill and he wont fall! help
CLB1110
Apr 4 2005, 07:26 AM
Ya with that guy I dont think you can knock him out. You HAVE to kill him to progress in the Raven Rock quests.
Switch
Apr 4 2005, 08:31 AM
Nope. Killing him will hurt your rep with the guy at Raven Rock (forget his name) and I think you end up working for the NPC back at the fort if you do it.
I'm pretty sure he can be knocked out... how long did you try for?
Theta Orionis
Apr 4 2005, 08:40 AM
It's a while since I did that particular quest, but doesn't he give up and plead for mercy if you pummel him long enough?
Dark0ne
Apr 4 2005, 08:51 AM
I had to go back to my stronghold to increase my hand-to-hand skill just for this guy.
Just keep hitting him and he'll falter after a while. It's possible you may need to talk to him after a while, can't remember if it automatically happens or you talk to him after hitting him for a minute or two.
Malchik
Apr 4 2005, 09:13 AM
You can't kill him, he disappears in a flash of teleportation. Falco gets very cross, Carnius thinks it is a great joke. AFAIK Switch, you can still side with Falco even if you kill him. You have to be careful. If you attack him with anything other than your fists you cannot then go back to using your fists and succeed so you have to kill him!
Crusader93
Apr 7 2005, 06:02 AM
eh...ok i got hand to hand 100 and i aint knock him down!
Peregrine
Apr 7 2005, 08:25 AM
QUOTE(Malchik @ Apr 4 2005, 05:13 AM)
You can't kill him, he disappears in a flash of teleportation. Falco gets very cross, Carnius thinks it is a great joke. AFAIK Switch, you can still side with Falco even if you kill him. You have to be careful. If you attack him with anything other than your fists you cannot then go back to using your fists and succeed so you have to kill him!
Correct, you can do exactly that. I got sick of trying to hit him with 15 hand to hand, so I Black Hands-ed him and sided with Falco later. There's no consequence to killing him besides a bit of "you shouldn't have done that" dialogue.
Malchik
Apr 7 2005, 08:49 AM
QUOTE(Crusader93 @ Apr 7 2005, 06:02 AM)
eh...ok i got hand to hand 100 and i aint knock him down!

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Is your endurance very low? You won't often hit if it is. But you don't have to knock him down. Two or three hits and he'll tell you he won't move and a couple later he says 'Ow!' and moves off. But note my earlier comment if you accidentally attacked him before you remembered only to use your fists you cannot go back, you have to 'kill' him.
Peregrine
Apr 7 2005, 09:12 AM
Nah, I was missing completely, not even getting the hit sound (after reading a warning about killing him, so I'd used fists only). So I just got sick of it and killed him the easy way. The Hellbird guildmaster of the Morag Tong does not waste time when a single dagger stab is more efficient.
NinjaSalad
Apr 8 2005, 06:00 PM
huh? I was able to knock his ass out, he didn't fall down but a dialog box opened and he just aks you to stop and then he walks away. I actually followed him but he just goes a fair bit noth then stops. Has any one gotten that kick ass Ice Armor?
Raven7669
Apr 10 2005, 04:38 AM
Possible spoiler ahead
You have to have it made for you.
You get sent on a quest by either Falco or the other guy, can't remember his name, and meet the people who make it by the frozen lake. They have you find strhlim and give you the tools to collect it. For every 1-2 pieces they will make a piece of armor or a weapons for you.
Malchik
Apr 11 2005, 12:27 PM
If you choose to support Carnius he provides the armour in exchange for stalhrim.
NinjaSalad
Apr 11 2005, 03:17 PM
Huh? I picked to help (Falco?) an in the end I still got the chance to get that armor.
Malchik
Apr 11 2005, 03:47 PM
Sorry if I ws misleading. If you support Falco the people with Graring will make the armour for you - one piece of stalhrim and 24 hours for each piece. If you support Carnius he supplies the armour - 2 pieces of stalhrim but no wait.
andrus
Aug 3 2005, 11:30 PM
this is a secret i dont like to cheat but i know what to type.
in the console put. player->sethandtohand 100
with this you can delete your mod kick his ass and then put your hand to hand back to what it should be.
I dont like cheating and i wouldnt like to think that you are cheating before even completing the game though that will ruin it for you but now you have the knowledge do with it what you will.
and that guy you have to beat the monkeys out of him, i killed the s.o.b and still dvanced in the game so i advise you do the same and pay for your crime
Malchik
Aug 4 2005, 07:58 AM
Hi andrus,
This is a general point not specifically directed at this thread. Some of the posters of the original threads you are replying to must have moved on (one was dated March this year) so I'd check the date of first post before adding info, although you are largely right in what you say.
In this case however your answer is misleading. You can't kill the Nord in the blocked door quest, he teleports away. This is because if you choose to support Carnius he is used again in another quest and at the time of the blocked door quest you haven't made the decision on who to support.
If you haven't played supporting Carnius I suggest you do it has a rather different feel to the quests and some are quite different.
andrus
Aug 5 2005, 10:14 AM
your right about that malchik he does teleport away i forgot its been that long since i played it many apologies to any who thought you could kill sorry
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