Cause i personally don't want to wait for Halo 3. Another couple of years of agony. I can't stand it.

KP DLU 4 Life

Made me angry. The game just... stopped. Dont get me wrong here because Halo2 was awesome but the ending... you just stopped playing... it was over. I mean, I think :spoiler: what made Halos ending great was that You were TRYING to blow something up. As opposed to Halo2's ending, in which you STOP something from blowing up everything...

The reason the ending was so... "suck-ass" is because the devs needed to get the game out on November 9th.

Now, the rumour is (straight from the pages of my fresh Official Xbox Magazine) is that Halo 2.5 will be a launch title for Xbox Next/2/whatever. It will contain improved features(graphics, multiplayer etc...) but the important thing is... it will include the "cut" ending.

But, it's on the "rumour mole" page, so take it for what it's worth.

BTW- there was a Halo 1.5... for PC

The ending was a let down. Not much more to say...

Since I will not be playing this game as its an XBOX only release (as far as I can tell) I wouldn't mind if someone could post up a link to a site which contains the full storyline to Halo 2.

I played and completed the original Halo on the PC and would be interested to see how the game turns out in this 2nd game...and after the abismal results of the PC conversion, Halo 2 for PC isn't going to happen.

The ending was terrible. There was no ending really. It was like reaching the boss of the second level in other games and then finding that the game is over without any explanation or without ever dealing with the bad guys.

It wasnt that bad but it could have improved, I wish the game was a little longer though and for some reason master chief just pops up at the cairo when the real storyline is that he meets up with other spartans

if you want to know about halo and before the game what had happened buy all three of the books and read the fall of reach first the flood secod and first strike last

Microsoft Games made the ending such a cliffhanger to get even more sales on Halo 3 (or Halo 2.5 if the rumor is true). I do not agree with the decision, in fact i think that it is the cruelest thing that they could do to the most hardcore halo fans who know they have to wait 3 more years to get any kind of closure........but it IS a good marketing strategy.

Whoa whoa whoa gilbert. I read the fall of reach and I think they said that all of the Spartans were killed except for the Master Cheif. The only book I havent read is the 3rd one, first strike, so I am curious as if i missed something in it. did I?

The third one say's there are two more who help chief... well i won't spoil it.

The ending sucked because.... THE GAME SUCKED.
And the first Halo sucked too.

Now thats just wrong and cruel to say that at the greatest fps i've ever seen. And i dought you even own an xbow. My guess is that your a playstation 2 lover nad just to let ya know killzone sucked also. Know if you are a gamecube lover you just don't knoiw anything about fps's. Now if you don't mind i think this topic is settled.

If you watcha fter the credits, it shwod Cortana talking to that big creature.

yes the Fall of reacch (and the flood) said that the spartans looked like they had all died but if you read first strike it tells how they survived







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when the covenant glass reach but leave on part un glassed, they send troops into the underground ONI fortress and are looking for something fortunatly the spartans of blue team i think where in there along with dr. Halsey I wont say any more

To VG Kidng: Why dont you jstu keep your mouth shut? Flaming and insulting a game is jsut making you look like a freaking guar, and thats jsut plain ugly. HALO is a great game, we dont mind you speak your mind, but KEEP IT CLEAN...its rpetty bgad if a noob like me ahs mroe respect than you.


And on topic: I havent read the books, but the ending...godly..

yeah, dont say that, keep those types of opinions to your self.

anyway, I hope that Eric nylund writes another halo book because he does them so well, keeping it in the halo touch

i wonder if the books started first or the game did....

Book->Game. I havent read the books, parents wont buy them for me either.

But it yourself. you must have a job or allowance or somethin like that?

It?
There are three of them and they seem to no way connect to the game at all.

Also, it is estimated that around 60% of the game was cut from the final release of Halo 2, including most of the ending cut scene which is why people are speculating on a Halo 2.5 release, which is highly unlikely.

I believe it was first reported on IGN or some reputable magazine. I forgot.

Anyway, the ending is joke and when I heard we were going back to the Library I felt like crying with despair.

The whole just got repetitive and the deeper I got into the game the more annoyed I became that there was no New Mombasa (which has been found on the Halo 2 disc by modders), no new vehicles or any of that.

It's just poor in my opinion.

When Halo 3 comes out there was so little story in Halo 2 that if you go from Halo 1 to Halo 3 you probably won't notice you've missed anything much.

What can I say?

Oh, Halo 2 for PC has been speculated for a December this year release.

Now now,Halo 2 had a great storyline. Much better than other FPS's *coughkillzonecough* . If you wanted deep imersing storyline,go play an RPG.
And I suppoaw you can back that up with proof?

I didn't think it was a good ending at all. I was expecting things to continue on for twice as long as they did! Took me totally off guard, all of a sudden BOOM the credits. Sort of... "Huh? Is that it?". Totally blatant attempt to achieve 3 things IMO.

1: Get it out before Christmas for extra $$$.
2: Allow there to be a Halo 3 even though they could have fit all of the remaining material into Halo 2. More $$$ for Microsoft!
3: Allow them to release Halo 3 as one of the big titles, maybe even the premier title for XBox Next/2/Xenon-whatever. :P Even more $$$.

Very good game, but let's face it, as people have said... the ending sucked.

I've become sort of a Halo2's-ending apologist over on unfiction.com. I recognize the disappointments with the ending, but I don't think that it comes from the game just stopping.

This game ended up being about one thing: the dissolution of the Brute contingent within the Covenant. The political machinations within the Covenant was much more ... I don't know the word ... they inspired a much more urgent feeling within me. It was like, "I need to stop these guys RIGHT NOW."
With Master Chief, I just didn't get that feeling. In fact, it was much more like, "ZOMBIES!" And don't get me wrong, I love me a good zombie. However, it became a bit frustrating after a while, because Master Chief's storyline didn't have nearly the kind of emotional impact.
In hindsight, I would have released two games simultaneously, one game that focused on Master Chief's storyline and one that focused on the Arbiter's storyline. The Arbiter's storyline obviously ends with Tartarus, but Master Chief's storyline ends with stopping the very imminent Second Invasion of Earth.
I have my own speculation on why the Bungie squad stopped where they did. They probably want to give us a good, old Western epic of a game with Halo 2.5/3 or whatever, and I suspect that involves the Flood. Remember when the Flood were driving around those Covenant vehicles? If Gravemind's children could learn to operate Covenant technology, then they could surmise the location of Earth as well. We could have all three factions (Humans, Covenant and the Flood) having a battle royale on Earth. In my opinion, if we got that, it would be worth the wait.

(Slightly Off-Topic) That would be tottally awesome. You know what else would be to? If you could play as a combat form in Halo 3.

Ahem,I think they cut it short beacuse of time contraints,or could have been for more $$$...Who knows?

I think you're probably right: time and money. See, I go back and forth in this. I really want to believe that MS and Bungie are in this for the right reasons, that they released the game in this unfinished state due to this huge marketing campaign. I mean, for months and months, Halo 2 was being touted as having a release date of Nov. 9. That's what everybody was looking forward to, so Bungie had to pump out the sequel in its unfinished state so they wouldn't completely disappoint fans.
I think they made the wrong decision, but the made a judgement call. I respect that.

Is that Hellsing in your signature?

Halo 1.05 you meant, not Halo 1.5. The patch was a mess, and if you mean Halo CE, so was that and it's not "Halo 1.5". They released 1.06 just to tidy the mess up they made which split an already decreasing community of different versions into even smaller sections than before.

Yet again here's a detailed look at the game (not the same as review posted earlier!). This time it's not my opinion as I don't hold the game in such a high regard.

Halo 2 review

Halo 2. Ha-lo-2. No other console game has ever been as anticipated or received as much hype as this. The big daddy has finally arrived, and it’s going to kick your ass.

For this review, I have decided to split it into two parts – single player and multiplayer, as they are essentially different games. I’ll get to this later.

Single player

I’m going to try and keep this as spoiler free as possible, for those who haven’t played the game yet.

The game seems to start off on a bad point for those of you who had played the first Halo as you start off nowhere near where the old game left off. I suppose this is for the new gamers who have never played the first game – so you can just pick it up and play straight away. For the more regular Halo players, it appears to presume that you have read the series of Halo novels (which I suggest you do anyway, they are a great read and give you great insight into the story) to allow you to link the two games together. Even then it doesn’t do a very good job of connecting them.

Enough griping for now, this part of the first few minutes is a very minor factor. You start the game on an orbital station just out of Earth’s atmosphere. The first process is very much the same as the original Halo, you are required to run through a series of diagnostic tests to get a feel for the controls and to set them up for your preferences. Immediately I was overwhelmed by the amount of detail. It was simply breathtaking. The Chief has a sexy new look, and the detail on fellow characters is incredible. After the diagnostics, you get a chance to have a little wander around the room. Looking out the windows allows you to see the amazing background detail. Other orbital stations, Earth, other marines going about their business, all looks great. After you finish gawping you move onto the next part of the level, with a familiar character (to those of you who played Halo 1). This part strangely reminded me of the beginning of Half-Life, but that’s just me. You get to meet a few new characters after this, but now is when the action starts. You almost immediately get thrown into battle (after around 5 minutes of initiation and cut scenes. The Covenant make their presence known, and start attacking the various orbital stations. The first objective is relatively simple; defend the station.

Throughout the level you get a great feel of gameplay. Straight away you get the chance to experiment with the new ‘dual wielding’ aspect of that game – you are presented with a selection of weapons and there are various combinations you can choose. I loved this, you immediately get to play around with the fun stuff. Now you get to use these weapons! An epic battle ensues where you have to force boarding parties backward and stop them from taking over the station. This is basically the main body of this level, killing stuff. This is great however, it gives you time to relax and adjust, without the nuance of difficult tasks to complete.

As the game progresses though, I couldn’t help but feel the level of fun drop off slightly. If you have seen the E3 2004 footage of New Mombassa, you will most definitely be disappointed – hardly any of this level remains and what is left has been almost completely changed anyway. Throughout the new version of Mombassa, I never once got a feeling of war – but the E3 footage looked completely the opposite. When you finish this level, that’s it – no more Earth. Why this is I have no idea. After all the advertising for the game leading up to its release, such as ‘Earth will never be the same’ I got the feeling that the game would be largely based on earth. This was disappointingly not the case.

Throughout the game, you really do tend to get a feeling of massiveness. Levels seem to be huge. Not necessarily in physical size, but in playing length too. They certainly spanned some quite large distance. The graphics never once seemed to sputter though when big areas were rendered. It still looked fantastic. Graphically, Halo 2 is in a league of it’s own. There are areas that really make great use of the new lighting, everything seems to have a much more realistic feel to it than the old game. The only graphical flaw would be during cutscenes. When a lot was going on, the framerate dropped slightly. Luckily, this didn’t appear to creep into the actual game though. The main problem though was the textures – at the start of a cinematic there would be texture ‘pop in’, where it took a second or two for the game to load up all the textures and put them onto the models. While slightly detracting, I didn’t see this as a major problem. It has also been stated that this is due to the none existent loading times for the cinematics. I feel this is a fair trade off.

Now, we get on to one of my favourite aspects of the game, the sound. The music was absolutely perfect and it really fit into the feel of certain levels. It also helped to set the correct atmosphere for the levels. Sound effects were superb too, guns sounded great and you really get the feeling of bullets and debris flying past you. I only wish I could appreciate it fully by using a 5.1 speaker sound system.

The game play was spot on, the controls were tight and playing with thumb sticks was very easy with this game. You always felt like you were in control of your character which I never really feel often in an FPS on a console. Now, time for another gripe. Pretty much at the end of every level, you were faced with a boss battle. Yes. A boss battle. In a Halo game. Why Bungie decided to do this is beyond me, and it really seemed to disrupt the flow that was ever present in the first game. It seemed to turn it into more of an arcade shooter than a tight FPS at times. This, I was extremely sad about.

The story left a little to be desired in my view. If you have read the books, you will be disappointed with the lack of tie-ins. Many story twists were made to keep you interested, but it never really seems to get anywhere. The biggest problem with the story was the ending. I won’t go into too much detail – but even if I did there wouldn’t be much of an ending to explain. It was almost none existent, and seemed to end the game half way through, almost where you would have expected Halo 2 to begin. It’s very hard to explain, but once you play the game you will understand. The entire game doesn’t seem too long, I managed to complete it in around 6 hours.

Now, I am not saying you should not buy Halo 2. It is a masterpiece of a game and I strongly recommend that you purchase it. The few small problems just make the game a little less enjoyable at times.

Graphics: *****
Sound: *****
Gameplay: ****
Story: ***

Overall ****

Multiplayer

Prepare yourself for a completely different game. It seems to me that Bungie put most of their effort and resources into the multiplayer aspect of the game. I can safely say, without a doubt that after around 3 weeks of owning that game, that it is the best multiplayer game on a console. Ever. There is not one thing about it that I could fault.

The netcode is superb. You never have to lead a target to land the shots; it is just like playing the game on a LAN. I have only experienced slight warping of players, but nothing major. The way the game utilises Xbox Live is like no other game – and it is great. You never have to look for a game, you just hit the A button a few times and you are straight into a game. Brilliant. There is also a party system that you play with your friends, where they follow you into whatever game you go into. The clan support works much in the same way, your clan goes as one group into a game and plays together. It is by far the most organised and simplest ways of playing an online game.

The action in game is fast, furious and full of fun. It was everything I could have hoped it to be and more. You will always be guaranteed a close game where ever kills count. The team speak function is a very good idea – to talk to your team, you simply press the white button and your voice is cast over your team’s radio frequency. If you talk without pressing the button, your voice is broadcast to all players around you within a small radius, brilliant for trash talking your opponents when you are in a close combat battle. The boarding of vehicles means you can never relax when you are driving either! Team play is now a major factor. You really do need to work as a team to get the best results. This really makes the game more realistic, rather than going round as a lone gunner all the time.

The level design is excellent. Everything is brilliantly placed and well set out. The weapons are excellently balanced and everyone will have a chance, much unlike the situation in Halo 1. This means games are much more fun for all. Dual wielding plays a major part in multiplayer, those who master the right combinations will be the ones who excel.

Overall, the multiplayer experience was a better one that the single player. I will definitely be playing this multiplayer for years to come and so will many others. This game will dominate Xbox Live and it sets an incredibly high bar for other developers to catch up to. Maybe this will force developers to put effort into their multiplayer, rather than pumping out glitched, untested games like Black Arrow.

Enjoy people, this is the pick of Xbox Live.

Overall: ******


Reviewed by Andy F for TouringNet.co.uk.
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6 out of 5 for Halo 2 Xbox Live...he doesn't think so anymore. :P

[FONT=Times][SIZE=1]The ending was pretty good. Im more sad that they have manhandled the plasma rifle,plasma pistol amd made the SMG to weak

MrPyroMania; yes I can back that up with proof. Bungie said it.

And I say this:Cite your source.

One of the interviews on the Halo 2 LE DVD.

i personaly think halo 1s is better.

Yes but... that doesn't add anything in order to revive the discussion, does it? This thread has been dead for over a year now. Please learn to follow the rules or as I said before you won't be allowed to come here anymore.

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