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|-|ammer
Is Sotha Sil anywhere in the game? If it is, where?
HeLLL
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If you have tribunal and you go through the missions you will end up going to the clockwork city where sotha sil lives. get to the end and you will find sotha sil is dead :blink: . So yea he is in the game but not in a "living" sense.
|-|ammer
Ok Thanks man
HeLLL
Not a problem buddy biggrin.gif
Scuttlehead
But what about the daedric ruin Ald Sotha?
Pack Rat
Just another ruin with some more daedra freaks in it for you waiting to be cleaned out...
Lynx_X
he is by far the coolest looking skeleton in the game
Luminus
Hell yeah, i took a screeny of him.
The Eclipse
<_< helll i dont like u no more tongue.gif :lol: tongue.gif
The Eclipse
btw scuttle nice char ... :o
Ta'Thalos
You have heard of the 'edit' button, right???
jimbob 11
Ald Sotha was the original base for the minor house Sotha, and after Mehrunes Dagon and his army destroyed it and his followers, he went off his trolley and built that friggin' clockwork city.
wesaynothin
Really? Where did you hear that? Never knew good old Soth had his own house...

And why isn't there a Neravine house?
Adrian Laguna
Of course there is a Nervarine house. Just check any page listing housing mods, there should be two or three (or four, or five). rolleyes.gif
HeLLL
Um is it me or is this getting a little off-topic??? Try keep it on topic please otherwise it will be locked.
FrozenGod86
hell yeah he is the coolest dead guy i have seen in the game, all tied up. too bad he didn't have any good items on him.
Ta'Thalos
I assume you mean "didn't".. Or did I miss some totally cool unique amulet or weapon or something?! biggrin.gif
FrozenGod86
Sorry "Ta'Thalos" no he didn't but ne should have
Rynos
I think Earrindo is making a Sotha Sil alive mod or something... correct me if im wrong.
thanateros
How would that fit into the storyline of Tribunal...at all? sure it would be cool but you would seriously have to manipulate the main storyline a lot, something that bethseda discourages a lot.

So the big question is, will it be 1) believable 2) fit into the storyline and 3) help clarify any holes in the Tribunal quest.

I can certainly think of some really fun ways to incorporate this sorta thing, but did this modder?

And if you have one could you send me a link to the site (if there is one)?
Stormscape
Remember though, the Tribunial can't truly die unless Lorkhan's heart is destroyed. So technically, they should have had an alternative Tribunial stroy line where you go to the clockwork city and do jobs for Sotha Sil and eventually destroy Almalexia cause she went mad.
Burnination7
That would require editing large parts of the game, like the scripts, making the quests, etc. So it can't be done. And one theory I have is that not everything was created using TESCS...:blink:
Stormscape
well, obviously the textures...
cmac
QUOTE(Burnination7 @ Nov 24 2003, 08:04 PM)
That would require editing large parts of the game, like the scripts, making the quests, etc. So it can't be done. And one theory I have is that not everything was created using TESCS...:blink:

State your theory.
TSBasilisk
I've mostly hung out over at the Official Forums, and the Sotha Sil Alive concept was strong for a while over there. Here was the plan which seemed most logical of those proposed:

Sotha Sil travelled forward in time as Almalexia approached, for but a few moments then. He arrived in the High Chapel after Almalexia was slain, and began to settle his final business. When he is complete, he will travel back to meet his fate, which he is prepared for.

Also, if anybody kills him during these quest, a script will activate to instantly kill the PC. No violating the timeline allowed. :angry2:

There are also a Sotha Sil model on Euro-Morrowind awaiting animation, a Sotha Sil NPC(admirably done), and a suit of Sotha Sil-inspired armor I put together.
Blackmage
Well, I could think of something that COULD fit in a little bit... (making this up as I go along)

Sotha Sil is a man-god correct? Just like Almawhatever and Vivec. He is also a master robotics person...

Now, what if all of his fabricants had this program installed on them (bad choice of words, I know) that would "revive" him, so to say, if he ever died. In other words... he would become...

The Sotha-Sil-anator!

*dramatic music*


Right... back to schoolwork :stupid:
Pikeman85
The day a mod comes out for the Sotha Sil-anator

I'm going to quit Morrowind right there and then, cold turkey.
cmac
There is no House Sotha. Sotha Sil was a loyal follower of Nerevar. There is, furthermore, no House Nerevarine. There are five Dunmer Houses, and that's it-- Dres, Hlaalu, Telvanni, Redoran, and Indoril. PLEASE don't make up stuff that isn't true- this is not the story forum.
Stormscape
So did Sotha Silhave a Napoelon complx, what with the city of 'Ald Sotha' and all...
cmac
Ald Sotha is Daedric ruin, not "Napoleon." And Ald Sotha is in no way related to the god Sotha Sil. It is merely a name coincidence.
Stormscape
Napleon complex usally means that the person believes that they have to have something named after themselves or they aren't good enough.
TheDeadTree
Being that you were (and this is a major spoiler, so stop reading if you haven't completed the main quest) Lord Indoril Nerevar, you'd think you'd have the option of rejoining House Indoril. Or even wearing the armor without Ordinators jumping down your throat.
Stormscape
Ordinators not jumping at you and getting turn to dust by you would be possible through a quick rescript of the Ordinator attack script. Like
CODE
if ( GetJournalIndex C3_DestroyDagoth => 50 )
    return
endif

would be added at the beginnig. I think that's the name of the journal for destroying Dagoth not sure though.

The House Indoril thing though...
well... Indoril is only prominent on mainland Morrowind, and in fact only Hlaalu Redoran and Telvanni EVER were on Vvardenfell.
Curt Sibling
QUOTE(Stormscape @ Nov 24 2003, 07:00 PM)
Remember though, the Tribunial can't truly die unless Lorkhan's heart is destroyed. So technically, they should have had an alternative Tribunial stroy line where you go to the clockwork city and do jobs for Sotha Sil and eventually destroy Almalexia cause she went mad.

Ah, milord, you forget that while the Dwemer craftlord's tools being in the hands of house Dagoth has resulted in the corrupt tribunal losing their divine invicibility!
cmac
[quote=Curt Sibling,Dec 18 2003, 05:11 PM] [/QUOTE]
Ah, milord, you forget that while the Dwemer craftlord's tools being in the hands of house Dagoth has resulted in the corrupt tribunal losing their divine invicibility! [/quote]
No-- The Tribunal's godly powers faded when the PC destroyed the Heart of Lorkhan. The Tribunal used to make annual trips to the Heart to restore their power, but this by no means denotes any fading of power. Dagoth ur did take the tools from Nerevar, and was corrupted by them. This is the only time House Dagoth was in posession of the tools, until Dagoth-Ur attacked the Tribunal on a restorative trip to Red Mountain, and reclaimed the tools.
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