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evilgreebo
Since MEMod has died its unfortunate death I was wondering will the meshes and textures be released? It seems a shame to let everything go to waste and a lot of modders would use them.
pharzon
It's a valid question, but could you at least let MEMod die before trying to achieve their work?
Luxar
i agree with evilgreebo. With all their hard work, the mod team should be allowed to release their models and ideas in an unrelated-to-middle-earth fashion(i'm sure it could be done somehow.

i mean...we cant possibly miss out on the pixel-shaded grass!


Its a wonder though, that the tolkien estate didn't come forward sooner before the modders had put so much time and effort into it. That, I think, is the worst part of the whole situation.
Lethmoraa
Once again, the Tolkien Estate has nothing to do with it
Kahenraz
Depending on how things wrap up, I may release some shots of my models, but nobody is touching my max files. wink.gif

I've made a teaser of one of the models I made for the memod and hid it somewhere within my website. See if any of you can find it!

Interesting tid-bit:
Note that the tree tutorial was inspired by the memod biggrin.gif
Manwë
Will it say if the model is MEMod or not? Or is it just one of the ones in your portfolio or gallery, with normal names like "horse" "broadsword" etc.?

I want to find this model!!! biggrin.gif

EDIT: What about the 2004 "My Gallery" it just says "please stand by" when I click it...? sad.gif
suzerain
Could we at least wait for the MeMod to stop breathing before the vultures descend to pick the carcass of every last scrap, please?

S
Tor_Anders
QUOTE (suzerain @ Sep 19 2004, 03:59 PM)
Could we at least wait for the MeMod to stop breathing before the vultures descend to pick the carcass of every last scrap, please?

Do you really believe that MEMod has a chance?

*Grabs onto the last piece of rope Suzerain throws at him*

This has been a very turbulent time for my emotions, I still can't believe I'll never play MEMod. When I read your post I went
ohmy.gif Is there still hope? happy.gif ah... er... sad.gif Probably not mad.gif Durned legal sh*t...

You're making my world a rollercoaster just by vaguely hinting at it's continued survival. wink.gif Of course I don't expect you do just leave it for dead no matter what happened, and I suppose I never will myself. Anyway I say we all chip in and pay the fine that you'll get for making the mod together! wacko.gif I'm serious!
DMKW
QUOTE (evilgreebo @ Sep 18 2004, 11:38 PM)
Since MEMod has died its unfortunate death I was wondering will the meshes and textures be released? It seems a shame to let everything go to waste and a lot of modders would use them.

i don't like the idea of the models going to waste but i don't like the idea of them just getting released either....i dunno.
Radagast: Master of Hues
I PM messaged suzerain about releasing things before this thread and this was his answer:

We'll be releasing a lot of stuff over the next while
that'll probably include text, renders, screenies, and model-packs, along with details of timeline, story, etc.
how much we release will be dependant on wether we can salavage any for future projects. however, we're not even thinking about that just now.
Give it time.

As he said we should wait off on asking for things like models. I hope this sheds slight on this issue.


rip_1.gif Memod!
White Wolf
QUOTE (Radagast: Master of Hues (quoting suzerain))
how much we release will be dependant on wether we can salavage any for future projects.

I sincerely hope the MEModsters manage to come up with some sort of project they could move on to. They are obviously very talented, so it would a crying shame for even just their talent to go to waste, if nothing else.
DMKW
instead of just releasing the models...why not make a mod out of them? just not an MEMod ..but the architecture, etc..could be used for a mod. theres a beta set in morrowind all done in interior cells ...why not take that city and expand it?
Cailwyn
Ok, I'm a little bit wary of what reaction this will get, but I'll rich rousing a linch-squad and give what I hope is a possibility.

Now consider this question; did you see and/or like the TV movie Merlin with Sam Niell as the tile character? If your answer is "no" than skip the next couple paragraphs.

Now for those of you who still reading, I recently watched that movie again when a friend of mine got it and just from the first few minutes I was struck with goose-bumps from imagining a Morrowind mod with that feel to it. It also reminded me of how rich of a story the stale old King Aurthor Tale really is.

The best part is that one doing such a project would be open to a great deal of artistic license because there is no "official" variant of the classic saga. In fact, historians can't decide if Aurthor was this king, that king, a little bit of every king, or no king at all.

But I believe that people of the skill of the late MEmod team could achieve something wondrous if the took one of the many ancient European myths, whether it be Camelot, or the Greek/Roman Myths, or a dark tale of the Druids or Pegs, or a story involving the Norwegian Gods and Heros climaxing with Ragnarok. And much of what you have started could be placed in seamlessly in these environments. You could develop a completely original story and you wouldn't need to fear breeching the law.

I know that the loss of MEmod is fresh, and I know little of the devs interest in these areas, but I would like a few word from one or more of the senior devs on this subject. Also I would like to say that I would help in any way I could with such endeavors and learn what I would need to know. Perhaps this is worth considering?

If this starts more than one or two posts, feel free to split the topic.

peace
Darnoc
Good idea, but then you also could create a Beowulf-mod. I personally was always fascinated by both, the King-Arthur-Saga and Beowulf. And there is the Edda of course, the Norse Saga-Cycle.

And my offer is still on, you may use my world, which I created for my novel, to create a different mod. Since I haven't published it yet, there are no rights on it.
Maquissar
What if Snorri Sturluson comes back from the Underworld and sues the MG-Mod(MidGardr Mod) Devs for copyright infringement? smile.gif
Ember
Erm, I wouldn't exactly describe that as 'hidden' Kahz! wink.gif

Its a great model. Just wish I could've seen it moving in Middle-earth.

jeehde2
First of all, Im very, very sorry that it all had to end like this... sad.gif



Oh yes...
please,please release the great looking grass, and then someone can mod it into
Morrowind itself!!
Or why dont you just mod it yourself? Why give it all up? Just put the characters and the grass and maybe some small island into Morrowind!!
Then we can at least have something to reward our patience tongue.gif

Its just a shame that it couldnt turn out any better sad.gif
But after this shock... just relax and maybe start thinking about some future things...

But of course... everyone will be posting and posting until something is released...
So, I hope they wont wait to long, cause there will be many more threads about this subject.

rip_1.gif Rest in peace MeMod...
Cailwyn
QUOTE (Darnoc @ Sep 20 2004, 10:10 AM)
Good idea, but then you also could create a Beowulf-mod.

Your right, and I would have mentioned Beowulf, But thats already been done. Don't know what it was like, however, never played it myself. Beowulf seems to narrow of a scope anyways, both for the team and for TES3 or TES4.

peace
Darnoc
QUOTE
Your right, and I would have mentioned Beowulf, But thats already been done.


There's a Beowulf-Mod? Didn't know that... Can you perhaps send me the link?

And what about the Edda? It contains more than enough material to make a great mod out of it. Or the "Niebelungenlied". I'd like to meet Siegfried, Hagen, Alberich and all the other characters from this great saga. Well, dreams smile.gif
Nibelung

Niebelungenlied. This sounds awesome cool.gif
Slaiv
I suggest that you create your own mod and copyright the world and ideas, etc... That would prevent future disappointments such as this.
Durbatuluk
I have the distinct feeling that this is a really stupid question, but I thought I'd ask. . . Would it be possible for the DEV team team to release parts or all of the Middle Earth map? I'm trying to make a private "Dwarf" mod with Ered Luin in it. And I suck at world building. Would they be safe releasing something like that if it isn't publicitised and isn't really a complete mod.

I don't think so, but It can't hurt to ask. (I REALLY suck at world building. . .)
Rynos
No.

If it was released as a whole or in small parts its still illegal.
Gabbe_master
As i said before in another thread:

I really hope you don't give away the materials.
It's your stuffs, and i don't like the Idea of other people using your materials for theyr own good.

Just think about all the shit people can make of it.
I don't want to find a mod on RPG-Planet.com/Morrowind that look like this:

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Middle Earth Nude MOD v1.2!
Visite the local bordellos, as either Frodo, Aragorn, or Legolas, and have some fun! Galadriel prostitute added in this version!
-------------------------------

Please, do not release anything!

sad.gif
Durbatuluk
Hey, I do wink.gif

Oh, well, Rynos, thanks for not slamming me for asking dumb questions. . . I'll just have to do it myself. Ered Luin'll look crappy. smile.gif
Viblo
Yeah i agree with Gabbe_Master,

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don't give away the materials.


IŽll get the creeps to thing of it ef someone will try to make some crappy idies.
Gabbe_master
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IŽll get the creeps to thing of it ef someone will try to make some crappy idies.


Yea...

*Takes my armor and longsword, sits down outside the ME-Mod-Material-Vault, and starting to guard the valuables from all the thiefs lurking around out there in cyberspace* tongue.gif
DMKW
if they aren't going to do anything with the models they might as well release them...that way at least the mod community could get SOMETHING out of this. i'm all for a new mod by the team but just tucking them away somewhere on they're hardrives to never be seen again is just a waste
Nibelung
Delete the models and stuff... so sad and beatiful.
Durbatuluk
I agree with DMKW, releasing some models and weapon, armor packs would be the next best (If about a million rungs below the first) to playing MEMod. . .

Didn't Suz say he might do this, has this changed?
FlightlessBird
*Slaps forehead* Please, please I'm asking you guys as a follower of MEmod to just let it go... Stop asking for models, stop buggin the devs for screens or meshes or textures or whatever. I've heard it so many times and I dont want to hear them say it again on this thread. Is it that difficult to move on? mellow.gif That basically says my opinion on whether the stuff should be released or not.
DMKW
i'm not asking for models..i don't want them...i haven't played morrowind in half a year. i'm just saying if the team isn't going to use them then at least give them to the community to use. its just a suggestion
Rynos
If we decide to release the models in a new mod or just alone, you will find out the day that we do so, or maybe a little before.
Slaiv
I'm going to assume that the correct answer to this is:

Wait and See. tongue.gif

Seriously, though - I don't think that the models should be released just for the heck of it. The scripts, yes. But not the models. Don't ask why.
neithan
I don't really understand why any models "should" be released or anything. Sure there has been a lot of expectation towards this mod, but however obsessed by anything Tolkien-related we "potential users" might be, it's not like we really lost anything with the closing of this mod. Well I at least don't feel robbed of anything.
As for the people who created this mod, I don't think they wasted their time or efforts either. I suppose they learned a lot of things, either technically or even humanly, by working as a group, and it's not because we don't have any "tangible" results that we can see or use or whatever, that all of this was for nothing.
DMKW
QUOTE (Slaiv @ Oct 5 2004, 04:44 PM)
I'm going to assume that the correct answer to this is:

Wait and See. tongue.gif

Seriously, though - I don't think that the models should be released just for the heck of it. The scripts, yes. But not the models. Don't ask why.

i think its because you'd rather see them put to good use in an epic mod and not in some crappy amature one. i agree with you there. has there been any discussion behind the scenes at all about a new project?
suzerain
Y' know, if copyright had'nt been the death of Memod, the words "wait and see" would have been....

*grumble*
Suz

Peregrine

QUOTE
has there been any discussion behind the scenes at all about a new project?


Wait and see.






Ok, to avoid the wrath of devs, there's been discussion. Does that really suprise anyone?
ShinraSoldier1
QUOTE (DMKW @ Oct 4 2004, 06:59 PM)
if they aren't going to do anything with the models they might as well release them...that way at least the mod community could get SOMETHING out of this. i'm all for a new mod by the team but just tucking them away somewhere on they're hardrives to never be seen again is just a waste

..I don't think you understand, DMKW
DMKW
QUOTE (ShinraSoldier1 @ Oct 6 2004, 03:30 AM)
..I don't think you understand, DMKW

ok Shinra what doin't you think i understand now? dry.gif i mean seriously why do you keep saying that to me?

QUOTE
has there been any discussion behind the scenes at all about a new project?

Wait and see. Ok, to avoid the wrath of devs, there's been discussion. Does that really suprise anyone?


i dunno...wasn't sure. thought maybe the team was to depressed to even want to consider doing something else.
surian
I think that the reaction most of us had after hearing about the cancellation of the mod was first, disappointment and then, "So, what project are we going to do now?"
pharzon
That's good to hear smile.gif
I hope that you're gonna share your decision with us when the time comes. Although it might be clever not to create a hype as big as that of MEMod.

pharzon..
Cailwyn
I gotta say surian, reading that, even though its just a conformation of what I already suspected, fills me with a lot of excitement. The team was what made MEmod such a big deal for me, not just Middle-Earth (though loosing the chance to wonder it is a major blow). Hope it goes beyond talk wink.gif

Oh ya, if you want a good chuckle, check this out funny pictures, especially the posts by crazed ss.

peace
Tor_Anders
QUOTE (Cailwyn @ Oct 6 2004, 11:14 AM)
I gotta say surian, reading that, even though its just a conformation of what I already suspected, fills me with a lot of excitement.

Yeah, I'm getting all tingly inside! laugh.gif

But no matter what project you should start, I think you've given yourself a lot to live up to considering the MEMod hype. Can you handle the pressure?

And, hell, we want screenshots... NOW! bleh.gif
DMKW
if this new project was done on the TES:IV engine you could make use of the new TES:CS features..like the landscape generator
Slaiv
Well, they can hype it up as much as they want, as long as it's an original idea. Otherwise, I'd also have to say don't hype it up as much. Still, you could get permission from the company first.....



[hint]Star Wars Universe[/hint] tongue.gif
pharzon
Oh, please no! Don't make a mod from the Star Wars Universe. Not that I think you would but still! Now that the mod can't be a Middle-Earth mod, then at least make it in fantasy world like Middle-Earth.

Well, all the above only counts if you actually decide to make a new mod. If you don't intend to do such a thing, forgive me my rant. smile.gif

pharzon..
ShinraSoldier1
QUOTE (DMKW @ Oct 6 2004, 07:00 AM)
QUOTE (ShinraSoldier1 @ Oct 6 2004, 03:30 AM)
..I don't think you understand, DMKW

ok Shinra what doin't you think i understand now? dry.gif i mean seriously why do you keep saying that to me?

QUOTE
has there been any discussion behind the scenes at all about a new project?

Wait and see. Ok, to avoid the wrath of devs, there's been discussion. Does that really suprise anyone?


i dunno...wasn't sure. thought maybe the team was to depressed to even want to consider doing something else.

I don't think you understand why releasing models would be harmful to the integrity of the project, even if the project doesn't exist anymore.
Gabbe_master
The TEAM has not released any of theyr stuffs yet, so why dose everybody continue discussing this. I admit that I don't want them to release anything... But somtimes you have to learn to...
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WAIT AND SEE
bleh.gif
Tor_Anders
I'd love to see a Star Wars mod... But not from this team! I have given it some thought and come to the conclusion that, considering the many great writers on the team, I would like to see a totally original world, created by the team, themselves! That way I think we would surely see a part of Middle Earth in the mod, anyway. And I also think that creating a new world would give you more room to do what you really want, thus automatically making the mod better.

I must say that I think you devs are being awefully quiet now (so everything is as it should be) and that must mean that you're planning something... I'm anxiously 'waiting' to 'see' what! happy.gif
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