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MexiMage
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I'm at level 34 with strength and axe skill up to 100. I have an unenchanted Daedric Battle axe (because he reflects everything else back at you) I summoned a golden saint, daedroth, dremora, clannfear, bonewalker, skeleton, ancestral ghost and god knows what else and I still can't kill this guy.....the furthest I got him down was half way then he just healed..and I used at least 6 exclusive restore health potions. I want that ebony armor Somebody help me out... if not too much trouble email Mexi22@aol.com with Morrowind as the subject
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cmac
Yes- he's tough. He was meant to be a real challenge. May I suggest:

1) Using Jump potions and a powerful bow or
2) Lots and lots of Sujamma.

There are really quite a lot of ways to beat him (or any tough enemy, for that matter).
Switch
You might also want to try a Damage Luck spell. That's why he's so tough, he has a luck rating of about 500 IIRC.

Apart from that, you can always level up... I managed to beat him at around level 65, and even then he put up one helluva fight.

Also you can lower the difficulty slider to -100. It's a bit low I know but it works wink.gif
eviljim
load up with alot of arrows and go fight him. lure him to the edge of the water and jump in, he won't follow you and he'll just sit there running forward and not falling in the water. also, he's susceptible to poison and paralysis. i beat him at level 12 happy.gif with a high marksman skill.
Vaanic~One
two words: Levitate and marksmanship.
eviljim
QUOTE (Vaan @ Sep 20 2004, 03:06 PM)
two words: Levitate and marksmanship.

can't levitate in mournhold. playing sneaky will get him everytime though
Marcinius
well instead of levitate you could use a good jump spell and hop on a building.
suzerain
Or... throw away all your armour, train up your hand-to-hand... then get in close, knock him down in hand-to hand, and then swap to a sword/axe/pointy stick. stab him while he's down until he gets back up. go back to hand-to-hand, knock him down, draw weapon, continue till he's dead. plus without armour, you're usually faster even at level 10 or so.

simple.
don't bother using magic or normal combat because he's lucky/reflective enough to ignore it.... but when he's down on the deck, every hit will harm him nice and easy.

Suz
(nothing dishonorable about killing someone while they're down, if he does'nt live to tell the tale... smile.gif )
thanateros
QUOTE (suzerain @ Sep 26 2004, 02:58 PM)
Or... throw away all your armour, train up your hand-to-hand... then get in close, knock him down in hand-to hand, and then swap to a sword/axe/pointy stick. stab him while he's down until he gets back up. go back to hand-to-hand, knock him down, draw weapon, continue till he's dead. plus without armour, you're usually faster even at level 10 or so.

simple.
don't bother using magic or normal combat because he's lucky/reflective enough to ignore it.... but when he's down on the deck, every hit will harm him nice and easy.

Suz
(nothing dishonorable about killing someone while they're down, if he does'nt live to tell the tale... smile.gif )

Not to mention with hand to hand you hit so fast it'll be hard for him to be able to take a swing at you, assuming you hit consistently of course.

I know it's a tad OT but does anyone know if the Necro Ammy or Marara's Ring cut down the damage he dishes out?
eviljim
when he comes back with the ebony armor and the big ass sword he will smite the shite out of you if you try going hand2hand with no armor.

Marksman is your best bet, but I would suggest doing the quest in godsreach with the crazy lady in the northwest corner. after that quest you get some poison grip arrows and gaenor is quite succeptible to the paralysis
suzerain
QUOTE (eviljim @ Sep 27 2004, 01:49 PM)
he will smite the shite out of you if you try going hand2hand with no armor.

Will he?

Damn. My PC must have been lying to me when I got my lvl 20sh Nord to beat the living daylights out of him, and kill him while he was down on the floor KO'd.

and I was certain that I'd even dropped all my armour in a nice pile just beside the man-at arms in the courtyard and only had a sword so that I could jump and run after too.

Must've just been the drugs making me think that I was playing Tribunal for ages afterward, when I was clearly smited ages earlier.

Suzerain.
eviljim
QUOTE (suzerain @ Sep 27 2004, 09:30 AM)
QUOTE (eviljim @ Sep 27 2004, 01:49 PM)
he will smite the shite out of you if you try going hand2hand with no armor.

Will he?

Damn. My PC must have been lying to me when I got my lvl 20sh Nord to beat the living daylights out of him, and kill him while he was down on the floor KO'd.

and I was certain that I'd even dropped all my armour in a nice pile just beside the man-at arms in the courtyard and only had a sword so that I could jump and run after too.

Must've just been the drugs making me think that I was playing Tribunal for ages afterward, when I was clearly smited ages earlier.

Suzerain.

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you must've had some serious hand to hand levels.
Maquissar
QUOTE (eviljim @ Sep 27 2004, 10:42 PM)
you must've had some serious hand to hand levels.

Well, he did say "train up your hand-to-hand"... I suspect he didn't mean "up to 15" smile.gif
eviljim
if it were most other people i'd argue but i have no reason to doubt suze....



*whispering to self*
I still think being a sneaky b@st@rd works better wink.gif
viper7
I killed it quite easily whit my resist normal weapons 40% ring (I dont remember where I got it but it was propaply one of the vampires of dagoth ur)
dragon bone cuirass could be nice and chryshamere or beter sword can help too and eidolon shield wich has restore 100 and lots of botions

and then the fighting

ask the one infront of the temple to increase your luck 10 points
(pat 10 gold for the almalexias temple) then use all kind of things to raise your status in every way.
exclusive restore potions help alot because fight can take along time
wich is a good thing because he´s fatigue aint too good wich helps yor hit rating
you may run aroun the are to lower his fatigue or not.

if some of these good artifacts isnt in your inventory tes is good way to find them
(left click the sword for example click info who has it then go to npc find the one
who has it then click hi info where he/she is the try to find whit the doors the location of the house or dungeon its simple realy and helps alot to find artifacts
Mesame
Pretty simple with what i did, although he does reflect he can be killed with a spell, I have a spell called Meteor, Fire Damage 100 % for 561 seconds, yea i know it hurts but with a constant effect healing ring every shot he deflected didn't effect me much, after casting the spell over and over again it finally hit him, I just let the spell do the dirty work and I dispelled on myself to rid myself of the pain my spell was causing me and I watched him die from the roof of the Temple. Fun but extremely painful, I did this with my lvl 76 character, 185 Str (enchanted items of course) IT may seem like alot of work and money, but after its over with you have one hell of a spell and alot of health. (My health bar is like 7K or something like that so even without the ring I could of lived awhile.)
Ancalagon
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I just leveled up to some ridiculous number and went toe-to-toe with him, using several fortify strength constant effect items and after beating Tribunal of course...


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hyperk3
QUOTE (Mesame @ Sep 30 2004, 04:59 AM)
I have a spell called Meteor, Fire Damage 100 % for 561 seconds

ok how did you 1. Get enough skill to cast something that good 2. Get enough money to buy that spell and 3. Have enough magicka to cast it ( unless perhaps you have that x5 magicka robe)
Beyoz
how exactly are you going to cast it? the spell chance should be something like
-100 or something when you do. and how you get 7k health at lvl 76 then?
eviljim
it may have been a typo... *cough* or power posing *cough* happy.gif

i think what it all comes down to, to beat gaenor, is to find whatever your character's strong point is and find a way to use it. if you're a mage you can use a damage luck spell to eat away his luck. if you're a tank you can just go WWE smackdown on his candyass. If you're a thief (like i was) you'd find a way to beat him in an underhanded sneaky sort of way. if you're a jedi you can use the force. if you're the president you can call in an airstrike. if you're a d...... i'll shut up now blush.gif
Crim, The Red Thunder
okay... i did a lot of searching on the 'net

and i came up with results that work. However, you will need a constant restore magicka item (probably from a mod... infact, it has to be from a mod, or you cant get the effect to enchant with... but even just 1 point will work!) or lots of restore magicka potions. Then you need 2 spells.

1. Disintigrate armor
2. Damage luck (or absorb luck!!!!! damage works better since he doesnt get the chance to get his luck back...)

now simply find a place where he cant be the bejeezus out of you, and hit him with your spells (removing your armor first...) until he takes his armor off (since it has 0 value left, and it wont protect him, and it is 'broken'.) Then cast the damage luck spell until you start hitting him consistently. (i use the term loosely...) at that point, just drop off of whatever roof or ledge you are on, and smack the tar out of him with some daedric axe or something. He dies REAL quick then. At that point, it's just like any normal battlemage.

I have tried this, and it REALLY works.

You might also want a disintigrate weapon spell if you are taking too much damage, and you might also want a restore luck spell incase yours gets drained.
and the above steps with the disintigrate armor and luck spells can be reversed if you want, it's just as hard either way, at least to me.

I managed to kill him at that point with a PATHETIC amount of armor (armor rating of about 50... without my spell-boosting...)
Dilvish
My character Freydis Helsdottir (L45 Nord, Shield Maiden) just beat Gaenor decisively. To prepare for the fight, she bought a custom spell (Absorb Luck on touch 35 pts for 20 seconds). She put on her best armor; a mixed set of enchanted Ebony and Her Hands (the enchanted version). She equipped The Mind Spear (Daedric spear enchanted with cast when strikes, Fortify Spear 100 pts for 2 secs.
She cast the spell when Gaenor attacked and quickly chugged a few fortify strength and restore health potions while backing away. She continued to back away (good strategy with spears) and used her spear with a skill won over many battles. Gaenor began taking damage after three or four seconds as his luck began running out. The fight was over in maybe fifteen seconds. Gaenor's body lay steaming on the temple grounds pierced by a dozen wounds. Freydis disposed of the body and carried Gaenor's former posessions home to her trophy room.
Abramul
Steaming? Ouch. I think I killed the wood elf with a summoned bow, after getting onto the Temple roof or one of the outer walls. I know I was able to kill Almalexia with a single spell, although Her Hands got me after. (Deathwish: Damage Health 100 points for 60 seconds on target, cost ~3600 Magicka. I could only cast it after boosting my INT and WIL to ridiculous levels though...Netch Leather, Bloat, and Scrib Jelly). I was able to get a Bull Netch to kill another Wood Elf from the mainland....heh. Anyone know what level Gaenor is? If you could Command him, and take him to those "Red Eyes" that the crazy lady has...or piss off a few High Ordinators.
NinjaSalad
I use an Absorb Agility enchanted Dedric Di-Katana to kill him, although I was using my best character, If you want a free set of Ebony armour go to the Urshilaku Camp then go south to the dwemer ruins/ vampire home and there is full set on a vampire.
Malchik
QUOTE(NinjaSalad @ Nov 7 2004, 08:58 PM)
I use an Absorb Agility enchanted Dedric Di-Katana to kill him, although I was using my best character, If you want a free set of Ebony armour go to the Urshilaku Camp then go south to the dwemer ruins/ vampire home and there is full set on a vampire.
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The vampire Mastrius is the one who gives you the quest for the Spell-breaker Shield. (You have to be a vampire to get it). You will end up with the ebony armour afterwards. If you intend to play as a vampire don't kill him earlier.
rjoeman
health cheat plain and simple, then just hack away till hes dead
Brandon_Redblood
Also, remember this isn't gonna be a super easy fight for any type of character. Gaenor has a full suit of Ebony Armor, and a wicked long blade. He's quite fast and strong. If you're expecting to have to face him sometime soon, be ready with some restore health potions, and if you're a mage type, have some restore magicka... since you can't levitate in Mournhold, mages who rely on flight and destruction combos for difficult boss battles will have to develop an alternate strategy.. the key is , without his armor and sword, he's not as tough. A nice, powerful spell which dissentigrates armor and weapon is highly recommended for this type of battle.
Adras
Heck, I'm level 18 and getting my butt kicked by Reiklings and Goblins. I doubt I have a chance against Gaenor right now =P My character is a Dunmer Battle Mage (skilled in magic and combat). I'll just keep your posts in mind until I'm a higher lever sq_yellow_happy.gif
caldera_modshop
I did thanks to 2 of my favourite possessions.
Trueflame
and
Royal Guard Armour

oh and damage his luck.
Bad_Skeelz
(sorry if this is necromancy, but I'm pretty sure that only refers to a thread thats over a month dead)

I'm not sure what difficulty you guys are fighting Gaenor on, but my level 33 heavy-armor sword-waving guy just went toe-to-toe with him and killed him after five minutes. I would suggest bringing lots of good restore-health potions (and Elidon's Ward, that helped) and aiming for his head. I started the fight with a Bound Longsword, but switched to an Ebony LS after my enchanted pauldron broke (its constant effect bound, you see. Stupid nordic armor) about halfway through the fight.

My heavy armor and LS sword skill were both above 100 due to various items, but nevertheless he isn't someone you should fence with unless you have Marara's Ring (this is the 40% resist normal attack mentioned earlier) or some other damage-reducing item. I also had Azura's Ring and the Necromancer Amulet, so fatigue wasn't a huge problem.

Nevertheless I was knocked down probably six times in the fight, having to drink a restore health every time just to prevent him from killing me. I found that if you can get him to about half-health things seem to go much easier, or perhaps I just became enraged at that point and began going for his head. He's going to block just about all of your attacks, so get a weapon with good durability (ebony or daedric, or one of the unique swords) and just keep wailing on him. Eventually his shield will brake and it will be much easier to take him down.
Abramul
Or start by hitting him with a HIGH-powered disintegrate armor---while having a LOT of resist magicka on yourself!
ballistyx
Nothing wrong with simply hacking away at him :D

Just had to use 10-12 Excl restore health. Mind you, my defenses probably helped a bit . . .
LVL60 with 70%shield, resist normal weapons 40%and 226 armor.

I would like to extend my sincere thanks to Wraithguard, Ebony Mail, and Marara's Ring.

You could probably have bombarded him with spells too - just make sure you have strong resistance to the effects of your spells.
>Argonian thief<
Or you could have Constant effect chamleon

exquiste ameulet 24%
exquiste ring 24%
exquiste ring 24%
exquiste belt 8%
Exusite pants 10%
exquiste shirt 10%

= 100% chamleon he'll never be able to see you, In fact You'll probly get the first hit on a critical stirke if you dont talk to him first


(p.s. dont kid yourself, because you are 100% invisble some people will still be able to see you. This includes gods like Vivec. Also there very few regular NPC's that will see you but there arent that many of them)
dood the dud
Argonian thief, he sees you always and he starts the conversation.

anyway, i beat Gaenor with my sword (enchanted heal 20 to 30 health every hit) and a few exclusive health potions. I was lvl 31 and had 6 life after the battle and was reduced to using standard healing. Gaenor has an amulet with contsant effect plus 15 luck. He is not impossible to hit, just go so close to him that you have to almost look down. also, do not use weapons that hurt fire or anything, he reflects all magic cast on him, hitting him with a blade that does extra magic damage is just dumb.

I have no cheats or mods yet, my long blade and light armour skills are lvl 100.
Gaenor has full ebony and an ebony long sword. Whoever it is who said to go for the head and that he blocks most attacks is right, also, another durable material is stalhrim, the icey stuff you get in EEC quests, mine is enchanted stalhrim long sword with the mentioned above enchantment.

I beat Gaenor with no spells whatsoever (though i am good with magic, he just reflects it) and I am horrible with ranged weapon. I fought him face to face also.
Abramul
One spell you're always safe to use is Absorb Health/Magicka/Whatever. If it reflects, you end up casting on yourself, and no harm is done.
CLB1110
This is how I beat him. I brought about 20 exclusive restore health and fatigue potions each. I snuck up on him and landed a critical hit. Then I just slashed away until he was dead.
NinjaSalad
Is there actually any other turn out besides him hoing ape-shit? I've tried cutting him off at all the differnt amounts of money but to no avail.
Inconnu
No, he's a little joke from Bethesda. He will still end up level 50 in full Ebony armor no matter what you do after activating the dialouge to give him money.

I checked the Construction Set, and it seems he has a very powerful ability in addition to the amulet. Well, it would seem like the amulet is an addition to the ability considering it buffs his luck by 500, magicka resistance of 80-100, reflect of 50-100, and restore health of 1, but...the amulet only adds 15 to his luck.

Some sick humor from Bethesda... I'm sure the team was amused by Gaenor from conception to placement.
Adras
Here is a new question about killing Gaenor: If you are strong enough to kill almost anyone in 1 hit (not like a god, more like a low-level, close relative to Fargoth) and you decide to pound on Gaenor before he zaps outta there (he teleports away if you attack him), will his dead corpse go away in a flash, or will he just die on the spot and you have to escape from the guards? (You would think that the only reason the guards havent killed him is because they are officials, and would get fired if they did)
interpol
Ok take a huge mace and shove it up his but
Abramul
That action is not supported in the Morrowind engine. Sorry.
CrazyGilbert
probably one of combat enhanced moves suports it though lol

anyway, i found that just buying tons and tons of health potions does the trick or summoning all of the atronachs and a dremora would help too but no magic because he usually reflects it kicking your sorry arse
Ravage
i actully pushed him off the edge.
straight when u see him in that big room with the moddly gaint run and him and he falls,them levitate and go down where he did and attack the heart how ur meant to without toching the ground
Adras
Umm, I believe that is Dagoth Ur. We are talking about Gaenor here...
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AngelicBlackWolf
I hated having to battle this blasted luck obsessed woodelf...

Thankfully with a bit o' luck on my part, combat enhanced, necromancer's amulet (Has a 25% against normal weapons if I remember correctly; don't use it anymore.) Daedric Long Sword, Daedric Staff, Daedric Spear. I knocked him silly across the temple courtyard. grin.gif

First I started off by disarming the woodelf of his weapon with a 'long sword combo', switched to my staff, knocked him down with the staffs 'knock down' move, then proceeded to daisy chain as many combos as I could with the spear. And just to spite the bugger...I used the spear's 'finishing' combo: impale.

But out of all of that -- disarming him of his sword was the most beneficial.

(Lots of health potions, don't forget to take those along too. A must have.)
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