Well as we all know the Middle Earth Mod for Morrowind has come to a forceful conclusion. But what i would like to know does anyone think we will ever be able to walk around Middle Earth like we want to, the way we would of been able to in MeMod.

Does anyone think a game will ever be released like this? To be honest i dont think we'd have a chance with EA making it lol I mean all the other games that have been brought out, have yes had some of the famous places in but there just not the same. Those IMO were just to bring more money in from crazed movie fans.

I hope people from the Tolkien Estate and from where ever read all of this on these boards and realise how many people want this so much. Who knows some one may make a game the way we want it and not just for the main stream people, what do you all think?

how bad could Middle Earth: The Third Age be? I hated two towers and return of the king by ea but this would be an rpg...

To be honest i dont think we'll now ever get a Middle Earth Game that would met our expectation as MeMod. I mean this was being made by people who weren't even going to make any money, because they were making because they loved Middle Earth and the works of Tolkien. As long as it is being made by people just wanting to make money, it will not be the same.

No I seriously doubt any game maker would be as dedicated and driven as the fine Memod team. This mod wasn't about money and thous wasn't trying to apeal to everyone which all to often forces developers to bastardise realy good stories and ideas just to squeeze out a few extra dollars. No I belive the dream dies here with a piece of us all.

http://www.meo.com/

Its out only hope...

Lets hope they can combine gameplay with a true reconstruction of Middle-Earth.

I think that the dream is dying here. MEMod has been my dream, but now it is nothing but an illusion. A Middle-Earth like MEMod is never going to be released; everything is about money and no mainstream-audience would enjov MEMod as much as we would. This is the saddest day of my life...


pharzon..

This is my first official post and I am grieving greatly for the memod but not to go off on a tangent

Could MEMod possibly pull the same sort of deal that AME is doing? Just having people sign up as 'team members' before downloading therefore getting around the legal logistics? MAYBE? POSSIBLY!? pleeeassseee!

That may work, but I doubt that will happen.....

The only way I can think of it happening - Bethsoft hires the entire team to make an expansion. Instead of giving them salary, they pay Tolkien Estate/whoever they need to to get the licences to create it. Then release it as an expansion to MW.

Unlikely...

O ya, err what happened to AME? I believe i was signed on their forums, guess i lost the link.

AME claims they have a loophole in the international copyright laws that is allowing them to continue. But sooner or later there project will either close out of the free will of the developers, or be shut down.

Unfortunately, there are no holes in copyright laws.

It's too bad that Bethsoft dosn't scoop us up like Valve did with the CS team.

Who knows something could happen yet, guess where just going to have to wait and see.

noone will ever make something like that..cause its illegal for those who could really make it...
to hell with ea and all the other license-buyer, money-eater **********************-s


/me goes mad...

True. Something may yet come....

Personally, I think that Bethsoft should pick this up, since the Devs and the team are of high caliber and quality craftsmanship. Everything that I have seen on the forums regarding models, scripting, story writing, and the like has shown that these folks are dedicated to making quality work.

And I would agree, albeit coincidental, that Bethsoft has given Oblivion many qualities that MEMod came up with. Though, if this is true, there's nothing we can do about it. Since we have no Patent or Copyright to MEMod, all of our ideas are fair game...

Welcome to the world of the Gaming Industry.

It still kills me to see such an excellent story (The Scion) never see the light of day. Kills me even more is that one company can own Middle-Earth, even though it belongs more to it's fans and loyal readers, rather than a corporation who looks at it as a means of making money, irregardless of how poorly represented or cheaply made (MEO, anyone?) it is. Even to the point of butchering the world that Tolkien made.

In summation, we, the true fans, should be the stewards of Tolkien's world. Not a corporation, not TE (unless they show recognition to the fans), and not any business who is out to just make money off of Middle-Earth. They are not rightful stewards, because they do not care for the sanctity nor the respectuful preservation of one man's creation, his gift to all of us.

...I'm going to go lie down for a while...

I always have Wizards Islands. Well, I created this topic to come up with two suggestions for things you can do to "save" MEMod, which has been done in real world: (hope they are a possibility)

1. Contact a TV channel. Tell them your story. I've heard of projects that failed, like this, which has been in a documentary. It will get you some support from the people, and sometimes the majority wins (though i don't think in this case ). At least you get some pity other than ours.

2. Rename it all. I've heard of a LotR game which didn't get the permission like you. So they renamed it all!!! Use words like "Midget" for Hobbit, just use your creativity. They haven't got copyright on winged helmets right? Or white trees. That way, you don't have to scrap it all. You'll might have to change the plot, but it will still contain the spirit of ME.
It will still be fun to explore a town, which lies on a continent which looks like ME, and the town itself reminds you of Osgilliath:P

Hope this works.
Else I'll kill something. Bye.

A documentary would be a little help. Plus it would be interesting to watch.

Renaming everything...That would be hard (at least I think so) but if they got to release it, worth it. Maybe you could add an extra letter like a or something to every word like "hobbita" "Osgilliatha".

1. No TV would transmit a documentary about the MeMod having been "unjustly" canceled due to copyright issues. And even if you found a TV station which found that interesting, and you managed to win a little simpathy, that would still be of no help at all.

2. First of all, in these two days and a half the idea has already been discussed several times. Suzerain clearly stated that it is not his intention, nor the intention of anyone in the team, to make a mockery of the works they loved, as that is not in the spirit of the MeMod.

Even if Suzerain agreed to change every name in the mod, it would not still be enough. Copyright laws aren't that easy to fool, and you can not claim that your work counts as "fair use" being a parody of Middle Earth, if all you did was just change the names a little. "hobbita" and "Osgiliatha", in addition to sounding grotesque, would STILL be an infringement of copyright laws.

What if every team-member moved to the mighty mountains of Himalaya? Up there, no lawyer could find you, and the rest of us could distribute the mod via hand-burned cd's(using gloves to avoid fingerprints naturally)...

Heh, don't we wish... Unfortunately adding letters or renaming things wouldn't keep the spirit of Middle Earth, It'd just be a beautifull and awesome (excuse me for saying this) Cheap copy of ME so, we could protest, I doubt it'd work, but again, better than sitting still... isn't it? uhh?

Pads

Rename the copyrighted things (Like Hobbits, to, say, little people), many things will NOT be copywritten. Dwarves are not in any way, and neither are elves, trolls, dragons and most of the things in Middle Earth.


And, we can change them to the correct ones ourselves.

I seriously doubt that this mod will be attacked by any company anyway. Another idea, though, would be to offer the mod to the company sueing you. (If they bother) Tell them your sorry and let them perhaps sell it. By then we'll all have a copy or just buy it from that company.

As Ancalagon said, I thinkl everyone agrees that Bethesoft should do to the MEMod team what Valve did to the CSteam.
The only problem is getting them to do so.
What I was thinking is that if everyone on the forum (And their friends) mails both Bethesoft and the company owning the copyrights, begging the first to bring MEMod team under their wing, and the latter to allow MEmod to continue. If enough people do so, I think one or the other would cave in. (Especially if we said we were going to buy their Middle Earth games anyway)

What do you think? Could it work? (Do we have anything to lose anyway?) I certainly would be willing to spend an hour or two of my time trying to save MEMod, even on a dead end idea. (And you know, I think it might)

I totally understand everyone's desire to keep MEMod going, but it's not going to happen. It's hard for all of us.

The whole idea behind MEMod was to precisly recreate every detail of Tolkiens world. Renaming Hobbits for example would totaly destroy the credability of MeMod.

Simply have another plgin that changes the changed names right back to the original. If your lazy enough not the download the second (Wholly separate) plugin, I really don't care.

I really don't mean to overstep my bounds, but it seems to me that people are going to keep asking until the devs say "OK, we cave in. We're just going to use all the generic names so that we can tribute Tolkien".

Its over and done with. If the status ever changes, which to me seems far out on the outer rim of possibility, I fairly certain that one of the senior devs will come out and lavish the good news. But I'm not going to be holding my breath.

Here is what I say: each and every one of us signed up on the forums to quest the world of ME, right? Well, thats gone, but I'll tell you what, after years of waiting for MEmod, while I originally came for Middle-Earth, I stayed because of the vision and perfectionism that ensured that I would be completely enthralled in the world they were creating.

I really hope you make good use of what you have, and not just to be dissected by every pecking vulture that comes along. Thats why I will give my full praise and confidence in whatever the team may do next, if one massive total conversion wasn't enough for them.

Caffeine running thin through veins ....me tired.....dreams of elves, vala and magic commencing...

peaccc.......ZzZzZzZz

MEMod documentary. Now that would be something.

something x-rated, with half the language I've use in the devs channels....

hmm.
Apart from the cocaine - drugs are bad, kids. (and my poison is absinthe, anyway....)
Cailwyn... have you been spying on us?

But theta, the media loves video games ....

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I believe Suzerain has requested that people do NOT start any such campaigns, and I fully agree with him.


http://mwsource.net/forum/index.php?showto...pic=10645&st=96

Nevermind then.

Well i fully understand your positions...
but as more as I read the more I get the feeling
you already(?) gave up...

well but I think there won't be anything comparable to MeMod
and I'm sad that the circumstances forced you to stop the Project.
Anyway: good job dev team! keep going on like that (not with Memod actually :-) )

Hello,
its my first post here, but i`m watching the projetct since the beginning.

When i read that MeMod has been canceled, i was shocked, but my second idea was, why doestn`t the MeMod Devs go to the press? I`ve seen in some PC Magazines, reports concearning the MeMod for example GameStar (Germany) or PCGamer (GB) and maybe more. So maybe is there a little hope, that they can explain to that curios "society" that the MeMod was a dream of many gamers, and that it is there right to fulfill there dream.

Maybe, if the magazines report about that ?unjustice? many people around the world will write letters to the Tolkien society and please them to allow that unique projekt!

@Devs: Please go to the press!
@All: write letters and eMails to the press and to that society!

If we stick together, they can`t ignore us!!!

Edit:
Ok, i`ve wrote eMails to all the three great german Pc Magazines. And also to giga, thats a german TV PC-Channel...in the mails i pleased them to report about that unjustice!!!

Lets follow mails to Us and GB and all over the world Magazines!

Sorry for my english, but its early in the morning and i`m german...

While we all appreciate the effort I don't know if it will help. We all loved our baby, but I think the sad truth is that it's dead. Thank you for your efforts though.