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Blaze of flames
hey did anybody see i robot i saw it i thought it was the best movie ive ever seen it had everythin action comedy and more i give this movie a 10 out of 10 the speacial effects were awsome and they didnt over do it the cars were cool also anybody who likes future movies then you got to see this it was totally worth the money im so gonna bye it when it comes out on dvd i wonder if there gonna make a i robot game well since it did so well in theaters they probly will if they dont ill rip_1.gif die but anyways this movie definatly got my attention it is the best movie i saw this year so far i recomend it if you havent seen it yet to see it now biggrin.gif
Eiade
It wasn't the best movie I've ever seen but it was darn good. Will Smith is freakin hilarious.
Peregrine
1) Speak English. If even partial literacy is too hard for you, do not post here.

2) Just one question for you: did you read the book?
Blaze of flames
i did not read the book but i think i will soon thanks for the heads up about the book
UberBender
Someone mentioned this a while back, but I think I should point (no pun intended) it out again. There is this really neato key on your keyboard called the "period" key. There it is right at the end of all my sentences. It helps to seperate your thoughts into an easy to read format. Go on, give it a try. You'll be amazed at the results. You instantly stop being called a nØØb, people respect you more, and most important of all, you can pass the 1st grade. So learn to use this nifty little key, and remember, it's never to late to say you're sorry.

And about the movie, It was ok but kind of cheesy.
tyjet3
I agree with Eiade... The movie rocked, but it wasn't the best... The special effects were really good, probably the best I have seen out of most movies. The story was a little cliche by now (the matrix kind of owned the whole "robot take over the world" thing) but they did it in such a way that it was very fun to watch... It is definitly worth 7 bucks to see though...

@Uberbender: It's funny... I have a problem with using too many periods...
valdir
Agreed on the "speak english" tip.

Also, there is only one thing that could be said for I, Robot:

Aw, hell naw!

That's it. You simply can't say anymore. Oh, and there was blatant advertising all throughout the movie, and not in a good way like in Wayne's World.

I completely disagree with anything you say.

~Val
UberBender
QUOTE (tyjet3 @ Aug 18 2004, 01:06 PM)
The story was a little cliche by now (the matrix kind of owned the whole "robot take over the world" thing)

I think Matrix copied Teminator. If you think about it the two universes could be same. (Terminator in the beginning and the Matrix later on)

"Vintage 2004."

That was incredibly lamo. People in the future won't have shoes. They'll have hover sandels that carry them everywhere.
Blaze of flames
hey they probaly will have hover boots if anything not sandals.
tyjet3
QUOTE
I think Matrix copied Teminator. If you think about it the two universes could be same. (Terminator in the beginning and the Matrix later on)


I suppose you could say that, but the Matrix gave it such a great twist that it seemed orginal. Terminator was more of a "time travel epic" thing. The Matrix did more things along the reason why it happened and made a much better story out of it. And besides, I think the Matrix was a lot more succesful than Terminator, it will stick in peoples memories longer than Terminator...

It's kind of funny, both movies had bad actors as the main character...
wallernotsowelsh
http://thebestpageintheuniverse.com/c.cgi?u=i_robot

Extremist view, dont hate me, i find some of this guys work almost funny sad.gif
Blaze of flames
WHAT ohmy.gif you cant be serius you think hes almost funny. Then again wink.gif this is one of the first movies ive seen thats acually funny most of his other arnt. angry03.gif well i think this movie is funny. So maybe not all of his movies are funny that doesnt mean anything just that hes getting better laugh.gif well tecnicly his riters are laugh.gif
Peregrine
SPEAK ENGLISH. If you can't take the time to use something at least resembling proper English, you obviously don't care about your post. And if you don't care about it, it obviously isn't worth posting.

Seriously, your posts are painful to read.

And as much as I hate to quote Maddox, that page is exactly right. Using the I Robot name on such absolute garbage is an insult to one of science fiction's greatest writers.
Breton Thief Oriana
QUOTE (Peregrine @ Aug 18 2004, 01:39 PM)
SPEAK ENGLISH. If you can't take the time to use something at least resembling proper English, you obviously don't care about your post. And if you don't care about it, it obviously isn't worth posting.

Seriously, your posts are painful to read.

And as much as I hate to quote Maddox, that page is exactly right. Using the I Robot name on such absolute garbage is an insult to one of science fiction's greatest writers.

Yeah, but I heard the special effects were choice.
Peregrine
Pointless post removed.

And BTO, a movie with good effects but nothing else is a waste of time. If I want good effects, I'll watch test animations on 3d art forums.
cmac
As a movie, it was reasonably good. If you read the book, it sucked. Not only did it not adhere to the plotline of the stories in anything but concept, it shamelessly pings about ten ads in about five minutes- everything from Ovaltine to Converse sneakers.

I must say, though, that the special effects were spectacular, although they are indeed nothing if the movie lacks all the other good qualities.
Below is a picture that I found online that more or less adequately rates I, Robot:
Also: Naked Will Smith showering scene: not needed.
Breton Thief Oriana
QUOTE (Peregrine @ Aug 18 2004, 02:24 PM)
Pointless post removed.

And BTO, a movie with good effects but nothing else is a waste of time. If I want good effects, I'll watch test animations on 3d art forums.

Well, I didnt see the movie anyway... What it is is another will smith cookie cutter flick. We alredy have like five of those.
Blaze of flames
Still I think that this is one of Will Smith's better movies beside the ads it was a good movie.
valdir
QUOTE (Blaze of flames @ Aug 18 2004, 06:04 PM)
Still I think that this is one of Will Smith's better movies beside the ads it was a good movie.

Will Smith doesn't have "better" movies. He has stuff.

PS. Getting the Asimov book, ASAP.

~Valdir
InstInct
When i went to watch the movie, i'd already read some reviews (including the one mentioned earlier, though i stumbled apon it on my own) so i went in with not too high expectations. But i have to say i was suprised with how much fun it was too watch, sure the advertisement was corny, and it's three-rules twist was not as inventive as in asimov's books that concerns em (yes i've read some of his work), but still it was fun. Can't put my finger on why I thought it was a good movie, but i did.
Blaze of flames
shiftyph34r.gif Hey like I said I robot was good ranting2.gif so see it now if you havent. OMFG they plan to check you if you bring your own snacks to the movie's laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif that will be a site I just keep the snacks in my hat hahahaha thats what I did with I robot. So does anybody think it was good enough to buy I think it was but that's just my opion.
Hir_Nesta
I think he's just ignoring all that stuff about correct english...
At least until now he didn't react on the posts...

Well my opinion is, (to come back 2 the topic)
I enjoyed the film very much, although I read many negative critics and many
friends telling me that its not like the book and all that stuff.
So I was very sceptic. But the film itself is actually quite good.
I liked it...it was great.

I've been surprised positively. (I do not know the book though)
wallernotsowelsh
Saw it today, wasn't hugely impressed but it was fun.
Alexander the Great
People dont have to burn the movie if it wasnt exactly like the book. For gods sake look at lord of the rings. They left out plenty of things. The advertising thing was funny to me. But anyway, i think Will Smith did a relatively good job with this movie. But in almost every movie he has ever been in he has to say "aw hell naw" He just has too. Anyway i found the movie great. It actually was one of the better ones ive seen this year. And yes i have read the book and many other pieces by Asimov
DreamOfTheRood
I agree with Alexander. You absolutely can not fault them for changing the storyline, because a lot of movies do that. Just a few examples:
Cold Mountain - In the movie, the main bad guys are more fleshed out and real. In the book, they don't show up as much.
The Lord of the Rings - Many pivotal events and characters were left out to speed up the narrative. Consequently, the movies are much better than the books.
The Matrix - Obviously, this movie is a more realized form of Plato's 'Allegory of the Cave.' Thus, they changed tons of things to fit into the storyline - like not making it the 'Allegory of the Cave.'

Now, as for the best movies of the year, this is an easy, easy list:
1) Kill Bill: Volume 2 - A perfect film. Without a doubt, it features the best martial arts since Les Pactes Des Loups, and the story is an emotional rollercoaster, filled with tension, humor and an homage to Superman. God bless Q and U.
2) Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind- The best romance film since Amelie, the best psychology movie since Seven and the best sci-fi film since Minority Report all rolled up into one big ball of heartbreak and wisdom.
3) Alien Vs. Predator - As far as pure-popcorn entertainment goes, this is the pinnacle. Both of the series' preceding films were basically sci-fi/horror films, but this one did a one-eighty straight into the action department and totally rocked. Turn off the left side of your brain, keep your hands and feet inside the vehicle and prepare to get punched apart.
4) Spiderman 2 - Comics' most relatable man in spandex plays with tentacles. When his semi-girlfriend tells him to kiss her, he goes for the full on body grope instead. That's a manly man.

Worst films of the year:
Van Helsing, The Village
valdir
QUOTE (DreamOfTheRood @ Aug 23 2004, 11:48 PM)
Consequently, the movies are much better than the books.

Please throw yourself into moving traffic.

k thnx

~Val
DreamOfTheRood
QUOTE (valdir @ Aug 24 2004, 05:19 AM)
Please throw yourself into moving traffic.

k thnx

~Val

Well, that didn't take very long at all. Let me defend my position here before you wish vehicular death upon me.

Tolkien was a linguistics and history professor. He was a big idea kind of guy, and he was very good at those big ideas. He developed intricately detailed histories for this world he called Middle-Earth and managed to populate it with rich a wonderful races. His descriptions, though dry, managed to evoke incredible imagery.
However, rich and wonderful races and cultures do not automatically equate to rich and wonderful characters, and this is where the story fails for me. The main characters seem rather vapid. I know their trials and tribulations, but their real motivations are cloaked in prophecies, destiny and other mystical forces. Tolkien doesn't let them talk their motivations out to each other, and thus the reader is left in the cold as to why the characters do the things that they do. Although I understand the plight of the characters, it seems to me that they are thrown from one plot point to the next. Tolkien doesn't give them the plot space to really think, and, consequently, the story just doesn't grab me.
So, yes, I like the plot, but the author left me to infer the characters' motivations rather than just be straightforward about them. Simply, I don't like it.
Tolkien is a professor. He was a brilliant man, but he was not a very good writer. Much of the story is written with a dry, textbook tone. It's just the meat and potatoes of a plot without getting the spicy details. His descriptions are very detailed, nearly to the point of inducing sleep. They are much more befitting a script rather than a novel, and this is something that Peter Jackson understood very clearly. He used those descriptions to design the incredible set pieces that were used in the films. He used the descriptions of the characters to perfectly cast each part - the casting itself is done so well that one cannot read the books without seeing Elijah Wood as Frodo, Sean Astin as Sam or Slugg from the Goonies as Sauron's Liutenant.
I see The Lord of the Rings as the pinnacle of the epic film, and there can be no doubt that the books kickstarted every single fantasy genre. Without LOTR, we simply would not have the level of fantasy fiction that we have today. So, that's what I see as the good and bad of it.
If you want an example of rich and rewarding fantasy literature, pick up China Mieville's Perdido Street Station.
valdir
Tolkien's is the best fiction I have ever read. The world, characters and everything is almost humanely real. If you can't see that, than I pity you. Tolkien's writing is brilliant and the history textbook style of writing made it seem all the more real.

It's all a matter of opinion, but unfortunately for you, about 90% of this forum will dissagree with you and many people will want to kill your face for speaking such blasphemy! ph34r.gif

Clearly, you must be on drugs. huh.gif

~Val
Dinin
I'm going to have to agree with dream here. Don't get me wrong, I love lotr. I was watching the 70's hobbit cartoon and the lotr cartoon on VHS back when i was like 7. But dream does have a point when he's talking about dry history book writing.

And its true, you are reading a history lesson in the beginning of the books and sometimes within. You are reading a history lesson on all of Aragorn's heirs and all the cities etc. Sometimes i felt like i was reading the Bible (jacob begot isaac, isaac begot joseph, joseph begot.....)

Tolkien did a GREAT thing when he wrote those books, but he should have been a little more vague on the past, and focused more on his present day characters (Aragorn, legolas and so forth) I mean, you almost have just as much or more information on Aragorn's father or grandfather than you do on Aragorn. Yes the history makes it realistic, but who wants to read a history book?

And if people want to kill my face for thinking this, then well... good luck on that.

edit: man, this kinda strayed from I, Robot. Sorry mods, i'm not doing too well when it comes to posting on the right topic.
Blaze of flames
Ok now that thats settled lets get back to I, Robot. This has been bothering me for awhile what catagory would I, Robot be put wink.gif in I mean its action and comedy and more. So which catagory would it go in.
Peregrine
Thank you for proving my point so well. It's an absolute destruction of a great book when you can't even place the movie in the same category! Here's a hint, I Robot is one of the more important SCIENCE FICTION novels in history.
DreamOfTheRood
Well, it's like this. The movie, like many Will Smith sci-fi vehicles, is an action comedy. I mean, it's almost a buddy cop flick. However, the book is a science fiction philosophy text with more in common with Aristotle than Flash Gordon.
Peregrine
My point exactly. It's an insult to the author to use the same name, while completely changing everything about the original. Especially when the author/book are loved by so many people in the original form.

It's just like if someone made "Lord of the Rings" as a horror/comedy film, it would be an absolute insult to Tolkien.
FlightlessBird
Thats why i think books should not be made into movies. Just video games. Now I know games can still screw up some story lines and all but I'd stil rather see a book go into a game then a movie. hahaha hope they dont make a game out of Irobot....*prays* please dont jinx that. please dont jinx that...

I'm feeling tierd right now so please go easy on me if i made some rediculous point or something...
DreamOfTheRood
QUOTE (FlightlessBird @ Aug 27 2004, 01:18 AM)
Thats why i think books should not be made into movies.

The Lord of the Rings. Excalibur. To Kill A Mockingbird.

Those are just three great films that were adapted from books. LotR was, of course, taken from J.R.R. Tolkien's fantasy trilogy. Excalibur was adapted from myriad sources, including The Knights of the Round Table and The Once and Future King. To Kill A Mockingbird was taken from a book that every high school student in the US has seen.

Here's a list of great movies adapted from video games:


I rest my case.
Blaze of flames
I must agree with Dreamoftherood all great movies have usually origanated from great books. I mean pretty much all the directors do is read a book then change it around to their likeing shiftyph34r.gif sometimes they dont change it at all if they like the book.
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