Okay I guess we all know that kind of people I'm talking about. Social losers that can't even handle their own life, people who let themselves be treated like slaves or whatever, without saying anything. But once they log onto the internet they change to total suckers who can't do anything else than to flame or picking on others, only to gain some attention they would never get in their real lives.
But WHY do people act like that? i mean... What's the big deal with it? I wouldn't be proud of being hated by people I don't even know, I could not be proud of beiing banned somewhere due ot pure stupidity. And IF you try to talk to them logically, the only thing you get is: 'lol?' just because they seem to never have learned HOW to have a normal conversation.
I don't really know if I should feel sorry for people like them, or simply ignore them (what makes them really mad in the end).
I mean it's true, you can put on a mask being on the internet, but what does that change? Nothing I guess. You can lie and whatever, but that doesn't make you better at all so why? *shakes head*
As for myself it's just like in real life. Either people love me, or they hate me like the devil himself, there's nothing in between. ANd I do not really care for it, because i OPEN my mouth if I feel to do so. I tell my oppinion if I feel like I have to. That's something a few people do mind, but hell... WHY should I lie? Just to make people like me? No way. I rather have some real good friends I can talk to about everything in the world than a whole bunch of idiots around me that act like fans unless I don't say the wrong thing.
Another thing is... the internet tends to make ADULT people step back into a state of mind they should have had during kindergarden. It's really impossible what you can see sometimes. A community of average 40 years old fighting each other like small infants in a sandbox... If I'd see them do that IRL I'd laugh my ass off, really.
Some people using the internet are real psychos... They shouldn't really be allowed to do so imho... >.<
Real life versus internet Why do people act the way they do?
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Posted 12 September 2008 - 04:16 PM
I'll write a short response about my opinion. In my life as is right now, its not exactly a happy place, nor is it worth committing suicide over. Though things can be bad, I don't flame others on the internet.
When it comes to internet friends and real life friends, I try to seperate them. For example, if I met someone on the Nexus, I wouldn't contact them over the phone. In a way, I sometimes visualize the person as they are portrayed in their avatar. For example, I picture Stampede as being a minotaur, and Alienslof as being a male high elf. lol
Anyway, though I keep my own personality the same as my real life personality (ex. not lying about gender, state, country I'm from, whatever), I do seperate my life as another avatar from my life as a living entity.
In real life I am highly reclusive and actually have a problem speaking. To explain it in short words, I can't properly line up my words in an intelligible sentence in the mind first before speaking them. Instead of saying, "Please bring me a glass of water with ice," I may say something like, "Can you get a, you know, that thing, that's icy. Some water." I rarely notice it but it can be problematic when dealing with non family. But when it comes to writing, I can say what I mean far more clearly.
Don't want to get off topic. I like the internet, and it can be a fun place. Being anti-social, I have a way to speak without speaking or being near others. That's just my opinion.
I agree that trolls are doing something bad. But they are making up for a hole in their life, though trolling isn't a good way to fill it. Perhaps if they said something very nice about whatever it is they are talking about, they would get positive attention. But, receiving negative attention for the sake of attention is a trait that can be found even in toddlers. I'd say its near instinctive, though I am no psychiatrist.
When it comes to internet friends and real life friends, I try to seperate them. For example, if I met someone on the Nexus, I wouldn't contact them over the phone. In a way, I sometimes visualize the person as they are portrayed in their avatar. For example, I picture Stampede as being a minotaur, and Alienslof as being a male high elf. lol
Anyway, though I keep my own personality the same as my real life personality (ex. not lying about gender, state, country I'm from, whatever), I do seperate my life as another avatar from my life as a living entity.
In real life I am highly reclusive and actually have a problem speaking. To explain it in short words, I can't properly line up my words in an intelligible sentence in the mind first before speaking them. Instead of saying, "Please bring me a glass of water with ice," I may say something like, "Can you get a, you know, that thing, that's icy. Some water." I rarely notice it but it can be problematic when dealing with non family. But when it comes to writing, I can say what I mean far more clearly.
Don't want to get off topic. I like the internet, and it can be a fun place. Being anti-social, I have a way to speak without speaking or being near others. That's just my opinion.
I agree that trolls are doing something bad. But they are making up for a hole in their life, though trolling isn't a good way to fill it. Perhaps if they said something very nice about whatever it is they are talking about, they would get positive attention. But, receiving negative attention for the sake of attention is a trait that can be found even in toddlers. I'd say its near instinctive, though I am no psychiatrist.
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Posted 12 September 2008 - 04:56 PM
There's really no need for a big explanation, it can be summed up in one small word: safety. On the interwebs, you can be as big of a flaming douche as you like and not have to worry that someone like me will rip your arms off.
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Posted 13 September 2008 - 06:31 AM
Attention whoring.<-- I think that and what Michlo said pretty much sum it up.
Anyone who has kids, or siblings, should know this happens. You don't get attention, you'll do pretty much anything to get it, doesn't matter whether it's good or bad. It's instinctive, you lack attention in RL, you have some kind of control of what you're doing there-->go over to the net, start trolling and get your attention. Once you get banned etc. you know someone has noticed you and feel a little better, although most likely the feeling ends quite fast since they tend to move on to another place where they can continue their mongering and bickering.
Not a psychiatrist or a psychologists, just some general knowledge and RL experience of the topic.
Anyone who has kids, or siblings, should know this happens. You don't get attention, you'll do pretty much anything to get it, doesn't matter whether it's good or bad. It's instinctive, you lack attention in RL, you have some kind of control of what you're doing there-->go over to the net, start trolling and get your attention. Once you get banned etc. you know someone has noticed you and feel a little better, although most likely the feeling ends quite fast since they tend to move on to another place where they can continue their mongering and bickering.
Not a psychiatrist or a psychologists, just some general knowledge and RL experience of the topic.
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Posted 13 September 2008 - 07:48 AM
Somewhat counter to the trend, I am very-much the same online as I am in Real Life. I tend towards being a bit verbose, I rarely curse, I'm usually very easy to get along with, and I try to avoid stepping on toes as much as possible. Since I do a fair amount of travelling, I like to maintain good relations with people on the forum-boards I post on... it's downright handy to have an acquaintance already in place in the area you're coming into to hang-out with for a bit and get tips on the best food, lodging, and attractions. People who act the fool online haven't grasped that idea, yet.
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Posted 13 September 2008 - 09:32 AM
I prefer good talks to other people, rather than fighting. 
That's why I behave.
There are so much more ways to gain attention than just trolling, for example good art.. But I guess some people just don't like to put some work in it... That's kinda sad.
That's why I behave.
There are so much more ways to gain attention than just trolling, for example good art.. But I guess some people just don't like to put some work in it... That's kinda sad.
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Posted 13 September 2008 - 06:08 PM
@kungfubellydancer
What you said below is as if you were describing me.I'm not comfortable in social situations
in fact i've been diagnosed as having Social Anxiety Disorder.I have panic attacks as well.I
also,am more comfortable speaking to people on the internet than one on one.Until recently
i avoided forums for i thought i would be just as uncomfortable on a forum as i am in social
situations,however it seems so far that i was wrong.It seems i'm off topic but i was surprised
by what you said and while you may not have this disorder you're not alone when it comes to not being able to speak as clearly as you write.
What you said below is as if you were describing me.I'm not comfortable in social situations
in fact i've been diagnosed as having Social Anxiety Disorder.I have panic attacks as well.I
also,am more comfortable speaking to people on the internet than one on one.Until recently
i avoided forums for i thought i would be just as uncomfortable on a forum as i am in social
situations,however it seems so far that i was wrong.It seems i'm off topic but i was surprised
by what you said and while you may not have this disorder you're not alone when it comes to not being able to speak as clearly as you write.
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In real life I am highly reclusive and actually have a problem speaking. To explain it in short words, I can't properly line up my words in an intelligible sentence in the mind first before speaking them. Instead of saying, "Please bring me a glass of water with ice," I may say something like, "Can you get a, you know, that thing, that's icy. Some water." I rarely notice it but it can be problematic when dealing with non family. But when it comes to writing, I can say what I mean far more clearly.
I believe that flamers are people that have problems,whether mental or emotional,that they can't deal with in an appropriate way.Some,as already suggested,need to be right,to feel superior.In reality they feel inferior and,i believe,most have poor self esteem.Acting out on the internet is safe as WoogieMonster said because they won't have him trying to rip their arms off.lol Emotional immaturity counts for some of it as well,i expect.That's just my opinion.
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Posted 13 September 2008 - 08:03 PM
gandalftw, on Sep 13 2008, 01:08 PM, said:
@kungfubellydancer
What you said below is as if you were describing me.I'm not comfortable in social situations
in fact i've been diagnosed as having Social Anxiety Disorder.I have panic attacks as well.I
also,am more comfortable speaking to people on the internet than one on one.Until recently
i avoided forums for i thought i would be just as uncomfortable on a forum as i am in social
situations,however it seems so far that i was wrong.It seems i'm off topic but i was surprised
by what you said and while you may not have this disorder you're not alone when it comes to not being able to speak as clearly as you write.
What you said below is as if you were describing me.I'm not comfortable in social situations
in fact i've been diagnosed as having Social Anxiety Disorder.I have panic attacks as well.I
also,am more comfortable speaking to people on the internet than one on one.Until recently
i avoided forums for i thought i would be just as uncomfortable on a forum as i am in social
situations,however it seems so far that i was wrong.It seems i'm off topic but i was surprised
by what you said and while you may not have this disorder you're not alone when it comes to not being able to speak as clearly as you write.
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In real life I am highly reclusive and actually have a problem speaking. To explain it in short words, I can't properly line up my words in an intelligible sentence in the mind first before speaking them. Instead of saying, "Please bring me a glass of water with ice," I may say something like, "Can you get a, you know, that thing, that's icy. Some water." I rarely notice it but it can be problematic when dealing with non family. But when it comes to writing, I can say what I mean far more clearly.
I believe that flamers are people that have problems,whether mental or emotional,that they can't deal with in an appropriate way.Some,as already suggested,need to be right,to feel superior.In reality they feel inferior and,i believe,most have poor self esteem.Acting out on the internet is safe as WoogieMonster said because they won't have him trying to rip their arms off.lol Emotional immaturity counts for some of it as well,i expect.That's just my opinion.
Very well said gandalftw. Kudos to you. I as well, normally have trouble speaking to people I don't know. Not on Forums though. It's probably because when I joined these Forums, it was a relatively small community, and so I have a sort of "Group," if you will.
As for the Flamers, well, I think they have trouble in the real world speaking with people. On Forums they view themseleves as "Anonymous," so "they won't get their arms ripped out by people like me," in quote of WoogieMonster (Kudos to you WM
). I also think the reason people flame, is because they take a statement and flip-flop it around so it becomes an insult directed at them. I think they want sympathy from others, but end up burning themselves in in the end. A Flamer might take a sentence like "I really don't see why some people are so inconsiderate of others," but hear (or read, in this case) it as, "Why are you so greedy and selfish, you stupid noob?!" They will take the sentence and twist it around, until it is a personal insult.Just thought I'd put in my two-cents worth.
Cheers,
gman021
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