[TheLibrarianofVivec]

Hello all; I've been lurking about for a bit and I have a question.

Last night, I started a new game and wandered around looting tombs and such for a few levels, then started the main quest. When I was going through dialog with Hasphat Antabolis about House Dagoth, he said something to the effect of 'House Dagoth was the Sixth of the Seven Dunmer Great Houses..'

I've played MW off-and-on for over a year and had never noticed this statement, and I thought, wait, *seven* Great Houses? Were there actually seven, as opposed to the six you deal with or hear about in the game, or was that just a mistake on someone's part?

[Marxist ßastard]

Think about who's saying it. This is the primary candidate for the Chair of Dwemer Studies on Vvardenfell -- of course he'll be more inclined to represent, say, Dwemer-aligned secular Chimer as a major force.

[theRAIDER]

House Indoril
House Dres
House Redoran
House Hlaalu
House Telvanni
House Dagoth
House Dwemer

I'm not too sure about the order, but that's seven houses right there. I know, this confused me too until I learned about House Indoril and House Dres from reading books and stuff, they're unmentioned and have no claims on Vvardenfell.

[Chaosmaker]

RAIDER is correct those are the seven great house's. Presently when you are playing the game their are only 5 great house's from what i have gathered. Long before then there was the civil war within the great house's and House Dagoth and House Dwemer. However house Dwemer was not Dumner they where the Dwemer. The Dwemer are wiped out during the war and so are the Dagoth House untill they return and so on so forth. The other two house are located in the other parts of morrowind which does not include Vvardenfell which is just one part of Morrowind which takes up the North Eastern coast of the mainland. In all honesty The Elder Scrolls III should have been called Vvardenfell not Morrowind.

This post has been edited by Chaosmaker: 10 January 2006 - 09:00 PM

[Marxist ßastard]

Chaosmaker said:

The Elder Scrolls III should have been called Vvardenfell not Morrowind.

Vvardenfell doesn't give the box designers the same oppurtunity for a stylized Roman numeral three as the "W" in Morrowind.

[Vaanic~One]

theRAIDER, on Jan 10 2006, 07:24 PM, said:

House Indoril
House Dres
House Redoran
House Hlaalu
House Telvanni
House Dagoth
House Dwemer

House Indoril - Religious zealots, and the first of two warrior houses, The second most powerful house.

House Dres - Slavers, and farmers.

House Redoran - Very similar to house Indoril, though not as powerful. The Second of two warrior houses, also very religious.

House Hlaalu - The merchants house, has accepted the Empire and the armistice, Now driven into corruption, and filled to the brim with outlanders. Unfortunately, is also the most powerful house now.

House Telvanni - The Sorcerors house, Very misunderstood people, due to their reclusiveness. Extremely atheist.

House Dagoth - The Sixth house, now understood to be a house of madmen and beasts. Alas, it was not always that way, the only surviving *real* sixth house member is Lord Dagoth Voryn (Dagoth Ur's real name), the rest are cultists and beasts, attracted by the Divine Heart of Lorkhan only. The real house was destroyed millenia ago, for it's apparent betrayal.

House Dwemer - The Atheist Mechanics, also destroyed, but no-one knows how.

Minor Houses -

House Sotha - Sotha Sil's house, based at Ald Sotha, now completely destroyed somehow. Sotha Sil is the only remaining member.

House Mora - also gone, possibly via marriage into the other Houses.

[Marxist ßastard]

Vaanic~One said:

The only surviving real sixth house member is Lord Dagoth Voryn (Dagoth Ur's real name), the rest are cultists and beasts, attracted by the Divine Heart of Lorkhan only.

What about the ash vampires?

[Vaanic~One]

Marxist ßastard, on Jan 11 2006, 12:31 PM, said:

Vaanic~One said:

The only surviving real sixth house member is Lord Dagoth Voryn (Dagoth Ur's real name), the rest are cultists and beasts, attracted by the Divine Heart of Lorkhan only.

What about the ash vampires?

It's too hard to tell.

All the reports surrounding this are all wrong in some places and right in others, but we don't know which. Sometimes the Ash Vampires are recorded as House Dagoth members, sometimes they aren't mentioned at all, as a result, it's difficult to fathom what the origins of the Ash Vampires actually are, since no-one can siphon out the truth from the lies.

Either they are original 6th House members, or they are just Dagoth Ur's first set of cultists. There is no sufficient evidence to prove or falsify either claim. I just guessed that they weren't, since most reports suggest they were not with Dagoth Ur when he was corrupted, and other reports testify to the absolute destruction and subsumation of House Dagoth, save for the one member sleeping under Red Mountain, but they could be wrong, I don't know.

[Marxist ßastard]

What seems to be the only thing we do know for certain about the ash vampires is that they are unnaturally old -- IE, predating the eruption.

[theRAIDER]

From what you can gather, I tend to assume that the ash vampires are either Dagoth Ur's brothers or councilors of the fallen House Dagoth.