[Kydus134]

Hey, guys. Ok, this is my predicament. I'm right at the end of the game (before you assault the Jefferson Memorial with the Sarah and her Lyons' Pride do-gooders). Now, when I enter the Lab and walk down the stairs to talk to Elder Lyons, the game hangs! I think it is trying to load that dialog sequence between Sarah and the Elder. This doesn't occur at all. The menu turns off, and I'm just sitting there twiddling my thumbs staring at both of them. The only method that I found that works to initiate dialog with the Elder is when I have the console active and type in 'tcl'. That way I'm able to float around the cell and can start the dialog sequence with him. But, once that's out of the way, the game still hangs!

Is there some way to correct this? I have quite a few mods. Though, they haven't interfered with the game in previous saves.

Now, the only other thing that comes to mind as to why this MIGHT have screwed things up was if I had accidentally clicked on Sarah (with the console active) and typed 'resurrect' in an earlier part of the game. If that's the case, is there some in-game script that I can enter via the console to reset the Lab sequence? Or am I totally screwed?

Any help is appreciated guys!

~K

[evilneko]

The command to reset quests is resetquest
The id for American Dream is 00014E8F

Looking at the wikia The American Dream involves the stuff in Raven Rock too, so you probably won't want to reset the whole thing. Unfortunately, I don't know the stage ids for use with the setstage command.

Also, post your load order. In FOMM, right click your mod list and select export or copy to clipboard.

[Verbal Earthworm]

try "movetoqt" in the console, this will whizz you to the next quest target and (hopefully) initiate it for you (also useful for speeding your way through any quest whilst pit-stopping at the important stuff).

[Kydus134]

Thanks for responding, you guys.

Ok, let me attach the load order. It's in plain text. Never done that with FOMM before.

BTW, I have FO3 updated to 1.6 and FOMM updated to 09.1.5 and I use FOSE.

Attached File(s)

•  Load_order.txt (1.98K)
  Number of downloads: 6

[evilneko]

The only thing that jumps out at me is your fallout3.esm is not at the top. Oh, and maybe Rideable Prime. WTF? (Though, when I did this quest, I DID kinda wish that Prime moved slower -- I didn't have time to mop up after him AND keep up with him, so I missed some cool explosions and crap. I donno if I'd actually want to ride on him though, that'd just be weird, especially with my character. )

And just so others don't have to click to see the load order....

Quote

OP's Load Order:

[ ] Malos_Arena_EV.esm
[X] RobCo Certified.esp
[X] CRAFT.esm
[X] RTS.esm
[X] radio_fix.esp
[X] Armored Robes.esp
[X] MaxLevelWorkaround-HP.esp
[X] UPP - Pack 1.esp
[X] UPP - Original Perks.esp
[X] UPP - Beverage Perks.esp
[X] UPP - Quest Perks.esp
[X] UPP - Experience Perks.esp
[X] UPP - Pack 2.esp
[X] 20000 Caps.esp
[X] WastelandMastery.esp
[X] Scrapyard.esp
[X] FleshBurningPlasma.esp
[X] WeaponModKits.esp
[X] Stealthboy Recon Armor - CRAFT.esp
[ ] RRPowerArmor.esp
[X] RideableCreature.esp
[X] Bittercup is a babe.esp
[X] d0ct0r li glasses.esp
[X] YearlingsGlasses.esp
[X] CarvanTrader.esp
[X] NAPA-Sneak.esp
[X] NAPA.esp
[X] ZL-SVD.esp
[X] Portable Home Small.esp
[X] More Quantums 1.0.esp
[X] Mister Sandman Bug Fix.esp
[X] Neunen Fireaxe.esp
[X] Nuka Cola Refill Stations.esp
[X] CRAFT - Activation Perk.esp
[X] Accurate Assault Rifles 1.2.esp
[X] Remove That Glove.esp
[X] Sniper's Bliss.esp
[X] Fallout3.esm
[X] M16A1.esp
[X] DK_BulletTime.esp
[X] NightvisionGoggles(Powered).esp
[X] M203.esp
[X] CS_ LightsaberQuest.esp
[X] MFRideablePrime.esp
[X] MedicT51bRegenID.esp
[X] AbnersDrugDen.esp
[X] SniperZooming.esp
[X] NecronomiconExMortis.esp
[X] Dogmeat Leather Armor - CRAFT.esp
[X] tacticalAmmo.esp
[X] PreWar Book Titles and Perks.esp
[ ] DriveableMotorCycle.esp
[X] BB_Gun_Custom.esp
[X] The_Grand_Exchange.esp
[X] Butcher Petes Meat.esp
[X] knockdowns.esp
[X] HZ_M249.esp
[X] RadTech - Gore Mincer.esp
[X] WEAPONS.esp
[X] HoverChair 0.2.1.esp
[X] RadioToggle.esp
[X] RAINandSNOW.esp
[X] stat_change_AK-47_Assault_Rifle.esp
[X] Caravan Tracking.esp
[X] MetalArmorNoPenalty.esp
[X] HZ_USP.esp
[X] Auto RockIt Launcher.esp
[X] Grenade Launchers.esp
[X] SkillCheck.esp
[X] Another Pip-Boy Light.esp
[X] RaiderMask.esp
[X] Accessorized Helmets and Mask.esp
[X] 32pistolpower.esp
[X] Vault74.esp
[X] Banished!.esp
[X] RTS_Life_Of_Raider_Addon.esp
[X] MantisZeroSuit.esp
[X] Consistent Books.esp
[X] 999 Weight Limit.esp
[X] ACE2-1b.esp

[Verbal Earthworm]

the Fallout3.sem MUST load be loaded first (top) in your loadorder, as evilneko quite rightly pointed out.

the general rule is that all .esm plugins are loaded before all .esp plugins, with Fallout3.esm as the first (top) in your FOMM load order.

anything else will lead somewhere strange.

[Zeonic Glory]

evilneko, on Jul 9 2009, 01:08 PM, said:

I donno if I'd actually want to ride on him though, that'd just be weird, especially with my character. )

It's happened plenty of times in mecha, and it's already sort of like Illya and Berserker.

[Kydus134]

Ok, I moved the fallout3.esm back to the top and tried it out. Nope, same crap. It still hangs. I even did the resetquest 00014E8F (which worked but not the way I wanted so no good). And the movetoqt did nothing. Is it missing a line or something?

Anything else you guys?


PS Rideable Prime is pretty cool. Download it now! hehe

evilneko, on Jul 9 2009, 05:08 PM, said:

The only thing that jumps out at me is your fallout3.esm is not at the top. Oh, and maybe Rideable Prime. WTF? (Though, when I did this quest, I DID kinda wish that Prime moved slower -- I didn't have time to mop up after him AND keep up with him, so I missed some cool explosions and crap. I donno if I'd actually want to ride on him though, that'd just be weird, especially with my character. )

And just so others don't have to click to see the load order....

Quote

OP's Load Order:

[ ] Malos_Arena_EV.esm
[X] RobCo Certified.esp
[X] CRAFT.esm
[X] RTS.esm
[X] radio_fix.esp
[X] Armored Robes.esp
[X] MaxLevelWorkaround-HP.esp
[X] UPP - Pack 1.esp
[X] UPP - Original Perks.esp
[X] UPP - Beverage Perks.esp
[X] UPP - Quest Perks.esp
[X] UPP - Experience Perks.esp
[X] UPP - Pack 2.esp
[X] 20000 Caps.esp
[X] WastelandMastery.esp
[X] Scrapyard.esp
[X] FleshBurningPlasma.esp
[X] WeaponModKits.esp
[X] Stealthboy Recon Armor - CRAFT.esp
[ ] RRPowerArmor.esp
[X] RideableCreature.esp
[X] Bittercup is a babe.esp
[X] d0ct0r li glasses.esp
[X] YearlingsGlasses.esp
[X] CarvanTrader.esp
[X] NAPA-Sneak.esp
[X] NAPA.esp
[X] ZL-SVD.esp
[X] Portable Home Small.esp
[X] More Quantums 1.0.esp
[X] Mister Sandman Bug Fix.esp
[X] Neunen Fireaxe.esp
[X] Nuka Cola Refill Stations.esp
[X] CRAFT - Activation Perk.esp
[X] Accurate Assault Rifles 1.2.esp
[X] Remove That Glove.esp
[X] Sniper's Bliss.esp
[X] Fallout3.esm
[X] M16A1.esp
[X] DK_BulletTime.esp
[X] NightvisionGoggles(Powered).esp
[X] M203.esp
[X] CS_ LightsaberQuest.esp
[X] MFRideablePrime.esp
[X] MedicT51bRegenID.esp
[X] AbnersDrugDen.esp
[X] SniperZooming.esp
[X] NecronomiconExMortis.esp
[X] Dogmeat Leather Armor - CRAFT.esp
[X] tacticalAmmo.esp
[X] PreWar Book Titles and Perks.esp
[ ] DriveableMotorCycle.esp
[X] BB_Gun_Custom.esp
[X] The_Grand_Exchange.esp
[X] Butcher Petes Meat.esp
[X] knockdowns.esp
[X] HZ_M249.esp
[X] RadTech - Gore Mincer.esp
[X] WEAPONS.esp
[X] HoverChair 0.2.1.esp
[X] RadioToggle.esp
[X] RAINandSNOW.esp
[X] stat_change_AK-47_Assault_Rifle.esp
[X] Caravan Tracking.esp
[X] MetalArmorNoPenalty.esp
[X] HZ_USP.esp
[X] Auto RockIt Launcher.esp
[X] Grenade Launchers.esp
[X] SkillCheck.esp
[X] Another Pip-Boy Light.esp
[X] RaiderMask.esp
[X] Accessorized Helmets and Mask.esp
[X] 32pistolpower.esp
[X] Vault74.esp
[X] Banished!.esp
[X] RTS_Life_Of_Raider_Addon.esp
[X] MantisZeroSuit.esp
[X] Consistent Books.esp
[X] 999 Weight Limit.esp
[X] ACE2-1b.esp

[evilneko]

If you have 1.6, the radio_fix is unnecessary.

After some thought, I'd say try turning off Rideable Prime and that rain and snow mod. Another thought... Rideable Prime and Rideable Creatures may be conflicting, assuming the Prime one's not just a plugin for Rideable Creatures.

I see you have RobCo Certified... do you have any of your robot followers with you? If so, ditch them somewhere.

[Kydus134]

I went back to Raven Rock and restarted the "American Dream" quest. The first time around, I grabbed the FEV virus BUT I did not make the Eden self-destruct. This time around I did. I went back to the Citadel to talk to the Elder and same crap happened. I'm starting to think that Sarah is the problem since her dialog is necessary for this end mission to work.

Fortunately, I have a previous save BEFORE I met up with Eden. I'm gonna try that route again and see what happens. If I still get the same result, I'm gonna try it your way, evilneko.

So far, Rideable Prime and Creatures hasn't caused me any issues. But, let me continue my "experiments". I really don't want to disable the Rain and Snow mod 'cause it's really nice. However, in one previous test, I did notice that if you do decide to nuke Megaton, you don't see the mushroom cloud. So, that was weird. I know what you're thinking: TOO MANY DAMN VARIABLES HERE! LOL

That's why I keep saying, FOMM needs a MOD CONFLICT DECTECTOR like in Oblivion.

I'll keep you guys updated.


~K

PS Yeah, I have some robots but they're not following me.

evilneko, on Jul 11 2009, 07:42 PM, said:

If you have 1.6, the radio_fix is unnecessary.

After some thought, I'd say try turning off Rideable Prime and that rain and snow mod. Another thought... Rideable Prime and Rideable Creatures may be conflicting, assuming the Prime one's not just a plugin for Rideable Creatures.

I see you have RobCo Certified... do you have any of your robot followers with you? If so, ditch them somewhere.